following the herd or how you all 'think' I should run my business LOL which is hilarious to me. Why is it every word out of my mouth is judging 'other girls' and the entire community. Since when is 'my' word, everyone's word. Don't think so but nice try lol. And please, I'm judged DAILY on here for a gazillion things, but you don't see me crying about it. Relax. You ALL judge every single damn day, it's no different and neither am I. You just need a target to play your lil game on here. Without a target you're lost lil pups. So target away...I'm game.
And for the record, I could give two craps who gives you OTC time or how you get it. Great for you, great for her, great for everyone who does it, I honestly don't care. Doesn't involve me and never will. Only the gentlemen I book will ever know what really goes on as far as 'time' with me. It's no one else's business quite honestly, especially anyone's on here. And I'll keep it that way thanks.
So some of you want to negotiate and I find that totally acceptable. Here's the thing for those of you who used the car sales example. The dealership knows there will be haggling and sets the price up to counter that.
So ladies jack it up before you jack it off!!!! Have your real price hidden somewhere in there so the tricks think they get a bargain.
Or, renegotiate and reduce the time or services commensurate with the lowball offer. Two can play at this game. Soon there will be the drugged out hookers that most of you hagglers will be left with. And please, stay there.
Better question for you...why do some gals think that prices should be commensurate with what a john makes?
Riddle me that CatWoman
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
So some of you want to negotiate and I find that totally acceptable. Here's the thing for those of you who used the car sales example. The dealership knows there will be haggling and sets the price up to counter that.
So ladies jack it up before you jack it off!!!! Have your real price hidden somewhere in there so the tricks think they get a bargain.
Or, renegotiate and reduce the time or services commensurate with the lowball offer. Two can play at this game. Soon there will be the drugged out hookers that most of you hagglers will be left with. And please, stay there.
Well...actually changing them up a tad and just showing huge losses. That would seem to be a better option when negotiating.
I also drive in my '93 Subaru with 220,000 miles and bald tires. I point out the bald tires and ask if she's also bald. That's important...especially in the negotiation process.
It's all in the presentation. I also show her on google maps where I claim to live...usually near an entrance ramp of an expressway. Saves on rent too.
I see TER is now taking bitcoins. Things must be tough out there. Are they going to pay Miss TER April in bitcoins now?
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
But I am sure most ladies have no idea what their mongers make, unless the guy is trying to impress them and makes a big show of it.
That may be how you feel...as well as some percentage of others out there.
But in truth (+hbyst) most gals have no issues with guys working the numbers. I'm not suggesting a one hour deal (although many dudes will negotiate that as well), but for those 1k gigs most gals have NO problem in working a deal.
Or I guess everyone here lies over and over and that they all pay sticker no matter what LOL
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
The donation in the envelop is what she wants and that the guy is clean and not a douche bag.
All that fucking posturing with what they make just makes them look desperate and a prize loser.
Drop the cash in the envelop, do your thing, and get out till the next time. See, very freaking simple and uncomplicated.
Geezk that's quite the statement. Anyhow, I'm Italian, not crazy. Hell if Nick was really married to one, he should at least have a lil clue about that, but maybe not. They didn't stay together obviously LOL.
Geezk that's quite the statement. Anyhow, I'm Italian, not crazy. Hell if Nick was really married to one, he should at least have a lil clue about that, but maybe not. They didn't stay together obviously LOL.
Jack perhaps? Another pleasant one. Good gracious, bring it on LOL.
Scary scary men on here. Good lord. 95 reviews huh. Mmm hmmm. I think I did just get scared LOL. Like for real. Hey at least you're posting with your real handle. I give you kudos for that. But I won't dare look to see who you've seen.
Take a look. I've seen one for a night who made more that night than you make in a month.
Posted By: TaylorSteele
Jack perhaps? Another pleasant one. Good gracious, bring it on LOL.
