I would like both ladies and hobbyists thoughts on this topic as I'm sure some may have done this or experienced it at some point. I have a problem with a client who has begun to take advantage of my kindness by thinking it's okay to stay over time every time. Yes I have had a great time with the client over the months and I let him stay over time for 2 extra hours a few times for free. But as the months have passed, he feels entitled to this extra time. It has now gone from the 2 hours to asking for 10 hours. I now feel my kindness is being taken advantage of. All at my 2 hour minimum rate. The man even gets mad at me for scheduling other clients on the same day I'm supposed to see him when he expects free time and gets mad if I cut the appointment to the length of time all my clients are expected to leave. This is supposed to be a business transaction not a charity hour for himself to put it brutally honest. He has also tried asking for a new way to pay my rate, which would turn into paying whatever he felt like as if he was a sugar daddy. I'm not okay with that so I said no. Recently he told me he would leave during the appointment since I was not okay seeing him for an overnight appointment at this 2 hour rate. He told me my actions are over the top and he would go see another provider. His lack of disrespect, manipulative tactics, and not compensating me for these huge lengths of my time piss me off. Is this a good client gone bad or am I missing something in the communication process? I'm all for talking things out but I'm not sure if this is one of those situations where I can fix it?

to stop seeing him. I would tell him we had some great moments but it's time to move on to greener pastures. No need for the aggravation in my opinion. I am pretty sure we have all been there. It's best to cut ties sooner rather than later

I would leave this guy alone.If he is getting mad at you over YOUR time and not paying you for the extra time it sounds like a guy who thinks you are his sugar baby not an escort.
If a provider chooses to let a gent stay over without paying then she is being very generous to do so.
That does not mean to take advantage of the situation.
He clearly does not respect your time.
If you have had to tell him more than once that he has overstayed his time and he has not paid you anything extra to compensate for the additional time.Time to move on.
And he should not be getting mad at you regarding your other clients that is not his business.

Drop him immediately, you don't need that kind of aggravation. I feel sorry for the woman who gets involved with this guy IRL, sounds like an entitled, egomaniacal, misogynistic bottle-fed douchenozzle.

You are partially at fault here. You train people how you expect to be treated, and in this case you "trained" this client to think his actions were acceptable until finally he started asking (demanding) "too much", even by your low standards.

There's no fixing this. He's going to keep pushing and he's probably done it before and will do it to the next lady who gives him an inch.  

Make an exception for fatboy?

That's what I mean In the Other thread. OTC time=Lines Got Blurred

a "man" again and how he reiterates he likes ggs only) lol.  

You're right, I probably have trained this guy to treat me this way, unknowingly. I guess I wasn't aware of the signals I was giving this guy. I've never thought of myself as a gf/sb since I was only okay with the extra time every now and then, if I'm enjoying myself during those particular appointments. When you give someone an inch they'll take a mile in this hobby haha.

I suggest reading up on the subject, thusly:

There are plenty more men out there. If he's not even buying you gifts or anything, you have to move on because he can't handle it. It would be different if you gladly enjoyed it, and it was mutual, but that's not what it sounds like in your op. Don't be mean about it, just be conveniently unavailable. And he's there when you need the funds or during slow seasons.

For once everyone agrees on this board . Should be a sign to say goodbye to the guy.

We teach people how to treat us. I remember someone going out of their way to offer up clients to me. I felt weird about it, but they kept insisting. I noticed they then started to get upset at me about it. Over time, if someone offered me something, I said, "no thank you, I will do my own work." The initial intention was good on their part, but I didn't want to be blamed later on for the favor they strongly offered. I remember thinking, hey, you offered and I said no, but you insisted. I didn't ask for it. But instead, I decided to leave it alone and simply work on a non business friendship, which was what I wanted in the first place. It works better when you either keep it business, or keep it personal. It is strongly encouraged everywhere, and rarely works out for good.

Don't explain, don't complain.  Just stop taking his calls and emails.  You were foolish to let it get this far.  I hope he has no personal information of yours.

