i've noticed quite a few ads on BP or CL offering hj or bj meetings only for 15 minutes.  is there a big market for this??

I'm sure there is a big market for a quickie, the question is it worth it for a quality provider to offer such a short time. It means they have to see more clients.

for two people to find each other, and then have time to do the deed.

I was just about to post a thread on this, thanks. What is the point of a 15 minute meeting, looking for answers from both sides of the table.

Another way for a girl to make quick cash, real fast. LOL

With an increasing number of providers going to 2, 3 or even 4 hour minimums; a certain proportion of current hobbyists will find themselves iced out of that market.

They could cut their hobbying in half in order to do those longer dates ... OR ... they could triple or quadruple their hobbying with the 15-30 minute drive-byes.

The technique of minimum bookings is likely intended to grab as much money as possible from a hobbyist who will likely only be going to the next girl because of the drive for variety; but that will only work for a portion of hobbyists who are either extremely well heeled or able to postpone gratification. Others will simply look at a beginning price tag of $$$$ or nearly that and say "no way."

So as more providers start requiring session minimums that exceed a week of take home pay for the average guy; you will see an increasing migration to the BP and CL providers offering shorter sessions.

So I think this is a development that may precede a market correction.

And we’ve heard this many times. Of course those men who could afford Ferraris before the economy tanked can still do so now and many of them visit with hourly providers with a good sense of marketing. But the average Joe can't always see hourly ladies, so they see reputable TER ladies who offer 15 or 30 minutes “blow and go” / “French sessions”. These ladies need the business so if works for both parties. And I don’t think there are a ton of ladies going to 2- 3- or 4-hour minimums, but the men who used to be able to afford 1 hour meetings can’t as much now or are really picky about who they give their hard earned money. And most likely they will not give it to the lady who is offering French specials because it is a turn off and screams "cheap hooker". Once you turn to a cheap lady, it's hard to earn the respect back from those who can afford to hobby. So then these ladies have to keep doing more short sessions. And these guys still want to get off, so they go for shorter meetings or they save their money and see hourly providers.

What I find interesting is that just even a couple of years ago, people on this board snickered at CL/BP providers about the ads, etc. But now you see TER ladies posting pussy pictures and short sessions. I guess those who wanted to think they were better than THOSE other people really aren’t better after all.

I'm grateful to a client who told me a year ago "never offer 30 minute sessions or specials. Once you do that the men who can afford $300+ rates will think you are not worth $300+ rates and will never pay you that again." Instead of offering sessions that scream "sex only", up your marketing game or tour new cities regularly to keep interest. You don't have to resort to shorter meetings. If anything, give more time for the hour rate. Short sessions and pussy pictures are just no good.

.02 cents.

Hmmm well I think its convenient for both parties even though it was something I never offered. For the man who is busy and just needs a "quick release" doesnt really want to have to pay for hour minimum or 30 min. You just need a quick orgasm and away you go.

Now the companion side? Think of it like the doctors office if anyone is familiar with the "15 minute rule". Doctors commonly use this in private practice to get the patient in and out of the doctors office in less than 15 minutes. Why? They can charge 4 patients in an hour rather than spending 30 minutes with each and only charging for 2. I think, and again this is my opinion, if a lady is charging say 125 bucks for 15 mins and her hourly rate is 300 then she could have 4 15 mins sessions and make more than her hourly rate, that is of course if she was doing them back to back.

Im neutral on this subject it was never something that interested me but different strokes for different folks.

...make your money girl even you have to do a shorter session. Ultimately, when it comes down to it, it's all about survival for you and yours.

