This is not a rant. More like a plea. Since I started as a provider,I have many men show up unannounced,approach me in public,hang out in my parking lot,and on 2 ocassions actually try to solicit my under age daughter! Yes one of those wives got a phone call. Leave my children alone! I even had 2 gents go to my employer looking for me. Many of us have private lives we need to protect just like you. We strive to keep your secret, please do the same in return. Thanks and be safe.

Question-
How did a client have access to your daughter?

Suggestion-
If you are working out of your home with your child living with you...you should probably stop.

Thought-
If the client did not harm your daughter it is inappropriate that you called his wife on the telephone.  You can't let clients have access to your life, home and children or give them a way of finding you and then get pissed off and abuse information that you've collected.  

Provider to provider - woman are you mad?

extreme behavior. On the newbie board you suggested that a provider whip out her camera phone to extort money from a admittedly deadbeat client. Now you admit to calling a client's wife. Not to mention your willingness to send nasty PM's to someone that you have never even had a conversation with.

It probably is wise that you don't link to your reviews. After reading your PM and your few posts here I would avoid you like the plague.

You seem to be yet another provider that doesn't really like her clientelle. It makes me wonder why you ever chose this line of work.

He called and she answered the phone. She lives w/her dad and was here for the weekend. I turn off my buisness phone now when she is here. She told him she was 14 and he said that's ok. WRONG ANSWER!!!

Stop obsessing GAG, children shouldn't play w/computers. Where's your parents?!

If men show up unannounced, I assume that means you provide out of your home. I don't defend those men, they are wrong, but it is also your fault.

Likewise, if they have the opportunity to solicit your underage daughter, that means that seomhow you gave them access to your daughter.

And again - if they went to your employer, that means they know who your employer is - why would you give up that information?

Many hobbyists are honorable, and respectful of boundaries. Some aren't. If you are that open about your personal information, you have to EXPECT that sooner or later (probably sooner) your boundaries will be invaded.

AGAIN - I'm not defending the men who do this, I'm just saying you are naive to think that it won't happen.

and have worked for years and you appear to be new.
You are highly dangerous, and should not have put your daughter out in front of any hobbyist. You should have taken precautions so the hobby never crosses paths with your daughter. Shame on you!
How did these guys know where you worked? Where did they come from? CL? The streets?
You have also admitted outing someone. You are the type of "provider" that is not needed around here, and the same goes for your so called "customers".

I don't disclose info. I'm in retail and he saw me one time while at work. I understand there are risks and I am prepared to accept that. Most of you are very respectful and a joy to be around. Just entering a plea to the minority. XO

Blaa Blaa Blaa

... if you've been careless and given them the tools to disregard your privacy. As stated in the replies above, HOW did these men get your work location, your home location (since you said they showed up unannounced and in your parking lot), and HOW did they have access to your daughter? TWICE!!!

As also stated above, most Hobbyists are decent, respectful individuals who value their privacy as much as the lady does. If these men are aware of your personal info because you were careless, it's not totally their fault.

I would look for another line of work. Outing people, making phone calls and disrupting someone's life because you were careless does not make you a hobbyist-friendly provider. You could also be putting yourself AND daughter in danger ... if they know where you live/work, and you OUT them, there may be a tendency to retailiate against you or your family.

Changes occupations - or change clientele.

I am starting to not believe you are NOT a provider. I think you are either someone doing a research paper, a troll, or a wife. I also think you have a partner in crime who post with you.

If you are a provider:

I suggest you REFRAIN from working until you find yourself a MENTOR. You are doing wayyyyyyyyy too much.  

Sister, baby, honey, love,....GIRLFRIEND.....


SELAH....that means PAUSE AND CONSIDER!!!

Please see the link below.

which leaves the impression you do believe she is a provider. Not a criticism. Just thought you might like to know.

Blaa,Blaa,Blaa. Another suck~up provider who invites morons to treat providers however they please. Ill send those calls your way sweety. I had some respect for you. That's history.

