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cks175 51 Reviews 76 reads
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Followed the guidelines and common sense. What am I doing wrong?
First off, you didn’t use common sense. You overthought it.
Hi, so-and-so. I found your review on TER and saw the linked ad (link). I am interested in 1 HR or HHR appointment, depending on your and my availability.
Why not just scream, “Hello! I’m a time waster!”? You’ll exponentially increase your odds of a reply if you request a specific date and time.
Unfortunately your ad does not list your rates.
Pro-tip: Don’t try to start a relationship with a provider by passive aggressively critiquing her ad copy.
and interested in very basic quality service.
What are you trying to do here, entrap her?

Folks, help me out please. I sent this text - with the respective changes for specific names and add links to a few reviewed providers. And haven't heard back from any. I was trying to be polite and respectful, watched the language, etc. Followed the guidelines and common sense. What am I doing wrong? Here is an example of a text I sent

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Hi, so-and-so. I found your review on TER and saw the linked ad (link). I am interested in 1 HR or HHR appointment, depending on your and my availability. Unfortunately your ad does not list your rates. What are the HR and HHR donations?

I am a 60 years old professional and interested in very basic quality service.  I am an easy and respectful customer. I expect safety, professionalism and discretion from a provider.  

My schedule is pretty hectic, I can only do mornings or early afternoons during workdays. (list my availability for the week)

As to the payment goes, I only do cash at the door. I recently got had with the standard "Venmo for the room number, then a security deposit". So, I am a bit jumpy about this, I hope you understand. Other than that, I am open to any kind of verification you might require. Safety is always first
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So, WTF is wrong with the text like above that I got zero responses?
Thanks!

Could turn them off. Some probably thought, “What a cheap ass”.
But that’s me so..,🤷🏻‍♂️

I just glanced at your 2 prior TER reviews. In my experience if a provider read those reviews she likely wouldn't see you. Ladies a frequently wary of guys who call providers "hooker" and who give low scores. I'm in no way suggesting that you not post honest reviews, but when your entire review history is negative and condescending it will likely turn ladies off.
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Just my $0.02.

Steve_Trevor70 reads

A few things popped out for me:
* Smacks of not bothering to do research. If you saw her review, you saw her profile which should have her rates. Also you should know whether you want to see her or not before you contact her. Stating your expectations for her behavior could be insulting to her.
* No need to tell her what a busy guy you are in this first text. Just offer a couple of options, if those don’t work you can suggest others.
* Don’t give your demands for payment option here.  If you don’t already know from your research, and she doesn’t tell you her options, then you can ask about it.  
* Don’t say how jumpy you are, that would scare me away if I were the provider.

@ Steve_Trevor,  
I'm in total agreement with your reply.
Especially the last point referring to "being jumpy"...
A huge pause for caution.

Warmly,
AJ

Never ask for a 30 minute date to a class provider. Once you meet her you can feel out that option.  
Any providers I care to see are going to see a 30 minute request as a big red flag. If your time is that tight , pay for a hour  
but explain you need to hurry things along.  

Hello @ Rockville939 ,
You  seem  like  a  very  kind,  respectful  and  worthy  gentleman.  :)

My  first  thought  is  you  may  be  contacting  Providers  whom  all  require  
"deposits".  

Thus,  upon  indicating  your  modus  operandi  for  donations,  they're  just
ignoring  you.  
{ In  my  personal  opinion,  that  behavior  is  rather  discourteous.
    Since  this  business  is  "customer~service~orientated",  I  attempt  to  
    reply  to  anyone  whom  contacts  me  unless  their  message  is  just
    plain  rude,  vulgar  or  senseless. }

 
However  just  a  few  ideas  to  ponder....

 
●  Perhaps  you  should  email  rather  than  text  if  possible.
     

●  It  appears  your  text  is  "TMI"  for  the  persons  you're  attempting  to  make  
         a  connection  with;
         "KISS"  "Keep  It  Simply  Short"

 
●  Finally,  I'm  quoting  you  here:  
         "I  am  a  60  years  old  professional  and  interested  in  very  basic  quality  service."