Scary scary men on here. Good lord. 95 reviews huh. Mmm hmmm. I think I did just get scared LOL. Like for real. Hey at least you're posting with your real handle. I give you kudos for that. But I won't dare look to see who you've seen.
once or twice a month. I'm certain you are capable of doing the math since you took the time to check my stupid website as it is. In any event, I still won't look. Not interested. And not sure I understand your point exactly...care to explain?
Well nevermind actually. But know that I am happy for you and your exuberant spending habits. Kudos again.
Posted By: USGrantlover
Take a look. I've seen one for a night who made more that night than you make in a month
Well, lets put it this way. You questioned the quality of the ladies I've seen. Many of whom look at this board. So you've certainly impressed them. I thought maybe you'd follow up and take a look at who've I've seen after impugning them. Guess not. I'm shocked.
Second, I've not looked at your website but I DID have you marked on my p411 as a NYC "fav" which is how I file ladies away to see at some point. You've been removed so I don't need to look at your website.
Last, I don't doubt you only do this once or twice a month. You're always here making a fool of yourself so I tend to believe that you don't have any clients. To boot, your demeanor is arrogant, snarky and offensive to say the least. That's your call, but certainly an interesting marketing concept.
So, in summary, you've lost a potential client. Especially when you question my spending habits. Remember, just because you're broke, doesn't mean that what I spend here has any relevance to my overall net worth/cash flow. It doesn't.
Its pretty sharp of you to insult me here. Even wiser to take a shot at the women I've seen. Now, since we both know you took a look at them, feel free to opine. Have a great week sitting at home, sniping at former potential clients on TER and eating bon bons.
Posted By: TaylorSteele
once or twice a month. I'm certain you are capable of doing the math since you took the time to check my stupid website as it is. In any event, I still won't look. Not interested. And not sure I understand your point exactly...care to explain?
Well nevermind actually. But know that I am happy for you and your exuberant spending habits. Kudos again.
Posted By: USGrantlover
Take a look. I've seen one for a night who made more that night than you make in a month.
Now brace yourself for a lecture on how she would never have seen you anyway simply because you post on this board. Which raises the question, if she scorns any guy who posts here, why does she come here at all? To wallow with the peasants, presumably. PS: I haven't seen her "stupid website" either, but don't doubt she describes it accurately.
I'm not a marketing expert but I'm not sure her tact is wise. But since she only "needs" to work once or twice a month HAHA God bless her.
Posted By: inicky46
Now brace yourself for a lecture on how she would never have seen you anyway simply because you post on this board. Which raises the question, if she scorns any guy who posts here, why does she come here at all? To wallow with the peasants, presumably. PS: I haven't seen her "stupid website" either, but don't doubt she describes it accurately.
First off I never even HEARD of who you were until yesterday. Seriously lol. Secondly, I have no idea who you have seen nor have I EVER offended anyone you have seen because I don't know who they are. I have NO IDEA who YOU are. Make sense? Either you are saying stuff that is way over my head and I completely missed somewhere or are pulling stuff out of your ass for the sake of it. Either way, I honestly have no idea who or what you are talking about. Honestly. And I am shaking my head. Yet again.
As many state that they 'don't' judge on here, I think it's fair to say that this is just one post that is proof that there is plenty of judging going on by everyone. You don't know anything about me but you have insulted me like many do here in abundance. It's fine, but I will say this, whatever you are so upset about, with me as your target, understand wholeheartedly that I have this lil thing against men who are verbally abusive. I know. Silly me. So, I guess it's a good thing you took me off your list then. I have no problem with that whatsoever. Whoever you are. You seem to be doing ok without seeing me as many others on here especially, so not sure why the attack quite honestly. Hate much? WOW. And this is why I don't see GD posters.
I guess I was right unfortunately when I said you were out for blood. I think I'll be leaving now. Ouch. Oh and thanks for your support. And I will say it...GEEEZK.