This is a plea to who?  I REALLY think guys who use this board to write or read reviews
to avoid getting ripped off or getting arrested would hang in front of a house of a provider.  You sound like you work the local truck stop, diner or bar taking men home and you negoiate a fee from there.  Thats why there are NO REVIEWS to link

Seriously now!
I have been playing this game for around 4yrs. Noone has met my children come to my house come near my family or friends.
Its seperation to the extreme.
The problem honey here I have to say is YOU!
YOU are not using even an ounce of discretion.
Noone knows my real name the town I live in or what I do for a living aside from this.
YOU are creating your own issues.
I have to agree you need to step away. Hang up your stillettos and find a new career path. This is not for everyone and I don't think you are cut out for it.

ok u r right. i will commit to doing a spell check. To clarify I DON'T THINK THIS PERSON IS A PROVIDER

Been in the industry 10 yrs babydoll. Talking about approximately a dozen incidents.in that time frame. BTW,$***,***.** per yr says I'm right where I need to be. Thanx for the concern and be safe as a traveler

How ignorant of someone to do that.
I am afraid it is in the numbers. Your gonna get a certain percent of the public that are just clueless.
I am so sorry to hear this happened to you.
I would never approach a provider in public. You deserve your privacy like everyone else.

how could possibly expect anyone else to ?

it's YOUR personal information.. if you take the responsibility for your own behavior,  you wont need to dictate the actions of others.

people cannot violate your privacy unless you tell them how to.

calling someone's wife will not solve your issue, it only creates more issues.

this sort of behavior reflects badly upon us all, and its the last thing we need.

hate to say it but I can guess its best she lives with her dad. Doesn't sound too safe with you.

......that is just using another ter username to post this as opposed to an alias. Which by the way is against ter policy. Her manner of speech and way of writing has a familiar ring to it. Can't quite put my finger on it but I'd bet a free session she's someone who is usualy quite outspoken and has been around for quite some time.  JMHO.

If you can't dismiss everyone's thoughts RE your behavior you should just get lost.

You've got your ho phone around your 14 year old?
YOU'RE A BAD MOTHER

You've got clients who would say "thats okay if you're 14" to your child in the happenstance she answer's your phone?
YOU'RE A BAD MOTHER AND YOU'VE GOT A SHITTY CLIENTELE because no one and I mean NO ONE that I see would ever say something like that, even joking in passing.

You're providing out of your home where your stays with you?
YOU'RE A CHILD PROTECTION SERVICES STORY WAITING TO HAPPEN.

You are unstable!

I humbly thank you eddiejafo.

I hope the client whose wife you called returned the favor by calling CPS. You are a danger not just to the hobbying community, but to your family as well.

I disagree. Allowing men to treat you this way is what we don't need. Give an inch take a mile. The small amount of assholes need to be put in check. He will think twice before doing that to someone else.

She is too familier with us to be a newbie. She is a serious incident just waiting to happen however.

I would hope that the PTB will check her URL and see if you are correct. I bet you are.

You mentioned "Men" who showed up unannounced ... then replied to one post that "I'm in retail and HE saw me one time." You talk about it happening about a dozen times in the "10 years" you've been around (Your answer to a response), so is it one man, more than one, or what? You said it was 2 men who went to your employer looking for you ... was it 2 different men, or the same man twice? You talked about your daughter being solicited twice, yet replied to one post that she "answered the phone." So, if you knew about it once, how did the 2nd time happen?? And if you are "right where you want to be" with your $ XXX,XXX.XX, why are you working retail??

Your story smacks of too much CSI and inconsistent answers to those who posted reponses. You are either careless, see less-than-desirable men, live in a small town, don't know yourself how to be discrete, all of the above, or the story is B.S.

I don't know who you are, what is "happening" to you or how you are approaching your "practice" as a provider, but I would not care if you were the most beautiful thing that ever walked at the cheapest rate in town - I would stay as far away from you as possible....  nobody in this sport needs the complications....

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to purchase something from the store.

she made a reference to "Chicago and Lake" being a place to find "crack hoes". That would lead me to believe that she hails from Minneapolis.

So we have a middle aged, man hating provider that comes from Minnesota who claims to have been a provider for the last ten years with poor parenting skills and bad impulse control. Remind you of anybody?

Sure is easy to keep you engaged GAG. I'm flattered.

Why work retail and be exposed as the town ho?  Guys talk that why they are gathered in front of your house. Bad mother, Bad neighbor, bad provider.  Just Bad

Yeah that's just what people who make real money do in their spare time, work retail. ROFLMFAO

Please get your stories straight. Do you think that there is even a single person here that is buying your BS?

