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FlaSailorRon 24 Reviews 1054 reads
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Condoms are not birth control?

exit91951 reads

In my limited experience with providers (less than 10 so  far).. 2 have already told me that they do not use any birth control.. They figure why mess with hormones and they always practice safe sex, so who needs it..

I was shocked by this.. My little guys are still, theoretically, viable.. so the posibilities scare me to death.. and both of the providers are quite active as well..  

Is this fairly common? I woulld have expected exactly the opposite.. To be so active with multiple partners would seem to be russian roulette.

I have no idea.  It's not something I look to discuss with providers, it's really none of my business, and not why I am with her.  BTW, 2  providers who don't use personal BC is not a representative sample of the hobby world.   However, I would think that most providers who can still get pregnant would also use some form of birth control.  As we know, condoms are not 100% fool-proof, they can break.  I myself had the chop-job years ago, so I don't really worry about getting anyone preggo, but of course, still use the baggie.

Swim

I eat raw 75% of the time, as I'm trying to get my health back on track.
I don't take western meds unless 400% necessary.
I don't have children, I've never had an abortion, and I use condoms 100% of the time.
I am not on birth control.
IF universe forbid something happened I would take the $15-20 morning after pill

Questions get stupider by the second?

As soon as I walk into an in-call, the first question everyone asks is “are you on birth control” even before she touches you.

The second question I ask is “is your tubes tied? If the answer is not yes to one, I leave immediately!!

My question  to you is, what the fuck is wrong with you

exit9743 reads

It was very predictable that someone one would assume the worst because of this simple question.. no one said the two were representative.. but it does represent over 20% of the providers I have seen.. and no the 1st question is not.. "Do you use Birth control".. why would you assume that?.. I didn't say that.. and it's not a stupid question.. just a question.. In both cases they are providers I have seen many times.. sometimes I wonder if the point of the General Board is to find ways to criticize or for information.. so chill.. I asked a question.. and the answer does matter at some level.. I would not cancel any appointment if I found that there was no birth control in use other than condoms.. but I wondered if the practice was fairly common.. that's all.. get over it..  

Posted By: anonymousfun
Questions get stupider by the second?  
   
 As soon as I walk into an in-call, the first question everyone asks is “are you on birth control” even before she touches you.  
   
 The second question I ask is “is your tubes tied? If the answer is not yes to one, I leave immediately!!  
   
 My question  to you is, what the fuck is wrong with you?  
   
 

No one is saying he should go to an incall and ask her that.  But to wonder it at the back of your mind is only human.

His posts typically fall under 5 categories :

mean,  
insulting,  
Rude  
Annoying  
Clueless  

lmao

GaGambler844 reads

I agree that birth control is a very valid concern to anyone with "active swimmers" and my experience mirrors the OP's, but with a much larger sample size.

To answer the OP, yes it is quite common for providers to rely strictly on condoms for birth control, the why is beyond me as I have had many condoms fail over the years. Personally I can't imagine taking even a small risk of getting pregnant by a "john" if I were a provider, but yes it is a lot more common than you would think, AF's idiotic comments not withstanding. I have no idea what the actual percentage is, as I don't ever come out and ask, but judging by the reactions of the ladies who have experienced "condom failure" with me, I would have to say that 20% is a rather low number, I think the actual number is much higher, which I agree seems incredible in this day and age.

BTW I am often accused of being "mean" myself, but I try to direct my ire towards idiots and morons, not people asking legit questions. The OP's question was as legitimate as any I can think of.

You should ask them the question.

Personal intrusions are what is idiotic followed by baseless opinions like yours.

GaGambler938 reads

but you have plenty of time to catch up, just like last year. You aren't always the dumbest guy on the board, but you make up for it with staying power. I wouldn't give even money that Turdy will even be here by the end of the year, just like FIDIOT and the Dung beetle, but I KNOW you'll still be here, just like a fucking cockroach we can count on you to be here forever, so in spite of the long odds and with Turdy looking like a clearcut lock for SPOTY, my money is on you. Now go out there and say something stupid for me and let's win you that trophy.

Oh btw your actual post is simply too stupid to comment on, good work. Keep it up

He just randomly pops up and says something dumb or mean or both.  lmao

You, Curly, incicky and now drunken asian are the lords of TER.  