If you check back carefully, I said I had Italian relatives by marriage. I never said I was married to an Italian. You are very creative in finding new ways to make incorrect assumptions and make an ass of yourself. Way to go! You officially have no, repeat no, hope of ever approaching The Mendoza Line
"Drop the cash in the envelop, do your thing, and get out till the next time. See, very freaking simple and uncomplicated"
Great advice, but that's largely assuming the guy has any interest seeing you again. Just give a good incentive for repeat visitors (clients that you like) so he doesn't stray off to a new girl in town. Do you think you're the only girl your regulars see? Why do you think guys hobby to begin with?
Don't you think that you can actually influence a client to see you more by giving him an incentive to see YOU instead of the other girls in town? Hobby money will be spent on someone either way.
In fact, a girl did offer me just that, 2 hours for $700 when her normal one hour rate at the time was $700. She claims she likes seeing me cuz I'm fun to spend time with, very laid back, and don't work her to death by drilling her into the mattress (your choice of words not mie).
Now, 2 hours for the price of 1, isn't a typical discount by any means. I think it's extremely generous of her however way I slice it. I see her almost every time I'm in her town. Too good of a deal to pass up.
Each hooker has her ways of keeping clients and it does not all add up to less money to be drilled for the duration. It depends on what type of guy you are dealing with and his particular wants. A good hooker finds out what that is and cashes in on it.
It amounts to what she can deal with and that is different for hookers. Some hookers are just that good to have guys see her once a week for years without lowering her price. She just found out what it is he needs to keep him coming back. And it is NOT all about how many pops he can get, or a discount.
someone she doesn't want to see again. She'd only give it to someone she's comfortable with.
But you need to make up your mind, seems like. First you said "So some of you want to negotiate and I find that totally acceptable." Then you claim that guys negotiating are ass wipes or something like ass wipes.
I'm trying to figure out what the point of your post is? Did you post just to gripe, whine, and hurl insults at those disagreeing with you or did you just want to vent about your clients who aren't taking care of you well
I do find negotiating acceptable. I will renegotiate meaning less time or less services if a guy wants to nickel and dime me. Some ladies hate even the asking. I don't, I renegotiate. How do you not get that?
Not all ladies have to discount their fee to keep long standing clients. Some find other ways to accommodate them and still keep the price point they need or want.
My clients take very good care of me as do I them. They are just not cheap ass fucks that expect way more for way less
I never negotiate when girl is charging only $300-$400 if I'm only booking an hour or two. I was referring to pricier and extended sessions.
There was this high priced girl who was asking for a $10k for an overnight. Do you really feel I should just "pay up, do my thing" and stack $10k into a big fat envelope like a chump?
How about a case when a girls 24 hour rate is $5k, and I ask if that price is flexible, she refuses to be flexible with her 24hr price but then she offers me $10k for a week. Either her math skills are a bit lacking or she wanted me to book her longer. Either that she liked me enough to want to spend a week with me while still getting paid for the month. What girl wouldn't like me anyway?
I hardly think that guys negotiating prices that fall in that price range is considered being a "cheap ass fuck". A girl would be losing a great deal of money being a "stiff ass fuck" by brushing off potential clients who aren't stupid enough to plunk down any random number that a girl comes up with.
doughnuts and get used to reruns of oprah while they get fatter sitting on their sloppy asses waitin for the phone to ring with those new rates .. lol
great advice , hey some should try it out and come back next week and let us all know how it went .
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
So some of you want to negotiate and I find that totally acceptable. Here's the thing for those of you who used the car sales example. The dealership knows there will be haggling and sets the price up to counter that.
So ladies jack it up before you jack it off!!!! Have your real price hidden somewhere in there so the tricks think they get a bargain.
Or, renegotiate and reduce the time or services commensurate with the lowball offer. Two can play at this game. Soon there will be the drugged out hookers that most of you hagglers will be left with. And please, stay there.