AND....what the fuck...you acknowledge none of this as off the wall?

you see none of YOUR behavior as a danger to your children?
To your life, to your health?

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Hmmmmm. So in addition to being an obsessive stalker, you are STUPID too? Its called having an accountable income to pacify uncle sam!

Just so everyone knows....it's not ME!!  

I am from MN, 44 yrs young,  no other JOB, and NO kids.  Thank you...

This is trouble waiting to happen!   I do know a few that it COULD be.  And, no, I won't name names, so don't ask!

endangering your child, exposing them to  uncomfortable if not potentially dangerous situations
bringing this world into your childs enviornment
calling wives(now thats just craziness)


And none of this you see as YOUR fault? How so!!!
step back refocus and redirect to hopefully a different line of work.
Doesn't sound like retail is working for you either.
I'd also suggest you relocate since it sounds as though EVERYONE knows first hand what it is you do.

Put your claws back babygirl

I don't have any respect for a woman who puts her children at risk
calls a mans wife and simply is unrealistic about boundries her safety her families safety
and is so absolutely clueless as to where the line is drawn.
Thank god your kid has a parent who they live with who isn't exposing them to this as you are.

it is a literary reference to the Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy series by Douglas Adams in which the answer to the question "What is the meaning of life?" is the number 42.

so that is not her age but she is a fan of Adams work. as am i if you haven't guessed.

Be safe sweety ok? You will be in my prayers tonight. I pray that My Creator protects you from ill wishers, and those who may seek to harm you.

I am a lady, I will not ever go around in circles with you, resort to name calling, or attempt to degrade you in any way.



HAPPY PROVIDING!!!


Selah,


Allure`

You're GOOD Texcat. Alas

finally...finally you get it. Or do you.???
To allow this to happen, yes YOU allowed this.
Knowing you are from a small town, or so it seems, you should work far anough away from your life your real life and your home so this is NOT an issue.
I am in Boston, work far enough away from my town, my home and my studio that the 2 worlds don't mesh...ever.

My children, are never touched by this world.

you were careless left your phone laying around and your daughter was at risk.

You took chances and allowed things to happen, yet you take no responsability. You choose to see yuorself as a victim. BS  You Allowed this. You were risky and careless. allowed ppl to know where you live to invade your life.

Absolutely agreed. I feel real bad for your daughter. It's a shame, step outside of yourself and try to imagine how this 14 year old child views you. YOUR indescretion has failed YOU AND your poor daughter. Poor judgement can have a very, very high cost of damage. Some things in this life you cannot undo. Sad, very sad.

You and GAG should hook~up. You both seem obsessed. Get over it.

It's the ATTENTION STARVED TROLL!!!!!!!

And you all are feeding her little ego an all-you-can-eat buffet of DRAMA.

Stop feeding her, and she'll go away.

Here is something you probably never considered.

There was a very interesting recent lawsuit in which a wife sued the woman with whom her husband had been having an affair for alienating him from her.

She won. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

If you are a provider and you dime someone out -- it had better be for something good -- i.e. felonious -- where your action saves lives.

Wives these days already have the legal system in their corner, and the ability to SUE another woman for having sex with her husband is another bonus.

Only an absolute utter idiot would call some woman and say: "Oh, I had sex with your husband. For MONEY."

I'm thinking about my sister here. My sister has a stack of black belts, a degree in biology. is an expert pistol shot, a Mensa genius, etc. She is way more dangerous than her husband. I have no doubt she could pull off a murder and get away with it, CSI notwithstanding.

Calling HER and telling her you laid her husband would be mind-bogglingly stupid. Yeah -- hubby would get it, but I wouldn't count on being immune.

Not all wives are deserving of the scorn that I sometimes see heaped on them; and some are downright deadly.

I have no idea how the teenage daughter would feel about you being sued for millions of dollars and spending the rest of your life working to repay that debt. But I'm fairly certain she'd be traumatized by what some wives could or would do.

My advice is that you are not sufficiently stable to be in this business. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh; but you are clearly endangering the wellbeing of your daughter, and that isn't acceptable.

Your life is already so fucked up, there is nothing I need to do. You are strictly for amusement purposes.

Low rent, truck stop hoes like you are a dime a dozen. I do feel bad for your children though, I am sure they don't deserve a mother as fucked up as you, but I can't stay up all night worrying about every child with a fucked up parent. Have a nice life.