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... can we just take 5 min to get to know one another a little if we've never met?  It's difficult to sit down  for a second & break the ice if you mount me at the door.  Allowing a few moments to create a little chemistry is to your advantage, as well as mine.  It makes for a less mechanical session & mental stimulation is equally proportionate to emotional arousal, in my opinion.  Eager aggression from the get-go is the biggest turn-off for me & can ruin the entire date for both of us.  Fortunately this doesn't happen with every new friend I meet, but with the few it does, it sure makes an impact.  In opposition, there are those who strive to tease by having a relaxed, flirty conversation, producing those sexy little characteristics of seduction in one another that makes for a room-wrecking, sheet-clawing experience you'll not anytime soon forget. Hey, it's your dream; I'm just walking around in it... but I'm just sayin'.

I've got no problem getting to know someone and have done that 95% of the time, but if a girl is willing, the mount at the door routine can be very hot.  It's called a fantasy for a reason.

clients that are more into gfe!I prefer creating a chemistry with them over a glass of wine or two first but have had some amazing times with gents that are more fast paced as well.Diffrent stokes for different folks!!

I think in your particular situation with her, that's hot!  I'd play out that fantasy with you in a heart-beat, given the circumstances.  I'm not contradicting myself to agree with you... different scenarios call for different reactions, & I think your fantasy is definitely inviting.  Guess you'll just have to start the act all over again so you can play out the climax in the end, for sure this time.

and while sipping a glass of wine you leaned in and whispered  " I'm not wearing panties" [ the fact that you were not wearing a bra was obvious...ahhh..Hollywood...ya gotta love it]...and I lifted you upon the bar knocking away the glasses and nut bowl ...pulled up your mini and ...well...you know.  Which exact category was that?

like it the same way you do, from what I've read here in postings and reviews. Unfortunately, I am not one of them. lol

My favorite icebreaker for an escort session is a little french kissing and groping along with some mutual oral ministrations, and how do you do, ma'am? I prefer to save the chatting for afterwards, as we're cleaning up and getting dressed.

Lucky for me, there's no shortage of girls who are more than glad to do it my way and without being at all mechanical about it. Or at least they're glad to act as though they're glad, and they understand that the session is supposed to be about what I want to do within their boundaries.

Sit down and talk about the first thing that POPS up!!

That is the "where have you been all my life" category!  LOL

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his being too drunk to ask that question is the only thing my too-drunk-ass can currently remember!

"What'll we do for the rest of the hour?"

omg lmao!

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Jinni
PS. Kelsi, I know ya didn't mean it like that..great topic !!

Who the heck is paying for whose time? I really don't care about "turning you on" or what your "turn offs" are. Did you forget that this is not a real date, that this is a job for you, that I am paying for your time (similar to a consulting engagement)? And within reason your job is to make ME happy. Within reason, no matter what I do or say, you should be acting as if I am the best client you ever met. The tone of your posting seems to imply that I need to figure out how to please you, which is not something I want to pay for.

I did say "within reason" - that doesn't mean you have to do anything I say, nor does it mean that you need to ignore me acting like a jerk, so please don't bother going down that road.

I'm not paying her, lol

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Well this sucks Kelsi you are in phoenix I am in atlanta looks like we are gonna have to wait to talk about the first thing that POPS up.

Personally Kelsi I like to start off with a bottle of wine and great get to know conversation for about 30 minutes with a few kisses in between sips of wine.

Really, now, you can't have it both ways...GFE make you happy date or mechanical this is her job, pay her and leave...

I believe the spirit of the post was meant to jokingly enlighten ter members of a way to ensure a fantastic date. Yes, you choose who gets your money, yes, this is a business. Some ladies can fake it; for others, they need to be stimulated as well.

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Jinni

If I had the ability to be charming and flirty when sitting next to a beautiful woman who probably has me feeling completely nervous and flustered, then I wouldn't be here, would I!? LOL

I call it a date b/c I don't make it a practice of talking like you do, & to hopefully avoid the desire of any law enforcement lerpers from knocking down my door over a simple misunderstanding you seem to have presented.  