          Technically,  we  as  "Providers"  do  not  offer  "services",  however  we  are  
          compensated  for  our  "time".    
   
          I  know  semantics  shouldn't  matter,  ...  "Tomato",   "el tomate",   "la tomatera",  or  
          "pomodoro".....    
           However,  the  implication  of  "services",  may  be  a  "LE"  red  flag  to  said  Companions.
     

 
Please  note  also,  my  reply  to  Mr. :
@ Steve_Trevor,  as  he's  posed  some  accurate  observations.

"I'm  in  total  agreement  with  your  reply.
Especially  the  last  point  referring  to  "being  jumpy"...
A  huge  pause  for  caution."

Warmly,
Angelina  Jones

Jhena70 reads

If you read his review. His type of girls are 80 dollars. And yay ally on crawl lister that wants-deposit

Actually the acronym KISS means:

Keep It Simple, Stupid.

It’s much more refreshing to tell things like it is.

Thank you for your post. Honestly as a provider I would say if you are reaching out to multiple gals the first thing you are going to need to do is personalize the message to each one to show you have at least done some research. Most legitimate providers are going to have a website with at least some directions as to how to request an appointment. Unless they specifically have "ask for rates" everywhere you should be able to find their rate request. I am on here (TER) P411, and my website all have my rates listed, so when I get this request it is a bit of an annoyance as my rates are everywhere. Most gals (including myself) do not like to discuss $$ with a potential client. I ask gents put the money in an envelope and leave it out in open sight. I personally do not do deposits, some do. But do this with caution, and make sure if you send a deposit it is a legitimate provider. If they ask for a deposit and you do not wish to give one move on. I do require screening info (unless you are on P411, I will accept this as well). If a provider will only see you with screening or P411 info and you do not send any of this they *may* request it, or your message might get deleted. We get lots of message requests and this may be perceived as a time waster.  
You said that you can only do mornings or early afternoon, but what about the providers you contacted? I do appointments between 10 am and 9 pm, but during the summer I only work about 1 week a month. Some providers may have another job or need to get a babysitter for an appointment, so you might be available, but the provider may not.  
Example if sent to me:  
Hi Scarlet, this is (XYZ) and I am interested in an appointment. Per your schedule I see you are available between 10 am and 9 pm, I would like to book something next week between 10 am and 1 pm for either one hour or 30 min. Here is my screening info (attached to message) or my P411 ID is (XYZ).  I am 60 years old. (You can include some general personal info, but we do NOT care about the size of your member, how fit you are, or how good looking you are.)  
If you have any other questions let me know, be safe and have fun!  

1.  Your  text is waaaay too long.  Even if it was in an email it would be too long.  They probably looked at you as a time  
     waster.
2.  HHR visit makes them think you are a cheapo, even though that may be all the time you can spare away from work.
3.  If you found her review on TER, you should have seen her rates in her profile.  You don't ask what her rates are if  
     they're not listed in her ad.  You ask her if the rates listed in her TER profile are accurate.
4.  We all expect "safety, professionalism and discretion from a provider."  It goes without saying...so you shouldn't have  
     said it.
5.  You have to ask for a specific day and time, not "mornings or early afternoons."  
6.  Never mention "cash."  It could be construed as an offer to to exchange money for sex.  And there's no need to  
     mention it in a first contact.  Wait until you're screened and approved.  And don't mention it first.  If she asks for a  
     deposit, politely decline and move on.

When you contact a provider you should be ready to book.  Providers don't want to text/email back and forth.  It takes up too much of their time and they'll label you a "time waster."

very cringe.

I wouldn't see you lol

My 2 cents:

:  Too long in a text message for a first attempt
:  Make it brief

"Hello XXX
My name is YYY
Are you available on 6/30/2023

References:
xxxx
xxxx

(wait for response)

No offense, but I read your reviews & you do appear to be cheap, and very low scoring. Everything you request sounds demanding, like your a difficult date. Kiss=keep it super simple. I think it’s better to have a specific date & time available for the provider. Be kind. Best of luck to you, sir. Happy hobbying.