You three are the biggest shit heads on the planet. No I am not going away because you think you four ganging up just like middle school bully’s is going to make go away?

Your claim to fame is that, you were an unpaid moderator for TER. It is great honor to be moderating a fuck board and you got fired. You couldn’t even do that well can you, shit head?

And please spell my handle right.  It's not that hard

You.    

You're constantly pissed and post rude shit to nearly EVERYONE on this board. All your responses are along the lines of "Umm yeah,  so?",  "go away",  "disappear",  "make an exit" even when the post was legit.  

I only posted what I observed : that you're a grumpy old man who needs to remove that dildo stuck up your butt.  

;)

he manages to be all the above in one sentence.  

LMAO .. :D

Gods gift to the P4P world.

Like said before, start asking the question every time.

I believe asking these types personal question is intruding into private life.

How would you feel every provider you see asks you whether you had vasectomy? or are you capable of impregnating

this one takes the cake.  He seems to be permanently pissed off.  I think his life must really suck.  What a humorless tool.

His doctor? Lol

A teacher once said, 'if you have a question, ask. There are probably many others with the same question who won't ask in fear of looking dumb.'

-- Modified on 3/9/2014 9:37:31 AM

OP: "Is this fairly common? I woulld have expected exactly the opposite.. To be so active with multiple partners would seem to be russian roulette."

He's asking if it is common. (i.e. how many don't use it.)

I'm assuming the OP was hoping for a TER poll.

(But to answer your question: Birth control information on a website is useless unless the guy is going to draw blood and send it to a lab lol.)

-- Modified on 3/9/2014 7:14:43 PM

I would expect both party’s to be adults and do what is right for them. To quote “He is asking if it is common”? That is impossible to know, isn’t it?

My point still is, it is prying into someone’s personal life choices which is rude as far as I am concerned. I respect your privacy and I expect you to do the same.  

If I am so concerned about getting someone pregnant in P4P, I will go get vasectomy. Now someone is come and say it is not 100%. Yep, there is only one thing 100% that is, you will be dead one day.

I have been in the hobby little over 10 years and been paid VIP for all that time. I must say, the questions these days, has gone ridiculous to completely brain dead. Too much social media, I suppose.

You seem to fail to realize that there are varying degrees of probabilities. Condom fail rate is different from birth control fail rate.  

Also nothing is impossible to know.  You'd be surprised how much info can be learned indirectly.  Reasonable estimates can be drawn.  

I make a living (not related to birth control)  taking advantage of the differences in probabilities.

cashorcredit724 reads

I've always wonder about the birth control pill.

His question was better than the same old shit that gets asked over and over around here

Florida_Evans807 reads

Would you want to know?  How about if she terminated the pregnancy?  Would you feel like you're better off not knowing this info?  Or would you want some say so in the matter?

cashorcredit880 reads

I would definitely want some say in the matter as I'm pro life

Condoms are not birth control?

Back_In_Black925 reads

Was it a thrill for you ? Were you nervous and when the day comes and she calls and asks for dad good luck , lol..honestly it is what it is , risky sex ! I'd talk about other things if I was you , bet you'll have a much better time not that you didn't .....have a good day ....

Posted By: exit9
In my limited experience with providers (less than 10 so  far).. 2 have already told me that they do not use any birth control.. They figure why mess with hormones and they always practice safe sex, so who needs it..  
   
 I was shocked by this.. My little guys are still, theoretically, viable.. so the posibilities scare me to death.. and both of the providers are quite active as well..  
   
 Is this fairly common? I woulld have expected exactly the opposite.. To be so active with multiple partners would seem to be russian roulette.

There are people on TER just waiting out there to flame people for asking a simple (if somewhat naive) question.  That's one way they get their rocks off.  Don't let it bother you.  Ignore the trolls and they will go away when they don't get you to respond.  

