If you knew a provider was making $10K a week and was on Medicaid, would you turn her in?

John

Why ponder the notion ? and how do you know her income level?

would you turn in a drug dealer for carying a gun?

would you turn in a driver who had no insurance?

would you tell your priest if you sucked a dick?

Medicaid, she is doing herself a big disservice.

Medicaid plans are horrible in most cases, offer limited coverage, poor choice and are mainly designed for those in dire need. Most medical facilities also offer low priority to Medicaid patients and doctors spend less time with them because government reimbursement rates are so low when compared to someone who pays cash or has private insurance.

If she makes $10K a week, she would be better off paying her taxes and getting a really good private insurance plan for less than a $1K a month depending on where she lives.

Sometimes it is possible to get "too smart" for your own good and I suspect this might be the case with her. The again, you can't fix stupid.

Seems to me like this has nothing to do with your relationship as a client vs. her being a provider.

Or correct me if I'm wrong.

So it doesn't bother you guys one bit to see someone who is seeing 3 or 4 guys a day at $300 each get food stamps, medicaid, subsidized housing, et al not only for her but for her kids as well while her husband does nothing? As a taxpayer, that kinda pisses me off. These programs are for the truly needy and I don't think she qualifies.

and why would you know about her Husband & kids?

if you don't want to pay taxes quit your job.

you're obviously TSTTT

Happens all the time. Family members, ex's and friends turn people in all the time. Usually they are told that the social service doesn't have time and resources to investigate unless you have physical proof. I guess to those who are unconcerned don't ever complain about how much you pay in for taxes.

It always amazes me how people paying for sexual favors can get all in a huff on some kinda moral grounds.
This world and it's so called rules are all make believe...we are on the holodeck imagining it's actually real.  Let people do what they want to do and learn their lessons.  You are clearly way too involved in this woman's personal life.

Imagine someone asking this question:

If you knew a guy was paying for sex would you turn him in?

Many people would...on moral grounds...and you'd be screwed...not in a good way...so unless you want people meddling in your affairs who are you to judge?  We never have all the information.

But in the end...um, we are doing something ILLEGAL ourselves by engaging in solicitation and patronization of a prostitute.

You wanna point out the splinter in someone else's eye?  Go right ahead.  Me?  I ain't so self-righteous.

Are you even gonna save $20 on this?

Ever heard of materiality?  It's a concept in accounting that basically means..."Why spend a buck to save a penny?"

lol can I get an AMEN?! Girl....all of this.

"let people do what they want to do"
How great would life be, if people would do that very thing.
Well put Starr. ( an attitude like yours, makes the world a better place )
That from someone who was judged, EVERY DAY, in his marriage. ( judgement destroys good people )

... its just not worth my time to worry about it. As an overall societal problem, I agree. However, on an individual basis nothing I do personally is going to change the system, and I'm certainly not going to play the snitch. Nothing I hate more.

As a medical professional who deals with lot of medicaid and medicare... i think they should have medicaid or medicare because doctors, treatment is very expensive. lot of them do not make that much in a month. There is no stable income in this biz.  Medicaid comes in handy if they have minor kids or the person itself has some known and unknown serious medical conditions. I beleive almost all the providers are on medicaid or medicare disability in some instances. Providers are certainly not the people you want to target because they probably constitute a small percentage of the people who take advantage of this. Can you imagine the america without medicaid and medicare?.    

are you there to fuck her or judge her?

land of rats, snitches , whistle blowers and people sticking their nose into other people's business.

man up buddy !

I know the feeling my friend

Exactly...It could be turned around very quickly, to where he/we are judged as well.

I would never turn a provider in for being provider, or a drug dealer for being a drug dealer, I pay $2000/month in taxes to support
Programs like this.  There are so may people scamming these programs that people get wait listed.  I'd rather
Her nock of my  bank at least it wouldn't cost me personally.  If she was bragging about fraud I'd turn her in.  Taxes are out taxes are out of control because of shit like this.
I have turned people in and will again, but I work in medicine where I see fraud daily.  If your dumb enough
To brag about your fraud don't be shocked when somebody does something about it!!!!
Laws are meant to be broken but defrauding our welfare system takes the kinda person that does not mind
Taking the food out of someone else's mouth,  ya might want to leave your micheal Korrs purse at home with
Your 500 dollar heels before trying to use Medicaid in my office.