Can you just fuck off please? BTW, I would not have posted this unless it was proven. Works like a fucking charm. Gets rid of the losers and keeps the decent guys.
You did claim to be in the 1% of the general population.
Krispy Kreme's aren't your friend LOL
Oh...how can you prove that you're really in that 1%. Were you part of that whole 1% thing a few years ago? Maybe some pics out there? How's your portfolio doing?
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
Can you just fuck off please? BTW, I would not have posted this unless it was proven. Works like a fucking charm. Gets rid of the losers and keeps the decent guys.
You, this board? Don't need to. Like some of the guys here boast they are hot and gym trained. Once I see their images up here, you get mine. And don't even try the "we pay so you produce" I am not getting paid to post so, moot point.
Now you can tell me why YOU think you're in the Top 1% of the general population.
You seemed to allude that you're hot...so hot that fire alarms go off. Just curious why you would think that. Most folks are in that middle part of the bell shaped curve. Or are you just saying that 'cause you can LO
I never said hot I said in the top 1% of the body spectrum and I explained it is a fitness model type not a vicky secret most dudes lust after. More niche than mainstream. And for what it is worth, I am going on what is said to me NOT what I think. I am like millions of others, always wanting to improve what I have got.
So many would classify fitness model as "athletic" here on TER. So if you're really not a BBW then I guess you should classify yourself as thin. Most of the fitness models (athletic) are pretty heavy from the pics they've shared here.
Why would you think I'm the shorter one? I'd like some positive feedback as BiB and I are planning an Aldo photoshoot next week. Would you like to join us? Might be fun
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
I never said hot I said in the top 1% of the body spectrum and I explained it is a fitness model type not a vicky secret most dudes lust after. More niche than mainstream. And for what it is worth, I am going on what is said to me NOT what I think. I am like millions of others, always wanting to improve what I have got.
Fitness models heavy? Well no hope here. Don't know if this helps but BMI 20 and body fat 15%, 5' 8". Most def height weight proportionate and a size 4. But there will be those fat ass mongers who would slam that as not attractive. Each to their own.
The rest of the time I'm here playing CPA...a mild mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper.
And reread my post...I was talking about the TER "athletic" definition which the boys also call "fitness models". Mainly due to a gal posting on her site that she's a fitness model. I'm sure you've seen those.
The only fitness many of them do is elbow exercises.
Sorry...but you probably also know I like the little gals. 5'8" is about 8" taller than I like them. But others like your size. And obviously I would need to see a picture (untouched) to determine if you're attractive. But I know that isn't forthcoming. So to throw out numbers is simply a wasted effort (and self-serving).
So why am I the shorter one?
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
Fitness models heavy? Well no hope here. Don't know if this helps but BMI 20 and body fat 15%, 5' 8". Most def height weight proportionate and a size 4. But there will be those fat ass mongers who would slam that as not attractive. Each to their own.
They just don't push my buttons. I like a big gal, in stilettos. I don't give a shit if she's taller than me. And she'd damn well better not take those shoes off
Which makes me so happy to have the internet. Now when I buy a car I've done all my calculations, new car price paid by others and trade in value. I go to the dealer and don't even bother with the sales persons in a typical way. I show them the figures, ask them what their bullshit destination charges and lot fees (or whatever that bullshit is called), rip a check for the difference in price from the trade in and say take it or leave it. Car salesmen are the lowest forms of scum in a community, I don't give them the chance anymore.
I like my providers to have a set price, and that's exactly what's in the envelope. The business is over in seconds and now let's get into the fun. I never have and never will see a provider a second time if she up sells me, conversely I don't attempt to negotiate. She has already posted what her time is worth, it's a rather simple arrangement.
It would be advantageous for her to give some incentive or reward for being her regular. What incentive would I have to see HER instead of the dozens and dozens of other girls in town unless I'm getting a better deal?
Taylor mentioned something about safety, but that has not deterred most mongers from seeing new girls on a regular basis. In fact, some of us get our kicks from seeing new girls and seeing the same old same old girl can become boring. That's one of the main reasons men hobby in the first place.
