Hasn't stopped my flow though.

I still screen and I still decline anonymous appointments.  I'm considerably less high strung about it than I used to be though.  In the past I'd freak out with this indignant "how dare you!" attitude but now my line of thinking is the client wants it his way and I want it my way.  If we can't come to a reasonable agreement and find a non-invasive way of screening him that allows both of us to feel safe we can respectfully end our communication.  No harm, no foul.

I don't think I've lost much compared to what I'd lose if I were arrested and splashed in the papers or if I were hurt or killed.

A lot of women are doing anything for a dollar and thats fine.  Don't fret about it.

I'd really like some feedback on my subject.

I know it's a buyer's market. However, has everyone lost their mind? YOU don't care who it is you see if it's expedient. SHE doesn't care who she sees if it's dollars? No info, last minute, in, out, no info?

Please, as one who cares about who I give my intimate most self to I'd like some honest feedback.

LE hasn't stopped. Why should I? It's for your benefit that I'm discerning.

Sincerely,
Anneke

It is just not worth it to not check references or not to ask for them.If a lady does not ask for reference she should have some way to verify that this gent who is contacting her is who he says he is.
All money is not good money this is the main reason why I do not do last minute appointments there is just not enough time.I usually will not even do same day appointments for this very reason not enough time to check references etc.My only exceptions is if a gent is P411/Date-Check members with okays then I can do same day appointments.Another exception is a gent who is a TER VIP member with a review history and whitelisting especially if it is ladies I know who whitelisted the gent I can also do same day appointments in these cases as well.
However a lady contacts her business is her business if she does not ask for info or references that is her choice.I value my safety and want to know I am dealing with a gent who is legit and not a nut or someone I do not want to see.
Just my .02

Well, I'm one hobbyist who wants ladies to screen, but it may be easy for me to say.  I'm not a "last minute" guy.  If someone needs time to check me out, that's ok.  Have you been running into a string of idiots recently?  Is that a general trend, ladies?

What are you basing your comment on?

I wouldn't dream of not screening. At some point I want a much different career, and I can't imagine the stigma and legal complications that follow a prostitution arrest, not to mention the embarrassment and familial consequences. While I understand screening isn't a sure thing, it definitely helps put me more at ease.

I do consider myself newbie friendly, but work info or provider references have to check out before I see someone. I do get a bit skeeved out when I can't find much of a web presence on a reference...  it's hard to accept a reference from someone on a forum I'm not a part of, without a google-able ad or website. :/

While I am relatively new to 'official' providing, it is saddening to feel as though I've entered the biz at a time of major trade-offs and loosening of important boundaries and safeguards.   I still plan on maintaining my standards, both safety-wise and in terms of providing consistently excellent service without compromising my health or legal status.

I've not been aware of providers not screening anymore. Many have said in the last few days they will screen even more stringently now because of the BBFS issue. What makes you ask if no one is screening anymore?

though in general most ladies on these boards and others appear to be screening in some way or another. I screen thoroughly using various methods and turn down more than I see. It is not worth the risk.  I'm not interested in making $80 for a 15 minute quick appointment for some random unscreened guy at incall. Or even $450 an hour with an unscreened guy at a luxury hotel. I have to be comfortable with the information given to me (from whatever source) to go out on the visit.

I do see newbies - quite a few actually - HOWEVER they have to be willing to give up certain information (and, I provide them choices) and that information has to 100% line up and be verifiable without glitches before I will schedule with them.

Have fun and play safe!

Summer

I met plenty guys in public before weather quickie or 350 hour appt at my luxury hotel instead of him having to jump through emails who didn't want screening but will verify other ways, I've even went down and met them at a bar.

I def don't screen every call nor have to screen every call considering not every call is GFE (main concern for screening since i offer some gfe services) or same service but doesn't have nothing to do about the extra $$$ or I'm not worried about LE. I just run my business different.

Not every girl sits paranoid about LE. Ive been in the business going on 3 years conducting business how i have and still doing Great even without screening every single person, not saying I'm not paranoid about LE, but i do do business different then screening every single person.

(This is when i first started, a lot my clientele is built up from over the past or word-of-mouth)

Networking got me way further in this business and getting in good with some places more then screening every client, to be honest.

I see it as, its their business and how they choose to conduct it from 8O$ dollars no screening to 450 no screening to 100 quickies screening, its up to them how they run it, if it works for them how they do it, more kudos to them.. i know some ladies in this industry 7+ years who screen every blue moon, tour, and never had a run in with LE. Everyone handles their business different. Just keep that in mind.


I screen more for the GFE part rather than the LE part.