You are making the assumption that the OP is either telling the truth or that the provider is telling the truth. She says that her income is $10,000 per week, I doubt that.
Second I don't believe she is on Medicaid either. This whole thing sounds fabricated or elaborated.
You can't be that dumb that you believe everything said here is accurate.
I see fraud everyday in my job as well, BTW.

I see seeing a provider as a moral decision, unless I am seeing someone under age we are both consenting adults and can make our own choices. I am paying her with money I earned, not cheating on my taxes to get money for this.
    Medicare fraud is an ethical question and says alot about your values, especially if you can afford real insurance. Food stamps and welfare programs are the same thing. You are hurring others by lying and cheating the same thing. People who need these programs are turned away because each day.
     You've heard the talk about a cashless system? Everyone has a ebt card.... The big arguement is that it wil stop tax cheats and fraud. I dont even want to thing what it would do for this hobby and illegal drugs. I dont want some crack head robbing my for something he could trade for a rock. And paying a provider with a flat screen tv might not work, much less taking her to walmart for her weekly shopping.
    I would not turn in someone, but someone will and it is surprising who does it most times.
              Sorry got a bit long there

i agree, if what is being said about her is true, it's wrong.
but i doubt this thread is legit.
10,000/wk..........not!

I vote for change regularly,  it does not change the fact that many abuse the system.  And abuse is everywhere.  If the OP is speaking the truth or not does not matter, as my response is to what if a provider, or anyone for that matter is defrauding the government.  Best not to brag, $$$ can motivate others to turn you in as well

Lungman resents Women.

What was it a arranged marrige, or was it a shot gun wedding?

You proposed to the Lady didn't you?  give it up this is an awshucks fake persona.

A ladies ethics and integrity are what keep me safe from drama. If she is conning the goverment sh has nether and likely would turn on me.

I signed up to receive medicaid benefits once because of back issues...(this was long before I was a provider)...the process was invasive, lengthy and took months to get approved...once approved, I could get almost NO services.  When I did try to get my back looked at by a professional (this was all after exhausting my own funds on drs, xrays, and the whole time being treated like a drug seeker, no one gave me any answers) I was waitlisted for 6 months...during that time I healed myself through diet and holistic care including chiropractic, acupuncture, massage and being active...but the main thing was diet.
After everything I went through, I never was able to use those medicaid "benefits."

For regular check-ups I go to planned parenthood...they are inexpensive and thorough.
I pay out of pocket for all my medical expenses...but I pay a lot more for preventative maintenance like organic produce and massage...which keeps my medical expense super low.

See my comment above in the thread: sigh...morals.


If you would only see a provider with ethics, there wouldn't be anyone to see.  By nature of the beast, this profession falls under "non-ethical"

I do personally feel that laws are make-believe and we may be subject to government consequences by failing to keep ourselves safe and our business private, but under Universal laws, all is allowed.
I do also consider myself a person with integrity...I may have my own view of it as of course many people would consider my profession to not be intregrous.

But going against these so called man made laws, one is not worse than the other, it's all relative.  It seems to me you should like your provider to have health care at the ready, by whatever means needed...I personally do not see medicaid as a value and don't use it.  I've tried in the past when I really did need it and the whole process is invaisive and almost useless.  In fact, I want the govt in my life as little as possible and sucking off their teet does not lend to a lack of meddling...but on the other hand, we don't have the whole story on anyone's life so we can't judge.