You're not paying me for anything specific on our date b/c you donate a rate for my time & companionship only, & if we should hit it off, sex between two consenting adults is our business & I'm simply stating that it's easier to bed me if I actually like you first.  I would think you'd want to make the most out of that which you've donated, so it would only be to your full advantage that I be aroused so you can get laid... I can't imagine what else you could possibly want from a date.  But this is just in theory b/c in the real world, in this community/industry, you & I would never have sex unless you knew where to get the Chloroform b/c you're a walking poster-child for sex-deprivation, which women can spot from 100 mi away.  I don't know if your tactful way of expressing yourself is what caused your difficulty in getting laid, or if your difficulty in getting laid is what caused your tactful way of expressing yourself, but this question regarding your anger mis-management bores me.  

I, far more than you'll ever get to find out (other than reading about it), offer my service to refined Gentlemen (unlike yourself), with nothing less than a fully attentive, accommodating, anticipation-aware, skilled, consumed, & fantasy fulfilling experience to master.  And BTW, it is also my pleasure.  You're right... this is what I do & I do whatever it takes to result in the complete satisfaction of creating repeat clients by offering the best available small business venture in its class.  So it isn't necessary for you to imagine how I'd present things in comparison to the 1/2 ass way you'd go about it.

What I WAS suggesting to a miniscule group, is that the intensity of passion is much better coming from me when it comes from the heart & soul, vs acting as though it does, which I can do quite well too.  Hey, it just depends on how much bang you want for your buck, little hater fuck.  If your method is so effective, stick with it; mine seems to work for me just fine.  Then there's the fact that none of my posts should be taken fully to heart... while there's always truth in the premise, my sense of humor I consider to be one of my stronger points... not in that I am funny, but in that I see much of life AS funny.  This is mostly entertainment for those with common interest.

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and you have gotten quite a few here, some you liked because it is what you wanted to hear, and others clearly not so much as it attacks just "what you are actually providing"!

Just how comfortable do you honestly think either party is upon an initial meeting.  Both sides are "nervous" for a variety of reasons.  But you are the ones putting up the ads seeking Johns to come and visit you.  And I know that opening that door is a scary moment as God only knows what awaits you.  But for many guys it is a one hour and done deal..and to spend time chatting with you about life is NOT why they are there.  And you KNOW it!

And granted there are some guys that want to know what turns you on (and off), but most certainly don't care in the least.  They are there to get their nut and leave.  It's really that simple.  And your comments that the session will be better if you get to know your customer (for an hour guy) is a commentary that you might need to work on your "acting" skills.  

If a guy has any experience in this "hobby" he has seen a few gals (and likewise I suspect you have seen more than a couple of guys).  If all he wants to do is suck your face, tits, pussy and whatever else there is, then that's what he will do.  He doesn't need to know anything else, nor do you (IMHO).  But you disagree and feel that for the session to be successful you need to know the guy somewhat.  And I only feel that you need to know enough that he has paid for his time, isn't LE (which you would know immediately in spite of your undefensable, hopefully comic attempt, position on this is for two discerning adults crap) and is a "gentleman".

But if speding time in the beginning is working for you, and you have sufficient repeats, then you probably didn't need to post your rant!  But if indeed it is not working out, then you should pay close attention to what EVERYONE has commented on and adjust your time with a new guy accordingly.

Good luck to you.

If all I wanted was a nut I would stay home and watch porn. Most of my best sessions happen with ladies I chosen because of there posts on a local hobby site. It is often the ladies personality that attracted me to her in the first place. (Every time I see a lady based on looks and menu alone I am disappointed with the session.)

I am a one pop guy for the most part. The only reason most of my sessions are 90min or 120min long is I do enjoy just talking a bit first and a bit more after. I am not into the GFE thing. I don't kiss or go for fantasy, but I love getting to know the ladies I fuck.