I am Not a big player.  I an a newbe by most sense of the game.  I choose who I try to see.  I have yet to be screened.  I have never been turned down. I have never been asked for screening info.  I would never give out the type of info that most screening providers ask.  So I do not go there.  If I called and was asked for it I would politely turn it down the event.  It is your right to have rules it is my right to not obey.

With 16 reviews under your belt it just MIGHT be possible the ladies don't need you to list references!?  Some probably made a few discreet calls. Others likely let your history speak for itself.


It may only be the first few ladies you saw who may have done less screening, traced your number, etc. Or perhaps you have forgotten what info you gave up back in the day.

If you're too Goddam dense to know who the hell I am I don't wanna see you.

no just as i said.  no screening.  non traceable phone. and have never had to drop a TER Handle.

I hope you never get that provider that doesn't screen and you wind up in the room with a cop or in a grab the cash and run or you get robbed and worked over. If she doesn't care to screen and keep herself safe then she won't care about you.
Chances are now they( the providers) are looking at TER and seeing who you see assuming you give them any info at all. If not then I hope you remain as lucky as you have been so far.

I looked at your reviews and downloaded them as thay are books I will study them and get back to you.

She specializes in kinky BDSM where she puts cuffs on you and takes you to her dungeon, photographs you and makes you pay a whopping fine and ruins your reputation.

Her name is Ellie, if anyone is wondering.

1. Not a buyer's market.

2. Do I screen yes? I do mine is rather light compared to some and I offer many ways to screen but i still do. I've passed off MANY appts because they didn't want to give into even the lightest screening esp since I've went to Email Only.

3. If they don't want to give into even the lightest screening their loss is how I see it. I WANT money but I don't confuse it for need.

I dunno who everyone is but reel back the hostility just a lot.

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All backpage girls, mostly rated 4-7 by him, with one 8 and three 9s. A bunch of TOFFTs. These are the type of girls who are likely to not screen. Dangerous for them, Lucky for him that nothing has happened, but it is what it is. If he tried to see different types of providers, ("higher end, websites, TER presense) they would probably require screening and he likely would not see them as he mentioned.

Having said all that, I have seen some higher end ladies who did no screening on me. I will post another post on that in this thread.

On another note, to marty, thanks for doing a lot of TOFFT and being the first review for many ladies. That takes some balls. (or stupidity) but somebody has to do it, and most guys won't, myself included. My hat is off to you for that.

Got the feel before this thread. What he does with it is up to him.

First of all, sorry for the alias but I don't want people jumping to my review history and trying to figure out who does or doesn't screen. And I would like to say that even if I posted under my real handle, that the three ladies I am talking about may not even be ladies I reviewed. I do not review every provider I have seen. I still feel better posting this under alias though.

First lady: she has a visiting ad on EROS. I check her website, and send her an email saying I want to see her, and offereing to send her screening info later. She emails back, "When do you want to see me and for how long?" I email back "tomorrow for two hours." she emails back "5:00 pm" I email okay, and she emails me her phone number to call her at 4 pm. The date goes well. She becomes a reference for me for future providers. I never gave her screening info, nor was I asked for any. I was actually willing to give up my real name and some client info so she could check references as I am self employed. But, I was never asked for anything. She had my first name which may or may not have been real, and my hobby email address, which if you google it, you get zilch.

Second one: Another visiting my city. I email with questions, "What is your visiting rate? Do you have incall while here? and what type of screening do you?" Sher emails me back the rate and says she has incall, and tells me to let her know when I want to set up something. No screening info. Through a second email and a phone call we set up a date, that turns out awesome. she also becomes one of my future references and okays me on p411.

Third one: Pretty similar circumstances. Email contact. "Hi I would like to meet you, what do you require for references, My name is Bob, I am a middle aged gentleman, I own my own small business." Reply: "When do you want to see me and for how long?" Couple more emails set up a time and place. Another awesome date. Another reference and p411 okay. and repeat dates.

Funny all three of these ladies are well reviewed on TER. All of them say they absolutely require screening. None of them did any kind of screening on me. And no, they didn't have my TER info or P411 info or anything other than my email address. I used two of them to become a P411 member. Funny none of them screened me, but they all became screening references for me.

I'm still not sure what the op is talking about that "no one" is screening anymore. I keep seeing posts from guys grumbling about too much screening, and not wanting to give out information, and from newbies asking how to get started, with no references. So obviously, a lot of ladies do screen and some more heavily than others, but by my own experience, even some that say they do...don't. Personally I want to get screened. I feel safer and the lady should feel safe with me.

I have several friends who are providers and they have not lowered their screening requirements. They have no intentions of compromising their safety to take on an additional client....in many cases they are turning down appointments if they are not 100% comfortable with the situation.

