I see all different agendas here, and wonder what makes the folks here tick.  MP67 tells us that he likes to "mess with people".  Perhaps the answer will give us an understanding of how to get along better, or at least explain that it's not why you're here.

plus, it's not a bad way to pick up loose women.

8o)

this sort of question will only make the sissy Mangina's come on parade crying about aliases and we are off and running on that topic again.

They will want you to do all manner of corralling these alias peeps and send them to a far away place, while they themselves should be protected by the Moderator's.

Fun, Fun, Fun and Entertainment is the name of the game. Otherwise many here might just loose interest and go back to their deserted regional board.

On more than one level. So I'm going to throw it all out there.

You people can take it for what it's worth.

Initially, I got on here to meet with women and fuck them. Pure and simple.

You pay for it, one way or the other. So WTF difference does it make?

I know I've said this before, but the strangest thing happened.

I met people. Hobbyist and provider. Online and in person. And I made friends out of some of them. Hopefully by their choice and not just mine.

Now, I'll admit, I do fuck with people. It's an entertainment factor. And I would hope that most would appreciate that for what it is. I would hope that the one's that know me know I have something of a playful streak in me. And that includes you, Little Phil. As well as Gambler, mrfisher, channelguy, Allure', Tasha, among many others that I know noone has the patience to sit here and name off.

But in the same respect, I know you know I'm a respectful person, and I truly care about certain people. Fuck that. Most people.

I've had my fights with certain people(you know who they are), and I've tried to let bygones be bygones. Whether they want to accept this is up to them.

I don't like to fight, but I have a talent for it. I'm not proud of it, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

The thing is, and this goes back to my thread about 'cliques'. I feel we are our own clique. I know this might sound juvenile, or even elitist.

But we are own community. Yes, everyone has their family life, their jobs, whatever, that noone in their persoanl life knows about.

Well, not entirely, because a lot of people in my civvie life know what I do. I'm not ashamed and embrace it.

My point is, though longwinded and alcohol fueled, I don't regret a day being here with you fine people.

I wish I found this forum earlier in my life.

I really appreciate talking with like-minded individuals.

Well, the ones that put up with my fucked-up shit!

I truly wish everyone enjoys the rest of their weekend, and I'm curious as to the responses you get LP...

Mikey

I don't really understand MP67's need to mess with people.  IMHO, this forum is to share info, not to fuck with people.  Never really understood that mentality.  I am here to offer my thoughts and pick up from others.

A little humor is fine but I thought the purpose of this forum was to share info.  Am I wrong?

Swim

Primarily, info & social interaction with other hobbyists.

I admit to a somewhat guilty pleasure of jumping on what I consider to be stupid shit. I both enjoy it immensely and feel guilty at the same time, for my own personal reasons.

I will bully men, women, and other subspecies equally!  I show no partiality to any group.

Sometimes I like to answer questions, or make statements that are "nice" just to keep them guessing!  I have even been known, as it was pointed out to me once in a PM, to agree with a mangina!  I hope my efforts are appreciated when I undertake a venture such as that!!!

Lastly, I come here for fun and entertainment.  My home board is a barren wasteland!  Our former mod set out (and succeeded) to destroy it like he did the others he ran into the ground.  His replacement is bent on turning it into a halfway house for WK's and manginas!

This is THE place to be!!!  It's got everything I need to enjoy myself AND be a bully at the same time....or is that a "pigly-man"?  I get called so many names it's hard to keep track  LOL



OMG!!!!!  I left out the most important part!

Literbike lives here!  I am hopelessly in love with her!

It's been invaluable to me,teaching me what NOT to do.

Mainly to try and learn something.  I can't believe some of the stupid mistakes I've made.  Sorry girls.

However, some of the crazy shit you read on here is unbelievably
entertaining.   Keep it up.                          TH

really great ladies.