Therefore a girl who is savvy with her business would offer a deal (or any kind of incentive) so that I'm more inclined to see her instead of the other girls... unless she's constantly fully booked at the price she wants that she doesn't ever need to give anyone any incentives but how may girls can command this perfect efficiency of price/volume during all seasons on a consistent basis?
Don't think so. Some ladies just don't get hot and bothered by a dude who wants a discount to drill her fine ass into the mattress for the duration. If he treated her more like a human being and less like a fuck doll. I can see her giving him some incentive after he proved to be a constant reg. Not after seeing her twice. And if she was worked over, not a snowballs chance in hell. Unless she wanted that
Dear Jesus (see, it's not really CPA)...I thought they all just loved to be with these guys for free.
There are a few women who like greek. Others charge extra.
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
Don't think so. Some ladies just don't get hot and bothered by a dude who wants a discount to drill her fine ass into the mattress for the duration. If he treated her more like a human being and less like a fuck doll. I can see her giving him some incentive after he proved to be a constant reg. Not after seeing her twice. And if she was worked over, not a snowballs chance in hell. Unless she wanted that.
I don't look at them that way, not sure why you do. Seems like you and BeautyWithOutBrains can't come to terms with the fact that the smart ones DO negotiate, and do so regularly without playing stupid games by pretending to jack up their rates and potentially driving a client away.
Now unlike you, I won't besmirch the ones that won't negotiate. It's their bod, their rules.
But the ones who understand profit & loss, as apparently you DON'T, understand how lessening their fee at times is advantageous to their financial well being.
Get back to me when you have a clue what any of the above means sweetie. Or is it "courtesan?" LOL
other guys here how giving away 'free' time and negotiation 'helps' any ladies business. That's the biggest crock of shit I have ever heard. Keep trying though, ladies here buy that bit every day. I don't buy it and never have, not from day one. And I've been confronted a bunch of times about it....to become part of the 'circle'. What are ya gonna pass her around to all your buddies after she passes 'go' with the first one. No thanks. I know that's what this whole thing is about...it's like a recycled passing around of the same people. I have zero interest in playing this game like that and that's exactly what it's about and you know it. You all just don't like it when someone you 'try' to get in that circle doesn't wanna be there...rejection is an ugly thing with Johns, that's for sure.
Your/You're is one of his favorite gripes, and you just gave her a pass on it. In your defense, it was only one of several spelling and grammatical errors on her part, but still, if you are going to be a pedantic putz, be all you can be. lol
What works for you is fine. But why do you need to judge what other gals are comfortable with? By your standard, OTC time is some kind of invasion of her turf. But don't forget she's the one who gets to decide. And, in my experience, lots of them decide having dinner with me OTC would be a lot of fun. Or adding on to a session and not expecting (or even wanting) extra compensation, is really OK. I'd certainly never ask for it but won't turn it down when it's offered. And it's offered a lot. Yes, I am just that good. Not that you'll ever get a chance to find out, lol!
following the herd or how you all 'think' I should run my business LOL which is hilarious to me. Why is it every word out of my mouth is judging 'other girls' and the entire community. Since when is 'my' word, everyone's word. Don't think so but nice try lol. And please, I'm judged DAILY on here for a gazillion things, but you don't see me crying about it. Relax. You ALL judge every single damn day, it's no different and neither am I. You just need a target to play your lil game on here. Without a target you're lost lil pups. So target away...I'm game.
And for the record, I could give two craps who gives you OTC time or how you get it. Great for you, great for her, great for everyone who does it, I honestly don't care. Doesn't involve me and never will. Only the gentlemen I book will ever know what really goes on as far as 'time' with me. It's no one else's business quite honestly, especially anyone's on here. And I'll keep it that way thanks.
theyre your competition further what "goes on with you" is not a secret and should be in the reviews . as far as judging you no one is however when so many disagree you must be wrong . food for thought doubt youll bite or get it at all .
