When referring to high-end providers it’s not just the price of admission that makes them high-end it’s the service in my opinion they provide a top tier service.
The quality of the entire experience defines high-end for me.
High-end has nothing to do with the dollar value a provider puts on her services. I have enjoyed the company of a few providers that have facilitated a superior experience in the price range of $350- $400. Likewise, I have enjoyed equally superior services from some providers that charged fees in the $800+ range. So for me, it has nothing to do with the cost of the service. If I receive a high-end experience from a provider, I consider her services to be high-end.
Just because a provider values her time at a high dollar value, doesn't make that provider a high-end provider. She may simply be a provider that has GPS, or some other reason that she values her time at an elevated rate. Cases in point may be Playboy centerfolds or famous porn stars. Both usually ask $1K+ per hour of their time (at a minimum). That price point has nothing to do with the quality of the experience received. We've all heard the stories about providers that charge elevated rates, but the experience delivered is nothing near a mind blowing experience that would justify the amount paid. $1,500 per hour is not high-end if the quality of the services delivered only justify at a $250 price point.
has a more practical approach. If she can bend over and grab her ankles while holding her ass in the air for standing doggy, that's the only kind of "high-end" I'm interested in.
Are considered at a 1K price point. Now that doesn't mean the service u get is 1K service. But price point is all a guy has to go on when first searching. It always is one of the first things along with ratings. Service is considered once u find ladies for the latter considererations. Myself, I would never see a 1K lady no matter what the service level is. And I can certainly afford to. Also, a 350 guy may consider 700 as a high end lady. There is no real standard answer.
A luxury hotel that she's not sharing with another provider
Her hair, makeup, nails, and skin are flawless.
A short tight dress, heels, and lacy lingerie.
The bathroom is clean and dry, not like it was just used by someone other than her.
If you're 15 minutes late it's no big deal because she doesn't book back to back appointments.
the actual "substance" that makes for a high-end date, but I would add that when you go north of $1000/hr, I would also expect her to be DDG. However, even in the rate-stratosphere, there is no guarantee that the service level will justify the price, but if I'm getting everything else on your list, and she is beautiful, I can probably live with average service.
you are the only man she has ever known or cared about, at least until you walk out the door.
It's the illusion that does the trick.
A high end provider is going to target the rich upper class... Or anyone with an upper class income. So at a minimum her rates will be high. This appeals to the class conscious clientele who don't want to be sharing access with the hoi poloi. Her own personal view of class status may or may not align with her business plan.
Very well prepared for sessions. Top end hotels. A good personal ad website. Top notch in terms of looks and services in reviews.
used by providers trying to justify their higher rates or by clients trying to justify paying those higher rates.
Higher price does not always equal a higher quality of an experience.
I don't care for or use that term. It can lead to a false sense of expectations for the encounter.
I find it interesting because some of you think that a provider who is $400-500 an hour should only cater to 1 client a day, but you also expect a 3-4 star hotel. How is that possible when you’re not paying for her hotel. The price of a nice hotel is expensive AF. Plus, you don’t want to give a deposit.
I find it interesting because some of you think that a provider who is $400-500 an hour should only cater to 1 client a day, but you also expect a 3-4 star hotel. How is that possible when you’re not paying for her hotel. The price of a nice hotel is expensive AF. Plus, you don’t want to give a deposit.
I'm confused, Queen. You started this thread by asking the question, "What do you consider high-end?" After the thread gets some reactions directly responding to your question, you completely change the subject. Do you really want answers to your original question or do you really just want to complain about the expectations of customers and what a $400-$500 an hour price point should include? You ask for significantly more than $400-$500 for an hour of your time. Why are you even concerned with what customers in the lower price ranges expect?
Finally, what do deposits have to do with the original question???
Please enlighten us as to what you REALLY want to know, and as you often say, "Smile for me"!
You can be sure she's not and has no clue what it is.
Also, "highly reviewed," an utterly meaningless term and most can't even tell you what it actually means.
What about "New and Improved!"? Like toothpaste or laundry soap, just put the same product in a new container with a "New and Improved" LABEL and increase the price. It works for them.
You can be sure she's not and has no clue what it is.
Also, "highly reviewed," an utterly meaningless term and most can't even tell you what it actually means.
come with less than high review scores which is a contradiction, so I agree "highly-reviewed" means little to me. However, no reviews is worse.
I think it depends on the person obviously, some people feel like high end is above $500/$600 others above $1,000. For me, it would be anyone over the $600 mark and they need to check off all boxes.