I can think of 4 that'll see me tomorrow if I blew into town and they didn't have previous engagements.

I mean, God forbid I'd hate to put a bro out in the cold...

" You must be some pretty important dude, the way you talk."

  It's not just the important guys who aren't screened.

I am rarely screened . When I'm screened it's always a provider not in the loop .
  She hasn't heard how hot I am.

Sorry for the alias , it's bad enough keeping up with providers requests to see me.
 

If your definition by the caliber of a lady is determined by what she charges by the hour initially, I'll just say the one's I've seen started at $300 for the first and I NEVER see a lady for less than 2 hours.

Just my presence on this site warrants enough screening. That doesn't come from me, BTW, if you get my drift...

But for shits and grins, I have talked with some ladies with the full intention of seeing them not soon enough. Asked what they want me to do as far their screening process and was told I'm done. Just give them a call when I roll into town.

Yeah, kinda gives me the warm fuzzies too...

not hatin' here!  "BP Girls" can rock it. But....

Soon as you start seeing some ladies that require screening and ask for another benjamin you'll enter that fabulous world of the 9/10.

Now THAT is where the fun is!


HH

Refresh my memory, just who are you, anyway?

You must be some pretty important dude, the way you talk.

Posted By: MP67

If you're too Goddam dense to know who the hell I am I don't wanna see you.

and I stear clear of anyone who does not screen or who refuses to be screened...

I arranged to meet someone new to me (but not new to the biz or my area) and used D-C. I didn't realize until after that she never checked my profile.

I didn't provide any other info that could be checked so I can only assume she relied on the D-C format in my email as "proof". It wasn't a last minute scheduling thing, either. There was plenty of time in between.

A little unsettling. The appt. worked out quite nicely but it is making me wonder about her practices.

With just your email and/or phone number, we often can pull up a lot of information about you, both your hobbyist identity, and your real identity.  

Yes, you can actively hide your info, and make up new email addresses, and get new phones to avoid this, but honestly, most of you don't.  You generally use the same email address for all of your 'personal' stuff, and you often use the same screenname across many boards.  The vast majority of you are quite easy to find online, even if you don't give us your name.  This previously has been discussed ad nauseum on this very board.

Don't be so sure these girls aren't screening you.  They may well be, and you just don't know it.  My general MO is that I first look for everything I can find starting with your email address and phone number.  Often, I find everything I need, and I don't need to bother you for more info.  If you are one of those guys who goes all secret-agent with your contact info, or if you're a newbie, THEN I write you back and specifically request references and/or additional info.  But frankly I just don't need to ask many men because they're easy enough to track with the info I already have.

I feel the need to use an alias for the same reasons. After my first few encounters, all of the providers I've seen require screening according to their ads and websites. I used my 2nd ever seen provider as a reference for the next 2 ladies I saw. According to her, neither of these ladies ever contacted her. I used these 2 providers to establish my date-check and P411 accounts. Ever since, I have given out my DC and P411 account info to EVERY lady I've seen. I have seen 16 different providers total. My DC account has been viewed once by these providers, and my P411 account twice. I have seen 9 providers currently listed on the overall top 100 and only 1 of them actually viewed my accounts. I have given out my TER handle to a few who specifically asked, so I guess they could use that as well ... but I would think DC and P411 would be more reliable since anyone can open a TER account. I would prefer the ladies to screen, but it looks like its pretty inconsistent to me.

This is so true. I don't think many of the gentlemen realize how extensive our screening is at times. As for me I won't see a newbie. The screening process for a newbie is so intensive that many won't give up the information and thats fine.

We have everything we need most of the time through your reviews. The other sites give us alot of information also if you are registered on them. We do email who you have seen in the past and ask questions believe it or not. But if you aren't willing to divulge anything about yourself and think you can just get an appointment with most of us you are sadly mistaken. We do protect ourselves and each other. Just as you gentlemen comment about TOFTT...thats not an option as far as most of us are concerned. It isn't worth our safety or heartache.

Although there are plenty of girls out there who don't do any screening and that scares me to death knowing that they are putting their lives on the line everytime they open the door, they are also putting your life on the line too. If you have absolutely nothing to lose in this life then go ahead and keep on practicing these unsafe adventures. Myself, I believe its part of my job to keep you and me safe so I'm going to keep turning guys down because they have unsafe behavior. Thats just my opinion....

Any more pointers and secrets you want to post public? Think before you type.

Fuckin' sucks to be us sometimes. Ladies constantly throwing their pussies at you...

'Pick me! Pick me!'...

I'm just one guy. Give me a break. I'll get around to you, alright?...