Other than that I enjoy the comeraderie that sometimes exists here, getting to "know" fellow hobbyists a bit, being exposed to different viewpoints with respect to or ways of hobbying, learning a practical thing or two, and sometimes I have to admit that it is fun to get into a furball with someone(s)

Since I can not talk to anyone in my life about my hobby experience, I come here as a venue for doing so. I look for information and perspective from both the men and women. I realize that the perspectives posted are just that, and do not reflect absolute truth, but I value hearing them just the same. I've never needed to be entertained, particularly at someone else's expense, and I steer away from people who need me or others to entertain them. I figure there are multiple sources of entertainment, but an extremely few places to talk about the serious and humorous aspects of the hobby. I do not have a need to be protected by the mods., but the degree to which there are posts that are of interest to me is the degree to which I will read and respond.

The same reason I follow a Harley board. I love my hobbies, and I enjoy learning more about the finer points. There are always things I pick up that make my rides more enjoyable (both kinds). BTW, the Harley board has the same general cast of characters, assholes, wannabes, know-it-alls as this board. You learn to skip past the posts attached to the handles of the folks with the unhelpful agendas. The difference here is that alias handles cause me to stop and read worthless posts until I figure out who the authors are.

why a woman, even while being paid, would have sex with me.

So far I haven't discovered the reason!

What is your fucking trip with me?!

WTF did I ever do to you?!

Man up!

I see your snide remarks on here, LV and NM boards.

What? Let's go! Talk to me!

I can talk about my provider life on TER and ask questions I couldn't ask any of my civvie friends. This side of my life is very private, but it's nice to be able to chat with women and men about the hobby without being judged. Also, I can meet clients through TER and get a feel for who they are from their posts....if that makes sense

OK, common sense may not always be on display.

It's nice to know there are other half-way decent perverts in this hobby ... or so I speculate.

1) entertainment of course.

2) information: i love reading something that gives me a surprise or a new perspective on things. i like to dish those up too even though it is often not well recieved.

3) messing: if i'm messed with, then messing back can be great fun. i've always been more comfortable as a counterpuncher.

4) there have been times when i came here just to vent or celebrate failures and successes. it was a way of getting feedback. usually i vented under alias and celebrated under the handle of record. but this reason is fading though. there is simply less off the board mess to vent about. since i am more comfortable and confident with how i'm doing, venting and celebrating is not so interesting. i no longer care to solicit the feedback.

This is a broad question, one that could take up a lot of room to answer (for those who care to do so honestly and completely).  But it's interesting reading material, fun to chime in on some of the  issues (and some that don't deserve to take up space, but we have the option to ignore those, don't we?).  I personally don't care to push buttons with people, but some people like more drama in their life than others.  And, it's all good.  No one makes us read anything, or answer anything.  We have choices, and that's the American Way!!  I think....

I had so many questions before during my 12 years here. NObody answered my questions. Probably they didn't have the answers. I'm more conformed now and don't ask much. Now you tell me you would have answered my questions. Now I don't even know what I wanted to know.

My reasons are easy to understand.  Pure and simple...ENTERTAINMENT!

I enjoy hearing what people say on many different topics.

I expect to get "fucked with" from time to time and I don't mind it at all.  Conversely, I do some "fucking with" myself.  I do not expect everyone to agree with me.  If everyone agrees, what's the point.

It's good to get info on providers. I also like to hear their delusional thinking.

For crying out loud, we're all a bunch of weirdos anyway so the drama is to be expected.  A little drama gets the blood pumping.

Mostly I like the choices.  Participate or not.  Go away in a huff.  Stay and argue.  Stand on the side line and watch.  It doesn't matter to me since this is anonymous and we can say what we please.

So, the long and short of it is this.  I'm here for entertainment and information.  When the boards stop providing those things, I'll move on.

1) Less/No personal attacks

2) Entertainment

3) No white knighting

4) Respect others opinions whether you like, disagree and what not

5) Less fishing

Personal preference:  I’m looking for a place where serious, semi-serious, and non-serious discussions can all coexist.  As it is now too many discussions get hijacked into locker room insult sessions.  I obviously lob a number of those insults in counter battery fire because they seem to be the preferred currency on here.

I’d prefer the serious threads can stay mostly serious, where open discussion/debate is encouraged but there’s less tolerance by the mods for hijacking via personal attacks and grossly off-topic comments.  The less serious the topic, the looser set of what’s allowed.  The hard part is applying two sets of rules within one board based upon the topics.