Yes, I know I am a mangina, but I don't care.

Told her she had a nice ass and she took it as an apology.

Sure.

disregarding some few grammar errors, this gentlemen has a point. I have no idea where the thought of providers requesting hobbyist to spend a single second on considering anything what providers desire when hobbyists are paying for time.

This doesn't mean I agree with him nor disagree, because my preference is if I like the provider then I want her to like me back which is just genuine fun talking and getting to know each other.

disagree with both of you big time. The crude response would be: fuck both of you dicks.

But let's not go there...

Your posts states:

"I have no idea where the thought of providers requesting hobbyist to spend a single second on considering anything what providers desire when hobbyists are paying for time."

...has got to be one of the most fucked up ideas I have ever heard from another man.

Let me be clear here, that I am not making a personal attack on either of you. Understand? I'm just a man, as you are, and my opinion is of no greater value than yours.

Neither of you, nor I, originated our different points of view. As adults we have simply adopted the views we "feel" right with, and that we choose to apply in our lives. Understand where I'm coming from on that?

I see this situation very differently. I don't believe your $500 gives you the right to a damn thing with a provider, or anyone else for that matter.

Example: If you are dying in front of me, you have $500, and I own the $50 antidote that will save your life, you do not have the right to that antidote. Get it? It's not YOUR RIGHT to get it from me. Not even if you offer me 10 TIMES its worth. If you look at me cross-eyed and I don't like that, well it's your loss that I have the antidote.

Sure you could say I would be the worst sort of person for not selling it to you, but what does that matter? You're dead now, not me. Anyway, in whose eyes am I bad for not selling it to you? Your wife? Kids? Friends? They are not the standard setters. How about the government? They don't give a shit about you. In God's eyes? Don't even go there.

Are you following me?

The antidote is mine! And guess what? Even if I need that $50 or even the entire $500 you're offering, you aren't getting it, and do you know why? Because there is someone else who will want it, or need it, or buy it, who won't look cross-eyed at me first. They might say say "please" and that means something to me. Hell, they might even lick my balls and offer me $100,000 if they were in your shoes.

Now here's the line of distinction: Money is easy. How people treat me if far more important. (Lot's of people feel that way, too.) So your attitude just killed you dead in that scenario, and c'est le vie!!

The truth is I wouldn't let someone lick my balls for that antidote, and I wouldn't hold out for $100,000 either. Or even $500. I'd likely just give it away to a friend.

What's the point of that story?

Well I don't know about you, but I don't seek the company of prostitutes. Ever.  I don't even want to fuck a hot chick that I don't like, even if I'm horny. That's the way I roll. You're different??? Well, I guess it takes all kinds to fill the freeway. You go your way and I'll go mine.

What I WILL DO, sometimes, is hire a companion and avail myself of her time for an hour or two. I'm looking for a HUMAN interaction, and I know fully well that if I don't treat her well (or vice versa) that we won't click and we won't have a good interaction.

With that in mind, what do you think I do? I try to be charming and I take a real interest in her first. Man I will tell you, IT PAYS OFF!

Now you... well if you are looking to buy sex acts, they are out there, and they are cheap to0. $25 to $75 in any major city in the US, and it's no secret where to find it. Take your $500 and go get you nut 7 or 8 times over. But, you can go ahead with out me.

Now, if you are interested in the companionship of an intelligent, interesting woman for an hour or two, who by the way, happens to be far more gorgeous and engaging that the women who will date your sorry carcass, I have some good advice for you:

Treat her like a lady. Try your best to make a good impression. She's a fine, fine woman, and is complete worth it.

The bottom line for me is that the only men who really think like that quote above, are hypocritical, selfish, manipulative asses who actually look down on the very women they are seeking out.

If you decide to adopt that view, well Forest...