* Looks (at least a 9), can range from the model look to pornstar to girl next door but have to be a 9 in my eyes.
* Manicure, pedicure, hair, makeup
* Nice hotel, but most providers already stay at nice ones at this price range
* Performance is key. GFE and kinky. Should satisfy the client with reasonable requests. Any extras should be on the menu as well.
This way you have an experience to look back on and fantasize about for weeks until you repeat. They should assume that you will repeat if all goes well. What makes the price worth it sometimes, is to be able to live those moments again and again in your head.
So, I agree with others that rates, itself, doesn't really indicate the quality of service or companion, etc. With that being stated, I've noticed a difference between the companions I've met who tend to offer a higher rate than the handful I've spent time with that don't. Within the past couple years, I've spent more time with companions who charge $1k+/hr than who charge less than that. Two companions with rates under the $1k "mark" come time mind with whom I've had remarkable, incredible and memorable experiences with. Given their rates, I've been able to book longer sessions, which means I get to spend more time with them. They are both absolutely fantastic and have no problems recommending them to anyone.
Still, I've noticed a difference between these two phenomenal women (both amazing companions and amazing people) and most of the companions I've spent time with who charge the higher rates. It's something about how we connect, how we interact and something about their personalities that's different. I don't attribute that directly to their rates *but* they all charge a higher rate.
Personally, I consider anyone charging $1k+ to be "high-end", even if that's the "wrong" way to look at it. lol
So, I'm the first to admit I haven't sorted all of this out yet, but I certainly am noticing a "trend". I'm also noticing "the universe" is protecting me from bad experiences, which also doesn't make any sense to me _at all_...but, I'm not complaining.
I've seen ladies who were IRL models, who looked like they just stepped out of a VS catalog, and who was hosting in a 4-star hotel. And of course--these days--many who charge 800 for an hour of their time.
I tend to think about whether they presented themselves with charm and grace, whether they fucked me blind, whether they ate pussy like they meant it, and a hundred other things having to do with looks, demeanor and performance. But it's never occurred to me to employ the label "high end".
Perhaps it's because I tend to be price-elastic in my shopping, but I think either a woman has the goods or she doesn't, whatever the price. All the fancy dress and addresses and quoting Proust, while charging me big bucks for lousy performance won't make me refer to her as high end. And a modestly priced provider who kills it in presentation and performance won't be "non-high-end" to me just because she charges me "only" 500.
I get it, there are "luxury" cars and "exotic" cars and "economy" cars. I get that labels exist. I guess this is just one I never took seriously.
Agree. I was going to make a similar post earlier but then held off. To me the term really applies in a context and for me that would be when talking about service pricing -- that is "X is at the high end...."
I would tend towards a term like "high class" or some thing similar if I understand what the OP was trying to get at. I suppose some might take exception to that term as "high class" women are not suppose to act like providers in their view. My take is that providers are basically something between entertainers and the hostess for the event, with me being their guest. So high class for me seems very fitting for those that make me feel welcome and they are happy to have me there with them, and they seek to make everything very comfortable, enjoyable and memorable for the nature of the activities in which we engage one another.
...a very good Brazilian Butt Lift.
A quick review of a recent “high end” session! She meets me at the door in a short silk robe and sheer lingerie! She approaches me like a mistress I haven’t seen in weeks, going deep with DFK while grabbing my crotch! I return the love! She takes me through her one br apartment to walk-in closet where she continues to kiss me while stripping me, going right to teasing bbbj! She misses my body… loves my cock (LOL!)… We shower together.. she massages my shoulders, moves in behind for genital and frontal massage, then I turn and she kneels for Russian, we do p to p front and rear! Next to br! She has a small couch and a long narrow padded bench, sufficient play space for our romp that follows! I move the bench away from the bed! We bounce between three sites; couch bench and bed for teasing foreplay and athletic sex! She’s on her back on the bench while I maneuver above her! She comes more than once as we tangle! We end up in more intimate positions on bed where I eventually finish in her mouth! She gets us water while we talk vacations and golf! Another shower and she sends me off with a kiss and a hug, and some small treats! She asks me not to wait so long next time! Price: Very low! Value: Priceless!
it is an attempt to justify a higher rate.
There are women, and there is performance.
High End providers are the ones who come out on top of the price/performance analysis we all do.
When I first got started in this hobby $150-$200 was about the going rate for an hour. $300-$400 was definitely the higher end provider and $500 was elite. There are so many factors that went into all of this back then and all of that has sure changed over the years.