It may be the best option is two forums, one for more substantive Q&A, info exchange, personal perspectives, telling stories, etc.  The other for the heavy fire bantering, rock throwing, and almost-anything’s-fair-game.  Neither of these two approaches is evil, but they don’t mix well in one forum.  There is a one-way pull as has been recently (can’t speak before that) many serious threads get easily hijacked as soon as a dissenting view is expressed.  Barb-throwing threads rarely morph into serious discussions.

Whatever the forum is or becomes one thing I’d like to see is clearer rules for what’s allowed and not in the way of punches and counter punches.  At the moment I’ve had posts stay up that I suspected would be pulled, and other posts that were far milder that were disallowed.  No sense in posting something knowing it won’t make it, but using the same words one day seems allowable and on the next day, not allowed.  That tends to encourage the bar fight to escalate from fists to knives to guns to the detriment of all of us.

I am here to meet hot chicks, do kinky things and pay them to leave.

But is not the case anymore. The boards are not like they used to be.  Ladies are not posting threads about availability anymore and hobby related threads are thing of the past.  Too many self-promoting and drama threads.  

I don't think we will ever get back to what this site used to be like.

For me well infotainment lol as someone else said, info, exposure.... imo pretty much all you can get from here.

Mostly kidding.

For the GB specifically: I read and sometimes post here because it's interesting and beneficial to me to hear others' opinions on various topics. Even if (and often because!) they differ from my own point of view.

For the local boards: To advertise and help people with ISOs and occasionally complain about some chick ganking my site text. *cough*

For the PO board: I'm only on it for the pillow fights. And to see the hot new photos before any of y'all.

There have been some discussions about what one wants from this board and one poster suggests self-discovery, another says it can play a support-group role for her, other's just want to figuratively "fuck" with people and most just want to do the same, but literally.  Well, I think everyone wants to do it literally.  I definitely enjoy it, but whether it's figurative or literal, it requires a willing partner and I see some of the sensitive people appear more willing to partner in the figurative arena.

Some of the same thoughts have been going through my head for my, admittedly, pretty short career in the hobby.  The thing I've found most distressing so far is the isolation and this board does provide an outlet.  This activity isn't publicly accepted anywhere, even if it's legally accepted in some countries. (those lucky dogs)  If I were to ask a non-hobbyist about it, I'm sure the advice I'd get is to get out while I still can.  I won't qualify that as good or bad advice.  I have been using my encounters as a way to measure myself and how I respond to stress, particularly fear, and what my feelings are regarding the providers.  I haven't fallen in love and I don't want to.  A part of me wants to rebel against the establishment, a part of me wants to be a rogue, and a particularly small part of me wants to be inside, if you know what I mean.

From the hobbyists point of view, there is room for every kind of activity and any level of participation.  Some guys seem be satisfied jerking themselves off while the provider is naked and some guys want to go all the way or nothing.  There isn't a lot of judgement going on, or none that appears serious, with that regard.

From the non-hobbyists point of view, there is only a sharp line, drawn somewhere between looking at women's underwear ads in the Sears catalog and going to a strip club for a lap dance.  That line is made of some combination of moral and legal viewpoints, but not, apparently made of any thoughtful personal viewpoints.  Crossing that line is forbidden to them and in their minds, forbidden to us.

I've seen posters talk about their counselors telling them they've got to quit.  I'm not certain that I would share this even with a counselor.  With my friends and family to talk to, I've never needed counseling.  Now that I'm here, I have you guys.  It is a little impersonal, at least with the men here.  It can get a lot more personal with the women. (yum)

I'm not trying to defend or trash the hobby. I'm just trying to say that there are all kinds out there.  I appreciate the insight that some people provide and the humor that invariably follows.  I'm also hoping to meet some nice people.  I don't want to become addicted and I want to avoid catching anything along the way.

I agree with the poster about living life fully.  In a way, I'm collecting some experiences and gaining a particular insight that only a minority get to see.  I don't know how I'm going to apply what I learn to the "real" world yet.

I'm sure I have some more thoughts in here somewhere.  I'll let you know when I find them.

PP