I see seeing a provider as a moral decision, unless I am seeing someone under age we are both consenting adults and can make our own choices. I am paying her with money I earned, not cheating on my taxes to get money for this.
   Medicare fraud is an ethical question and says alot about your values, especially if you can afford real insurance. Food stamps and welfare programs are the same thing. You are hurring others by lying and cheating the same thing. People who need these programs are turned away because each day.
    You've heard the talk about a cashless system? Everyone has a ebt card.... The big arguement is that it wil stop tax cheats and fraud. I dont even want to thing what it would do for this hobby and illegal drugs. I dont want some crack head robbing my for something he could trade for a rock. And paying a provider with a flat screen tv might not work, much less taking her to walmart for her weekly shopping.
   I would not turn in someone, but someone will and it is surprising who does it most times.
             Sorry got a bit long there

If you knew about a guy offering a girl $$$ to have sex with him, would you turn him in?

WTF is the difference?  Illegal is illegal.

I appreciate everyone's feedback. Not sure yet how this will work out.

This provider tours every other week per se. She arrives one weekend and leaves the next. Let's say she averages 4 clients a day at $350 each times 9 working days, that's about $12.6K/week. Less expenses, she probably nets $10K. Since she works every other week, that's two weeks a month, that $20K/month net, $240K/year.

Now, would it matter to you if she was not filing her federal or state income taxes? Would it matter to you if she was taking the $ out of the country? Just wondering because this is what's happening!

Now, what level of illegal activity is worth turning in? Prostitution usually is a misdemeanor depending upon the location. Welfare fraud is a felony. So how do you equate one crime versus another in your decision to alert the authorities?

All too often we see or hear about crimes where law enforcement is hampered because no one saw anything; no one wants to get involved.

We can deduct that through her Medicaid she is getting tested. Left to her own devices of paying for healthcare, she may not be as diligent. Her use, or in your terms abuse, of the system is also a public safeguard.

one way or another honey. There is no way in hell she is making 40k a month, so me thinks you're full of shit and you pulled that number out of your ass. You are only allowed a certain mortgage or rent payment to even qualify for such services, and it's not much. 40k a month would pay off a home in less than a year, so I call bs. You don't know what any provider is making...period.

Do I think those making over the limit should take advantage of the system? Hell no, but it is done every day by many people in various professions. If she is broke and can't feed her kids from providing, she very well should get the help. If she is spending her money on drugs and bs, well the damn kids still have to eat regardless of what a nut mamma is. I think you should mind your own business and stop being so jealous. You sound like a fkin girl.

And you have absolute proof of what you're saying here?

Even so, how would you like some video vigilante filming you coming out of a hotel well known for hookers and place it on youtube or worse got your tags and found out who you were and then called home and mentioned it to your wife?

Mind your own business. If she is a fraud, then she will slip up and get hers. You do this, then watch your own ass, because unless you live a spotless life, you might be next. Hang on, if you hobby you are no better than her...you are breaking the law.

-- Modified on 9/23/2012 6:01:07 PM

Did you start writing the post when you just dropped the acid, and finish during a flashback? I call bs on this entire thread! If she had money at all or insurance, why the hell would she ask you for it?  Did you not say she was making 10k a week? Did you not say she was on Medicaid? So, now we see you're just pissed off that some hooker took you, and wanted to make her out to be involved in fraud. Sorry, you're a dumb ass and not for giving her the money, but for what happened after.

Taxes pay more for that, so wtf...at least the damn government is paying some of her stuff vs. all of it like many others. With Medicaid, the child will also get the required procedures, check ups, etc. without waiting for an emergency to happen like most without any coverage. That in itself costs billions a year. As someone in the Admin. arena of Healthcare, I can tell you that fraud is the biggest issue we face today, but it is not from the damn single moms...try the clinics that set up for business when they are not seeing any patients and getting paid for services they never performed!

The bottom line is that I have been seeing this provider for quite some time now. She was recently hospitalized for several days. As she doesn't have insurance, she asked for money to pay her medical bills of which I complied. A couple of days after I deposited the funds in her account she called and asked for more. She was broke again. I offered to assist but only if I paid the vendors directly versus putting more money into her account. She declined and since that time has not responded to my calls nor texts. I understand that she has applied and has been approved for medicaid in a state in which she does not reside but tours in. I am certain that the money I put in her account went south to Mexico to her husband.