"Stupid is as stupid does"



HalfHour

Yes you are correct you are paying them, you areI paying for their time and with that said they don't have to do anything with you. Keep this in mind you want the time spent to be real or mechanical? Alot of guys complain about their time with a lady being mechanical. Well if you want it to be personal then you need to spend a minute and talk to them. if you don't want to talk to them then move on to a back page girl that gets right to it and acts like Susie sucks alot 2000.

And you might have posted your reply where you quoted some post to that particular post, as I don't believe my post said this whatsoever.

And to try and use an example that is pretty far off from the reality of what we are doing here is..well just not a good example.  I find it a huge strectch to equate a "life saving drug" to a BBBJ...but that's just my opinion.  Perhaps I didn't get the connotation on your example...but that is how I read it.

And as for my personal preferences on this topic, all you need to do is read a review or two of mine and you can see what types of sessions I prefer.  I just find it "interesting" when the gals profess to want to get to know me nonsense.  Some guys (heck most of the ones that post here) are only interested in a one hour deal...period.  Wasting time on "getting to know you" is just not something these fellas want to do...and frankly I get it.  And too often, as ladies have suggested to me, it is a way to "shorten" the session...and all too often by half the time.  That is NOT acceptable when we all know why we are in the room together.

And as far as the type of guys that are here...well that has been discussed a few times.  But we could start another thread and go at it once again if you would like.

My request is for a 5 (FIVE) (V) (IIII/) (all fingers & thumb on one hand, per normal, healthy human) measly minutes of non-intrusive conversation.  Anyone who's had a session with me knows I don't use the clock as a measuring device, AND when I'm allowed to take up to 20 min to shoot the breeze, I eat that time - I don't dock you for it.  And on occasion, b/c we had such a phenomenal time on 3rd base, my sessions have been known to run, let's just say waaaaaay over, so as not to open up a whole new agenda here for future session expectations, but I wouldn't dream of billing my DATE for it.

As a matter of fact, & since I go through a great deal of effort & energy to prepare for a DATE, since most of my sessions with new clients resulted in appx 90, with not one complaint, AND the rest booked at 2 hrs or more anyway, AND virtually all of them has visited me at least once since, I set my minimum booking duration at 90 min, which further helps to weed out anyone seeking a wham-bam session.  This is win-win for everyone, with no guesswork.  I advertise myself as an "Intimate Companion" (b/c using the acronym GFE anywhere in your ads was/is getting girls busted... hey, I don't make the rules... I just observe them & decide which ones I'll comply to).  We all offer different menus & mine offers companionship vs the quickie.  Hobbyists seeking exactly that know what entails the difference.  It's all a matter of preference & I don't judge or complain about your pref, I just don't choose to offer it or partake, with a first-time meeting.  It is what it is.  But if you're a regular & want to stop by for 15 min b/c that's all the time your busy schedule permits, that's hot!  I will comply!

My acting skills are second to none, just so you know.  And if this is who I think it is, I even fooled you, so there you have it.  If not, disregard.

So the ones who think I'm audacious in the desire of mutual mental engagement, aren't the ones I'm interested in obtaining business with anyway, just as I'm not the type you're looking for.  I'm not for everyone, just as no one is.  But perhaps a stimulating connection elsewhere might make some of you less uptight... that is, if you could manage the acting as though your partner is not (metaphorically, not phyically...) beneath you.

In your post now you're discussing longer dates (90 min to 2 hour) and that is where you need to be to attract the types of client you seem to be seeking.  If indeed you could have read a couple of my reviews you would know that is my preferred date length (or longer), hence YOUR introduction of only a 5 minute chit chat is something that I typically will extend to a half hour (I'm not as smart as you in that I really need some real time to evaluate who I might be with...and frankly my dear, five minutes just isn't going to do it for me).

But also keep in mind that all of these posts are archived forever.  And when you make asinine comments regarding "I even fooled you" is foolish in how it might appear to a prospect.  And trust me, we have NEVER met, and in all probability NEVER will (unless you travel to Chicago and PM me to let me know you're here...and have grown up).  

And in the event you misplaced your shovel, you should look much harder to find it as...well you know the drill!