I offer 15 minute sessions (bj only) and half hour sessions plus my other sessions, but in no way are my smaller sessions being offered so I can run more clients through quicker!  My shorter sessions are to meet the needs of those clients, who have needs they are not getting met elsewhere, but CANNOT get away from work or their SO's without arousing anyone's suspicions and getting into big trouble!  I do not get clients making these types of appointments very often, but when I do, I have been told by many of them, that they had appreciated me offering them and that they would have loved to see me for a full session, but they could only sneak away for a short period.  The shorter sessions had at least satisfied their pressing needs.  I normally don't have many short sessions, but the ones that I did have, the client had usually been a married businessman with a family.    I will point out though, that everyone who comes and sees me, always, no matter how long of a session, does get my full attention from me, my best at how I am no matter what amount of time they schedule with me,  no clock watching (I have never needed to say - times up, go) and GFE attitude and kissing/hugs, every time!  I am not and never will be an assembly line though!  Others may operate that way, but not me.  I prefer to be there for those that need me, if I am able to, but I don't feel I can do that if I am worn out, used up, tired or hurting, So I set limits on how many gentleman I will see in a 24 hour period and have stuck to it, turning down many on lots of occasions.  For those who want to be rude and cause trouble by making assumptions on what my limits are (cause I already know there are many troublemakers on this board),  I will save you the trouble.... my limit is four in a 24 hour period.  Being there for men, who don't have anyone else to be there for them, (even those who have SO's)  in many different ways, which for many go way beyond sex, is my reason for being in this biz.   Sure the money is nice, but it is not my driving force.  That is why I offer shorter sessions and lower rates and always will!  I am sure there are many providers with my attitude too!

So....

Please don't be so quick to judge and assume!  

Take a moment and think sometimes about what if.......?  What if you were in the same type of situation as some of these men are where you were needing a shorter session for whatever reason?  Who would you go to if you had a pressing need and only a short time to escape without getting into trouble with someone important in your life and there weren't any quality providers out there offering them.  What would you do then?    Hmmmm....?


Hugs,

LL

Well while I love meeting the needs of most men out there, it's not mine concern to be concerned with their finances. It is not my concern to be concerned with whether or not they can hobby. I'm not here for every joe blow anyway, but if that's what you want, then go for it.

In the long run, you will make more if you ditch the $150 session, especially since you "do not get clients making these types of appointments very often". If you don't, then why keep the session? When you look at your site, you immediately turn off those who have money and look down upon shorter sessions. If you don't offer them that often anyway, why would you taint yourself as "cheap", since you don't offer them often, of course?

Or if you get these requests often and it's part of your business model, then don't fake the funk, do what you've got to do...if that's what you need to do to survive.

Just think about it.

I know no one will believe this, but I get awesome clients!  I am not tainted "cheap"!   I, on most days, meet my limit of clients, that I have set and have turned down many!  I really could care less about make tons of money!  I really do care and worry about my clients and consider them friends, but we don't let things go past that client/friend level.  I am, what many of my clients have called "a rarity", for being a provider.   I survive just fine, even though there have been some times where I went through some dry streaks (who hasn't), but I always recover and biz gets back to it's normal busy level for me.  I just don't care about making a lot of money!  I care about my clients more!  That is who I am!  And if you ask the men who have seen me, who repeatedly come and see me and who call me trying to see me, they will all say the same thing.....I am not considered to be "cheap" and I am a caring and wonderful lady, person and provider!  I also am honest and do not fib!

In fact, I already posted on my national board just this afternoon that I was taking 2 weeks off on Saturday, to give myself a short break after 2 years of being available for my clients.  Even I need a break and I am doing well enough to be able to do it.

Hugs,

LL

men with sence of entitlement to get laid can be rather annoying.

Here is my answer to requests for short dates: "Can't afford to pay someone to suck and fuck - do your wife"

...EXACTLY!

I think the more classy the lady, they wouldn't offer the 60 dollar 15 minute special. That's just my opinion. But everyone is different.

you have to charge and make such big money from these men and get plenty of business with these high rates, (at least that is what you are trying to make everyone on this board believe) why the hell are you both hiding behind aliases and I am here in my own ID, not hiding one bit??  I am not ashamed of anything, are you two???


Hmmmmm....

you as "cheap" (not saying you are) if you don't NEED them?

I'm not passing any judgment on you, sweetie. Do what works best for you. But I was just wondering why you would offer the sessions knowing it makes you seem like a streetwalker to certain men if you don't NEED to offer those sessions? If you don't need shorter sessions, for marketing purposes, it would make sense to not offer them as they make you seem "cheap" to guys with money. That's all I was wondering. And your answer was because you want to spread your love to as many men as you can as your escort calling. Great. I just asked a question, Ms. LadeeLilly. Really, just do you, as it's not a big deal to me either way.

*Using an alias because I pay for my FULL VIP membership and I’m getting my money’s worth.

cheap anyway.  I offer shorter sessions, yes, but I still charge nice rates for all my sessions, not what could be described as cheap rates at all!  