Possibly I didn't phrase this right - I was more referring to how she runs her business. If someone is interested in running a factory of people through for an $80 quickie they most likely are not as quick to do a thorough screening as maybe someone that prebooks.  My point is that no matter what the dollar amount involved it's not worth NOT screening someone new in someway. As many ladies have stated, there are many non invasive ways to screen..........

And frankly, I'd rather that the guy KNOW that I AM screening, then think - erroneously - that I'm not.

You think that just because of my post more guys are gonna start actively hiding?  I disagree.  This topic is WAY to ubiquitous on this board to give my comment that much credit.

BUT EVEN IF some guy reads my post and says "oh, yea, I'm gonna start using different email accounts for all of my different board memberships," as long you're screening properly, it doesn't matter.  If someone is so screening-phobic that they go to those lengths, are you going to see them, given what I assume are your stringent screening requirements?  Some girls will, sure, but the girls on this board who are the most worried about it are likely to screen out those types. (These are the same girls who constantly claim to turn down more clients than they accept, right?  lol).

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Screen me or don't. I don't give a shit. I read her reviews, and friends turn me on to them also.

I've called a lady on a Saturday night, told her it was 'MP67' and saw her the next day. She didn't ask for my info. Just said 'I know who you are', and it was on. What she did with her time from when I called till we met was up to her as far as checking my references.

Been told by other ladies I want to meet when I ask them what they want me to do. They tell me 'You're good. Call me when you come to town.'

I'm assuming this is a result of back channeling on the PO board or when they get together for their mocha-chinos and shop for shoes, I don't know. Works for me.

Lmao and she plays far from nice.thats one  bitch I stay far away from.

to read my reviews. I'm not sure what that will tell you in regard to this discussion unless you're looking to see if I was screened. I can tell you that there is nothing in my reviews that would let you know that for certain or if I was how it was done. There is information there that would lead you to correctly assume I was screened. But you would have figured that out from my post. I await with interest your "getting back to me".

You say "We have everything we need most of the time through your reviews." Well that means you have a TER handle. That is a form of screening. If you have an email address, or phone number that turns up results in google, that is a form of screenig. I realize there are all kinds of ways to screen. But if I email you from bob@xmail .com and say "hi my name is bob," and my email is not searchable, then you have nothing. Basically this is all the information I gave the ladies I talked about in my post.

Now I have P411 and DC and ter whitelist, and I want to be screened, but if you don't ask for any of that, then you have nothing. I'm not afraid of giving out my real name and information to a well reviewed stable girl, and was willing to give that informaton before I got the other screeing site memberships but I was not asked for anything.

Again i am not saying noone is screening anymore, but some obviously do not. (and I'm not talking about $80 bp girls

you are not going to find any information on me from my email address.  I do not have a high profile on the internet. I have googled (and yahooed and binged...) my name, phone numbers, email addresses, and come up with zero hits. I guess in some ways that is good. that means there is nothing bad out there on me either. Is that what you do? Google the info and if nothing bad comes up, then he must be good?

And I am not trying to hide. I am willing to give out a lot of information to be screened. Even personal stuff, However, some ladies do not ask for any of it, and all they have is my email address that I sent the email from (which comes up blank) and my first name.

but without the ter rules my 7 would be a ten in some cases.  Remeber the worst sex I have had was still fantastic.

That IS screening my friend. Giving them your TER handle is all the screening most ladies need. They have your reviews, your posts, your reputation. It's all out there. You can't say they are not screening you if they know you are MP67. No screening means you call someone you have never seen and say "Hi my name is Mike" and they tell you come over without a clue as to who you are.

I respect you for posting without using aliases, but for me, I choose to use an alias for certain posts, not to hide behind, and attack people, but usually to protect the ladies I wrote reviews on.

MP......I also know providers that I can call sight unseen and get an appointment with as well..and with your rep MP I know that you can do the same.....but the majority of the providers that I know will require some screening from a hobbyist that is not known to them.....Reagan, Carla, Alyssa, Eve, Tawny, Kate, Allie, Jessica, Elina etc will not simply book an appointment based on a random email or phone call from a new guy.

There are always exceptions to the rule but most of the ladies I know still screen.

Too big a risk for my liking.

Last minute appointments are not working out like they did a few months ago. A few Sunday's ago I called 5 BP providers, none were available. My buddy faced the same. We use to to be able to wait 30 to 90 minutes before an appointment in the DC area not anymore.

I had to end up seeing a provider that I had seen before a few days later.

Guess thats why Im twittling my own twat!!   But thank god for family!  Although I dont have too many problems with men wanting to screen in the mid west.  There very nice. I will never slack on screening. It may not keep every nut away but it it keeps most of them. if they dont want to scren there crazy. because one it will come back bite them in the ass. Just my thoughts!!