Everyone is bashing this guy for wanting 'a half hour' but he never says that.  When he says '1 HR or HHR' I'm sure he means one hour or one and a half hours.

I guess I could be wrong though...

I have always assumed HHR = Half Hour and HR= Hour. If I have a client request an hour and half they usually request 90 min in their message. But I have seen many acronyms that I have had to google for myself!!

hr = 1 hour (60 min)
hhr = half hour (30 min)
qv = quick visit (15 min)

Context usually helps ("hhr 300, hr 500, 1.5hr 700"), but in TER context, I usually take hhr to mean half hour. I'm not sure what other non-numeric abbreviation would be used for half hour: an h with the top half lopped off is an n, with the bottom half lopped off is a | . "shr" for semi-hour? Nope. "dhr" for demi-hour? Nope. "hhr" for hemi-hour? Yup!  
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Semi-, Demi-, Hemi-
http://grammarist.com/prefix/semi-hemi-and-demi/
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semihemidemisemiquaver
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_twenty-eighth_note

Posted By: Stee
Re: Isn't HHR hour and a half?
Everyone is bashing this guy for wanting 'a half hour' but he never says that.  When he says '1 HR or HHR' I'm sure he means one hour or one and a half hours.  
   
 I guess I could be wrong though...


-- Modified on 5/5/2023 6:32:40 PM

I’ve been looking at providers’ ads and HHR does indeed mean half hour.  I was mistaken.  

This guy shouldn’t be using acronyms if he’s new to the business though.  

There was a recent post about how to use acronyms and abbreviations:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113/re-ec-33870

Posted By: Stee
Re: Isn't HHR hour and a half?
I’ve been looking at providers’ ads and HHR does indeed mean half hour.  I was mistaken.  
   
 This guy shouldn’t be using acronyms if he’s new to the business though.  
I agree. Let's try to keep things clear.

First of all, If those providers have not responded back then move on to other providers. I am available for "CAR SERVICE" as well as Hotel/Motel and Casinos in Atlantic City, NJ for a nice price. (609) 431-1393.

CurlyW-NatsFan65 reads

Usually  I would cause  raucous by calling you out. I mean there is not even any debate here that this is an AD.  Putting out your phone number and shit..  What else is left?  

 
But again looking at you and the fact that you have to advertise cheap car dates, I feel really bad for you.  So consider this as a freebie..

Followed the guidelines and common sense. What am I doing wrong?
First off, you didn’t use common sense. You overthought it.
Hi, so-and-so. I found your review on TER and saw the linked ad (link). I am interested in 1 HR or HHR appointment, depending on your and my availability.
Why not just scream, “Hello! I’m a time waster!”? You’ll exponentially increase your odds of a reply if you request a specific date and time.
Unfortunately your ad does not list your rates.
Pro-tip: Don’t try to start a relationship with a provider by passive aggressively critiquing her ad copy.
and interested in very basic quality service.
What are you trying to do here, entrap her?

nothing you are doing wrong that hasn't already been mentioned here, so you have your list of what to work on.  

So I would suggest your first thing you do is go to their website. A lot of the questions you are asking will not be answered in email and you will find them on their website. Once on the website you should fill out the screening form and wait for a response.

reading his review . . . . .    

 
Everything you need to know about his previous booking troubles in his OP can probably be explained by this statement in his review . . . .  "They are on the pricier but still reasonable side."   Then he goes on to say that full service was $200, but he opted for a BBBJ for $150.  

 
This is not "pricey" by any standard, but indies can usually smell "cheap" a mile away.  Agencies are not concerned about financial depth, especially agencies in this general price range.  

Angel4Life68 reads

Sounds like you and your date from the agency really hit it off!  But like so many others have stated YOU TALK TOO MUCH! You divulge way too much information about yourself and experiences that at best are irrelevant, and at worst detract your appeal to providers!  Chill, Relax, and quit over-analyzing!

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