Posted By: TaylorSteele
following the herd or how you all 'think' I should run my business LOL which is hilarious to me. Why is it every word out of my mouth is judging 'other girls' and the entire community. Since when is 'my' word, everyone's word. Don't think so but nice try lol. And please, I'm judged DAILY on here for a gazillion things, but you don't see me crying about it. Relax. You ALL judge every single damn day, it's no different and neither am I. You just need a target to play your lil game on here. Without a target you're lost lil pups. So target away...I'm game.
And for the record, I could give two craps who gives you OTC time or how you get it. Great for you, great for her, great for everyone who does it, I honestly don't care. Doesn't involve me and never will. Only the gentlemen I book will ever know what really goes on as far as 'time' with me. It's no one else's business quite honestly, especially anyone's on here. And I'll keep it that way thanks.
I'm not judging her for the way she runs her business. That's her right, even if it seems to make no sense on the surface. I judge her for how she judges what others do. So, no, honey, you do seem to give more than "two craps" about what everyone says. Get over it. And it would be refreshing if you'd stop tallking out of both sides of your mouth.
right............then I guess there's really nothing left to discuss, now is there. Enjoy, it is beautiful outside today. Just needs to warm up a tad. Feel the sun on your faces and smile.
If reviews are for the first time you see a provider - how on earth can you honestly conclude WHAT the provider ordinarily does in a session from a single snap shot with regards to time or anything else.
All you can realistically expect from a review (and maybe not even that..) are the answers to two questions - does she look like the pictures? Is she a fun time? So - a providers session policy - to the extent she has one is really not something a TER review can cover. The providers I have seen have a goal to provide a satisfying session - which is the purpose of the activity.
Just as a side note - the number of swinging d*cks who post which agree or disagree with you is not really relevant to whether something is true or not. Consensus reality is a bizarre concept better suited to Stalinist Lysenko-ism (google it.... sigh....) and its' illusions than that of a free society
In all the time I have been doing this 2 guys asked for a discount and they got it......but I reduced the time commensurate with said discount. I don't deal with cheap ass tricks.
So shove your economics for hookers 101 up where the sun don't shine. I charge what I charge and if a guy can't afford it, I politely ask him to go somewhere else. My regs have no issue paying said rate.
The only hobbyists I drive away are the ones I don't want to see so it is a win, win.
For me it's easy. My ATF isn't getting much Business these days from her other Regs. So I can pretty much name my price when I see her. I do help her out when she needs Money. So it all evens out in the long run.
I negotiate services/special requests, dress/costuming, lunch, appointment time and place any time I set up an appointment. I research and do my due diligence on menu pricing. The better I know the provider - the better terms I get; usually she'll throw in some additional time, service, whatever. Does this mean I treat the lady like I was buying a used Subaru - Hell No!
But to say that there should be no negotiation is to simply ignore reality. Any time you discuss a service with your lawyer, plumber, provider or doctor, you are negotiating - defining the terms and conditions is negotiating.
Now - if you have the sense God gave a turnip, you don't play hard ball with your provider (or your urologist); at some point, she WILL have your testicles in her hands - and you really don't want her thinking unkind thoughts at that time
So some of you want to negotiate and I find that totally acceptable. Here's the thing for those of you who used the car sales example. The dealership knows there will be haggling and sets the price up to counter that.
So ladies jack it up before you jack it off!!!! Have your real price hidden somewhere in there so the tricks think they get a bargain.
Or, renegotiate and reduce the time or services commensurate with the lowball offer. Two can play at this game. Soon there will be the drugged out hookers that most of you hagglers will be left with. And please, stay there.
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) most gals have no issues with guys working the numbers. I'm not suggesting a one hour deal (although many dudes will negotiate that as well), but for those 1k gigs most gals have NO problem in working a deal. 