I remember there were these 2 smoking hot blondes that were advertising a 3some for $700/hr and I thought it was crazy and that only rich aholes with $$ to burn would pay that. If that level of ladies advertised that today, they could get $1,500-$2,000+ for sure!!
Oh how I miss them old days 😂🤣😂🤣💜
I don't know if I am repeating anybody above (that I skipped over), but some of this depends on when you started and how your income, disposable income, and discretionary income have grown.
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In general, hobbies are considered to be discretionary spending. If the hourly cost of your hobby (stamp collecting, bird watching, other) has doubled over, say, 10 years, that might exceed the growth in your discretionary spending budget.
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How has your Gross, Dispo, and Discretionary changed over the years?
For most, Gross has increased (I'm using Gov Stats to say ~50% increase),
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I am GUESSING that taxes and necessary expenses have probably increased by more than 50% since 2010 biting into Discretionary Income. Taxes, property taxes, mortgage, school, utilities, food, clothing, ... take a larger share than before. I'm making up percentages, below.
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Consequently, Discretionary income as a percentage of gross has DECREASED in the past 10+ years so a doubling of the cost of stamps, bird watching or other hobby means that we do less of it.
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12 years ago (Gross Income from Gov Stats)
2010 Gross Income X (assume 68,000)
Taxes, essentials ... (assume 80% of gross), leaving
Discretionary income = 0.2 X (13,600)
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2022 Gross Income 1.5 X (68,000 in 2010 is now 102,000, an increase of 50%)
Taxes, essentials, ... (assume it is now 85% of gross), leaving
Discretionary Income 0.15 x 102,000 = 15,300
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Gross went up ~50% (68000 to 102000)
DISCRETIONARY went up only 12.5% (13,600 to 15,300)
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The numbers and and percentages I picked will differ for everybody. Everybody on TER is different. There a bunch of very wealthy guys with high incomes who aren't feeling that pinch. Some guys have paid off their mortgages and now have MORE discretionary income. The numbers above are just to show that discretionary income for "average" (what is average? I don't know!) hobbiers probably has not increased along with gross income.
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Hence, a doubling of hourly costs probably means a decrease in activity.
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WHERE ARE THE FREAKONOMICS GUYS WHEN WE NEED THEM?
When I first got started in this hobby $150-$200 was about the going rate for an hour. $300-$400 was definitely the higher end provider and $500 was elite. There are so many factors that went into all of this back then and all of that has sure changed over the years.
I remember there were these 2 smoking hot blondes that were advertising a 3some for $700/hr and I thought it was crazy and that only rich aholes with $$ to burn would pay that. If that level of ladies advertised that today, they could get $1,500-$2,000+ for sure!!
Oh how I miss them old days 😂🤣😂🤣💜
SuperFreakonomics: Global Cooling, Patriotic Prostitutes, and Why Suicide Bombers Should Buy Life Insurance. Levitt and Dubner.
In 1990, Edward offered Vivian $3k for a week.
Of course, she was a street walker.
"High-end" is any rate above what I'm willing to pay for the offered value.
Interesting to read everyone’s opinions. While I would agree that the “high end” providers will typically come with high price tags (also relative), there may also be a method behind that madness as pricing does heavily influence the type of dates and clients that one attracts.
I no longer offer incall but when I did, attention to detail was a big deal for me. Yes, I had snacks, and a variety of alcoholic and nonalcoholic beverages on hand. Not to run out the clock as some have suggested but to ensure that my guests needs were fully met. I stocked only white linens so you knew they were clean. I had a selection of men’s toiletries available for shower time. I wanted my clients to have every comfort possible.
Dressing appropriately, not cheap or in an overly slutty way in public. Good social skills and table manners for dinner dates. The ability to carry on intelligent conversations and to be charming and personable. Not letting your personal views on sensitive subjects interfere with an enjoyable encounter.
Understanding of your clients needs and desires and tailoring the session accordingly. Focusing your attention on them during your time together and avoiding distraction. Not watching the clock or booking sessions close together.
I could probably think of more but you get the idea. It’s a whole package and mentality that to me creates that “high end” experience. Yes the provider should be pretty and yes the services should be excellent but anyone can be beautiful on the outside and any girl can perform the actual acts. It’s so much more than that in my opinion.
Understood that not all will agree and that’s fine. We are all individuals and I respect everyone’s preferences. However I have found there are many gentlemen that think similarly to myself and those are who I seek to attract. The beauty of this industry is that there is a ton of diversity, so most can find what they desire.
Very well stated!
Now thats a lady who "gets" it.