My assumption is that all providers are on birth control, if they are not, they're stupid.  Condoms break.  Had one provider say "Now hammer me really hard, I don't care if the condom breaks, I'm on birth control."  That one made me think...

exit9774 reads

I find it very odd that there seem to be some on the General Board that use any excuse to behave badly. & flame someone.... makes no sense..
I had a question.. I keep seeing both of the providers that told me they take nothing,. and know that it IS their problem.. hopefully.. One has told me that BBFS may be OK with me because we are so close.. no way ! .. I don't get snipped because my wife & I never had kids and I kept thinking I might get divorced and have a kid.. Hell, with the revelation.. it still might happen..  yes Condoms ARE birth Control. but other methods are more reliable.. My parents used condoms and had 6 kids..  

Years ago, I participated in a golf forum and there were those that would jump down the throat of anyone that asked what they considered to be a dumb question.. everyone quit that forum and it closed down.. it takes so much energy to be nasty..  

Thanks for the support and the honest answers.. I will never ask a provider about the subject.. but in my case.. after many visits.. both volunteered the info.. I was only mildly curious.. I knowabout plan B.. and so on.. but that can't be good for a woman.. but probably better than a pregnancy..

-- Modified on 3/9/2014 1:45:37 PM

If kids is not something you want in your personal life with your SO/wife, why don't you go get sterilized, so you won't have to worry about impregnating someone.  

That's something you can really control. Whether a hooker is on BC or not, unfortunately you can't control.

The copper causes the egg the inability to attach to the uterine wall, preventing pregnancy.  

Three nice things about it are 1. the lower costs in the long run, ($1,100 for insertion, which some insurance companies will pay for 100%, vs. $3,600 of monthly prescriptions over ten years based on $30 / month prescription,) 2. No hormones involved, and 3. You don't have to worry about forgetting to take a pill. (Missing a dose brings the risk of getting preggo.)

Makes for a heavier and longer visit from Aunt Flo, but better than a ten month + lifetime visit from an unplanned child.  

It takes ten minutes for the GYNE to insert and doesn't involve a lot of pain. Suggested for ladies who have born children in the past. If you haven't given birth, ask you doctor of any risks involved. (I.e. IUD Becoming Dislodged).  

Probably not a good idea to not be on some kind of birth control if you can help it. :)

-- Modified on 3/9/2014 9:18:20 AM

but the side effects, IMO, are way better than what a hormone will do to you. If a period lasts longer - meh.

There are warnings for women who have not yet given birth, such as dislodgment. But that's within the first year of insertion I think, then the risk is much lower. If it gets dislodged it can damage the wall and cause infertility. Of course, I'm sure the percentage of risk is low for that.

OP talks about how common birth control is and you post that iud has no hormones,  fully addressing the reason why some use it over hormone birth controls.  Anonymous tard  then assumes it's a drug when iud is a device.  
Lmao

Then he pulls a vern and presses on about side effects like a thickheaded turd when the whole point is that there aren't hormone related side effects.  

Sure there are side effects in everything including water and food,  eat too much we get fat and we die,  drink too much we die.  

Anonymous fun is going for the SPOTY

You worded that much better lol. You hit the nail on the head.

gals (not necessarily providers) who got pregnant while on the pill.  I know not every provider is on birth control besides condom use...  It was freaky, when I was looking for cuddle time, she excused herself to the bathroom.  Thought nothing of it but she was gone longer than expected.  I mentioned it & she explained she tested condoms post play.  Presumably would have taken emergency measures if necessary.  
Personally, I'd be in favor of redundancy of Birth Control...  but not up to me.

Florida_Evans790 reads

Even if an accident happens, there is emergency birth control.  We know about all this stuff so don't be concerned about it.  We've been dealing with preventing pregnancy since before you came around.  BC messes up some people's body and causes high blood pressure, stroke, acne, all kinds of lovely problems.  Let her worry about her contraception.  She doesn't want to have a kid by _____ (insert random guy's name) and end up on Maury show.  It's bad for business lol.

But I'm on Lybrel. No periods for me, just the way I like it.  

I can totally understand not wanting to be on hormonal BC, though. It can have some pretty rough side effects.

I have never heard of Lybrel but I am on the Depo shot and also do not get a period =) Some people have side effects with the Depo but not me and I don't have to remember to take a pill every day.

I couldn't imagine myself relying solely on a condom. We are all human and human error or too rough of play could potentially lead to a broken condom. I would rather have the extra back up just incase.  