Geez, girl, how do you pay your bills?
Even just two hours of free time is A LOT!!

most of us when we talk about OTC we usually refer to 10, 20 heck even 30 min but 2 hours.. thats just plain abuse.

Tell him you know he booked two hours but you also know he will be available for a few hours after and you have two gay clients that will be bye who have paid you to have him give them each a BBJ as you have promised knowing he would be hanging around on your time

It's been a slow two months with unexpected bills for me (which has done me no favors), and constant touring is a PITA for me with my responsibilities at the moment so I've sucked it up and tolerated his BS until now. I guess the income from him is no longer worth it.

Pathetic.  This one has nothing to do with some simple OTC time in the room or at dinner.  And no connection with what I or others I know do.  Are you a lawyer in Philadelphia?

but this guy is a moocher...  dump him...

Now I don't disagree that by wanting/expecting a 10 hour date when he paid for 2 is greedy and unfair.  But this quoted passage from your op makes me feel there is a little more at work here than just a jump from 2 hours of mutually agreed upon fun to a 10 hour ultimatum.

It sounds like this client has well overstepped his bounds and thus is not a good client. If I were you when he said "my actions are over the top and he would go see another provider", this would have been a good opportunity for you to say "that might be a good idea, as this doesn't seem to be working for either of us". You may want to tell him that he shouldn't confuse your kindness as stupidity.

I completely agree that I should've let him go when he mentioned seeing another provider. His entitlement has gone overboard and I'm done. I've always appreciated it when people did nice/generous things for me even in this industry and remembered their thoughtfulness in that moment. I didn't realize that being nice/generous in this business a few times to a client would lead to being taken advantage of on the regular. You learn new things every day haha.

For the regular, run of the mill session, there's never any issues. But every once in awhile, you make a stellar connection, and the OTC lines blur. In my situation I've been asked by many different ladies, anything and everything OTC. Two ladies even wanted to start OTC relationships. When OTC happens, it's a very flattering experience, and can even be a bit addictive. I have to be honest here. When it happens, those ladies go directly to the top of my list. Call it bang for your buck or whatever, what normal gentleman wouldn't want to spend extra time with a beautiful woman? However, I must offer this disclaimer. In the event it does happen, it's one hundred per cent up to the lady. It's never based on my wishes, desires, nor any expectations. Sometimes my great connections say they have another session shortly, and it's off I go. Sometimes that very same lady will invite me to lunch, and hang for an hour or four. If nothing is said at all, her body language will tell me when it's time to go.  

I've had a great time with him as a client. Nothing more. The man is far beyond my years and I do have a special guy in my life whom I met in school. Definitely not "that" type of situation.

don't put up with his demands. He's turned into a worst nightmare kind of client. Let him go see whoever his lil heart desires. He thinks you NEEDS him. Nothing will send him the correct message more than  radio silence.

Well, with that age difference it sounds like it could be a power play on the part of your client.  I now join the chorus: move on.

You are correct as always.  This "problem" will only get worst.  He thinks it's a relationship but we know better.

It doesn't sound like it's worth doing so, anyway.  

Stop seeing this "gentleman".

Why can't you just say "Hey just so you know, I have somewhere to be after this appt"...and then duck out, start getting dressed etc...

There's been a lot of good advice. However, maybe it am an be explained like this to him:

You are the only one who can fix it.  

The sense of entitlement, the lack of respect and the fact that he would even mention going to someone else as leverage should tell you to just let him go!  Don't take his calls, answer his emails..  Just drop him!!

It's very simple here.
If a hobbyist or provider do not show the other person respect on the date.
Just move on and don't see or talk to them anymore!

between some extra time after the play is done...  one gal i'd pick up lunch for us before i left...  another we would chat for a while after we are done playing...  we talk about RW.  But if her phone rings, it's no longer my time & she takes the call.  I have even needed to leave in a hurry.  It's still coupled with a P4P.