I want to thank you guys for your input on this thread and ultimately my stupidity. I needed to hear each and every comment that was posted. I don't think I'll turn her in and just chock this up to one of life's lessons. After all, it's only money, which was well spent to learn the true nature that lies within this individual. I am certain that life will equalize.

No Ms Rayne, not the case I assure you.

She works about every other week. She sends her earnings to her husband in Mexico. He has their kids. He doesn't work. She's a US citizen. He was deported. She has no insurance. She got sick and spent about a week in the hospital. Rather than pay her bill, she applied for and got medicaid. Simply put, she doesn't want to use her money for this when she can get out of paying for it. She has no US assets. I learned this during the fact. Make sense now?

So...when you turn her in, will you be explaining the nature of your relationship to the Federal representative??? Because they will find out how you know.

So, as a Citizen concerned about proper use of tax benefits like Medicaid, you would like to shit all over someone who:

Because of our shitty immigration policies has lost her husband and kids. He will either not work, or can't find work, because...idk...it's fucking Mexico and they aren't any jobs....that's why they keep coming here.

So any who...this woman, in an effort to support them, fucks strange men for money, and then flips that cash to her kids and Hubby in Mexico...

and you think that somehow she is undeserving of a little free hand out???

Keep your own money in your pocket...Let the system do what it does...and walk away from this woman.

-- Modified on 9/24/2012 2:09:52 AM

I didn't read the whole thread, but this is a serious case of bull shit. This gent is seriously wreckless.  
Please tell me I am wrong in my assumption.
I mean, wtf? I take threats to turn someone in to LE
EXTREMELY Seriously.

K, here are some better questions. If you knew a guy that was cheating on his wife with hookers, spending family $$ on them and taking time away from his employer to post shit like this online, would you turn him in?!  MYOB!  NO ONE here has a moral ground to stand on!  

about what she is doing, but I do think her POS deadbeat husband is the one who needs to be reported. Her children need to eat, a rood over their head, etc. So if she is dumb enough to support him over her children, CPS is the call that needs to be made. I would never put my nose in another woman's family though, so that's that. Regardless of what she is going outside of the hobby, what she did to YOU was hobby related and needs to stay here. You need to post alerts on her ( I can give you a board to do so publicly where guys can read it and she can reply), and post reviews of an ROB. Leave her bs family issues alone, and hurt her here...not out there.

How would the guys feel if we called the cops when you did this same shit to us? I won't call the cops over money...physical violence is the only thing that would make me take that step. It seems this woman also tours my area, but I have never seen any alerts about her on the board Nola caters to. I am going to suggest he take it there, where he can out her provider persona and nothing else.

Her going around ripping guys off is one thing, but feeding you a sob story and you buying it is another. YOU gave her the money...should not have done that. You can't exactly get all pissed off when you were the one who gave it willingly. Chalk it up to feeding her children for a week, and move on. Getting LE and the IRS involved is something a person in her personal life should do, not you...you're a client.

For personal reasons, as I stated previously, I take threats of LE very seriously as well as any type of outing.
I am most sensitive to threats of safety and the like. I am surprised more posters did not see the absurdity of this
Post by the OP. He is ridiculous.   absolutely absurd.

Let's come back down to reality.

Scratch 10k a month.  Exclude any amount, it doesn't matter.

The question should be do you have a problem with providers receiving government aid?

Not sure how I feel about this.
I work 2 jobs and hoe on the side so yeah, I feel bitter about a bitch with a nice incall that happens to be funded by my tax dollars (Section 8 housing).  

But I can't cast stones, I'm not reporting my hoe dollars anyway.......

about what a lady makes?

Just because you have this illusion she sees 4 guys a day doesn't make it real.  There are lots of high priced ladies who look elegant and beautiful but only get a couple dates a MONTH.

So kind of you to presume to know her situation.