What other ladies are comfortable with is their prerogative.

-- Modified on 3/9/2014 2:40:56 PM

I'm talking about civvy girls I've been in a serious relationship with...  lol :

Regarding hormonal birth control (bcp's, etc) there are a variety if medical contraindications obviating a health care provider from prescribing them.  If a lady has a history of DVT, phlebitis, stroke, family history of abnormal blood clotting or stroke there is a much higher risk of complications. Sorry to say, smoking unfortunately potentiates that risk. Even some diaphragms with estrogenic chemicals in the ring result in systemic absorption and risk  
Personally, I give it very little if any thought unless it is obliquely discussed.  Certainly not upon first meeting! Lol

JackDunphy704 reads

Walk her over to the pharmacy. As your picking up your Viagra, show her all the other pills they have to offer. Hand her 9 bucks. She'll get the hint. Problem solved.  

And of course, walk thru Walmart briskly like you own the place and don't make eye contact. Those employees are trained to spot a john and his working girl from a mile away.

DollyHaze810 reads

Really, it is up to the individual to decide what kind of birth control is best for her, if she wants it or needs it.

Personally, I do not take hormonal birth control because the side effects outweigh the benefits. It kills my sex drive, makes me breasts hurt all the time, and makes me super irritable. I however do know how to use condoms correctly (i.e. squeeze out air bubbles and put lube in the tip!). I also have always had a super regular cycle and know if it's late by a day. And I had to have an ovarian cyst removed when I was a teenager, which means that one of my ovaries isn't firing on all four cylinders. I'm not saying these things make it impossible for me to become pregnant, but it makes me less likely to become pregnant, especially if a condom is used correctly.

I also keep a pack of Plan B on hand, just in case something breaks or slips off, so I can take it as soon as possible (that's only happened twice in my life). I have been sexually active since I was 16, and I have never had an unplanned pregnancy. That doesn't make me better than anyone, just educated, in touch with my body, and quite frankly lucky that I function in the way I do.

But if all else fails and I draw the short straw in life, I do know where my neighborhood Planned Parenthood is.

And if that comment offends any man reading this, may I suggest not having sex with any woman who is pro choice? (or not having sex with any woman who's stance on abortion is unknown to you). Or, at the very least, don't have orgasms inside her...perhaps stick to bjs ;)

I am dumbfounded that you actually ask and expect to be told the truth. Providers are in the business of telling lies, they will give you the answer they think you want to hear. Luckily you are just one of dozens they have sex with that week. The chances that the child is your s is slim. If however she is not on birth control and she gets pregnant and chooses to have your baby, well I would say you are screwed. Luckily that does not happen very often.

This whole thing is one big fantasy (more palatable than lie for the more sensitive) with barely modicums of truth sprinkled in, at least the first few times any hooker sees a trick.  

You want truth, get a real life girlfriend you are not paying to spend time with you.

Compare Effectiveness of Birth Control Options
Abstinence === (well, not that one lol.)
Birth Control Implant (Implanon and Nexplanon)
Birth Control Patch (Ortho Evra)
Birth Control Pills
Birth Control Shot (Depo-Provera)
Birth Control Sponge (Today Sponge)
Birth Control Vaginal Ring (NuvaRing)
Breastfeeding as Birth Control
Cervical Cap (FemCap)
Condom
Diaphragm
Female Condom
Fertility Awareness-Based Methods (FAMs)
IUD
Morning-After Pill (Emergency Contraception)
Outercourse
Spermicide
Sterilization for Women
Vasectomy
Withdrawal (Pull Out Method)

Mirena was the best choice I ever made.  

I am a mother of one. I wasn't providing when I had said child- but I knew I didn't want to do that again.
I myself would be shocked if a provider didn't use ANYTHING other than a rain coat.

 

Posted By: exit9
In my limited experience with providers (less than 10 so  far).. 2 have already told me that they do not use any birth control.. They figure why mess with hormones and they always practice safe sex, so who needs it..  
   
 I was shocked by this.. My little guys are still, theoretically, viable.. so the posibilities scare me to death.. and both of the providers are quite active as well..  
   
 Is this fairly common? I woulld have expected exactly the opposite.. To be so active with multiple partners would seem to be russian roulette.

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