Wait!..... Why am I bothering to point out all this to you?  I do great no matter what and I have no need to justify myself to you or anyone.  I was just in a writing, posting mood and got lost in it.

Take care ladies and good luck to you!

Hugs,

LL

LMAO!!! Its funny you should say that Kurt, b/c in NY (I don't know of other places) they have what's called "Fast Houses" in which gentlemen to to a regular location & there are dozens of ladies, but they don't have the option to choose which one they want; its whomever is next & it is only for 15min...lol...So you're not too far off with that thought

Dear Ava:
I find you attractive and intelligent with respect to the discourse that you provide on the boards. With that said with respect to the quickie, this is certainly not the venue because this would be a place where a man would look for a certain grade and quality of woman.  Although you would be right with respect to the quantity of people she would be able to see, but I have to believe the experience for you is also social as well as sexual. Henceforth, this would be an option that you would consider unless the bottom fell out of the market. I know it is not the best of times economically but I know the majority of providers that interact with us on the boards would not gravitate towards that .

What are you possibly going to get in 15min nothing worthwhile?IMO every lady advertises what is best for her,nut 15min is not going to get it for me!I wonder what clientele is attracted to 15 min deal.Hey,whatever floats your boat!

I dont know why 15 mins come on...thats no time at all. I will see a small select few long time visitors for 30 minutes..during their LUNCH BREAKS..so they get dessert & I send them back to work with a nice lunch...
I am after all a Real GFE

I worked or rather had fun 2 1/2 hours, plus had a very nice expensive dinner yesterday.  Total bring home was $$$$$$.1  How many clients did I see?  Just 2 of my long time awesome regulars.  Is this what my average day can be like?  Yes!  Also I have been a "Paid" VIP on this site and all the other sites I belong to since I got my first reviews on them.  I have a college degree, which I had received with "High Honors".  I had a 3.8 GPA.  I was born with thing inside me called a "Big Heart".   Like I said I get awesome clients.  I only get a 15 minute date request maybe once a week and sure it is not enough to really be bothering advertising 15 minute specials, but for that one person who needed that once week 15 minute visit with me, (not because he was low on funds), but because it was the only amount of time he could sneak away to get some relief, that he was not getting from home, that was more than saying "HI" to his hand!!!!  Why is it so hard for any of you to understand that?  It is not the money for me or the quality of clients I get!  It is the amount of time they can get away!  I don't get low quality clients and will not see low quality clients!  I am quality!  It is just that I am a quality escort that happens to care a lot and that I happen to care more than I have a need to demand that everyone see me for a hour!!  Get it now??

Did you all know that a Big Heart will actually get you further in life than a big wallet?  

Hugs,

LL

You're right LL, its all about customer service.

I was referring to the ladies that have ads on certain sites not you in particular.They offer 15min & 30min and by looking at the ads & pics you can see what type of clientele they will draw in.That being said if a 15min rate works for you more power to you.

hahahaha...!  What a great way to start the day!  Laughing and having fun!


*SMILE*

LL

Just curious.

Do many...
1. hobbyists partake of 15 min??
2. just want a 15 min BnG session?
3. How much QUALITY can there be in a QQ if less than 30 min?

To the Providers:
1. Do you get a lot of the above type of business? (Just askin' for facts...not making any judgement on you if you do, OK!)
2. If you do not offer the above, do you get many requests for those?

...but that is NOT me. It'd be like blink your eyes and it's time to be going
30 min is the minimum that I will ask for.

But to each their own.
Peace

I never thought about the time issue. It does make sense from that perspective, since I have friends I don't get to see anymore, or at least not that much, since they got married and had kids. The lack of time is one reason why I like being single.

Hobbyist speaking.
1. I don't think many do. I don't have a lot of free time, but I would rather wait until I get free time before I settle for a short session. I don't look down on those that do though. It is just that I would feel rushed in a 15 minute session, and even if I could get off in 15 I don't have the money to waste on a 15 minute session when an hour is only about 100 to 150(example only).

2  Some do, but I don't think most of us do.

3. The first meeting normally consist of at least 10-15 minutes of talking so not much, now if it is someone that the hobbyist has met before there is less talking, but I still don't think 30 minutes is enough time, unless it is a non-GFE session, and even then I doubt it would work.