hassles, headaches and other forms of drama, basically.

The sexual experience can certainly be equivilant, but providers usually trump civies because of their experience and the fact that they are competing for business more directly.

The only valid reason to see a civie, IMHO, is to establish a SO relationship for the purposes of getting married and raising a family, etc.

What does provider can give what girlfriend is not able to do? Or maybe girlfriends will never collect such an experience as providers in their lives?

For me it is the providers. They give me variety and the strong cummings of a life time.

I also get to do things the SO does not do at home such a greek.

a provider; well, actually two. Other than that, my best experiences have been with SO's, except a threesome, and I haven't done anything with an SO that I haven't done with a provider. But, I've never had a time with a provider that I've ever regretted, and it's always been exciting, which I can't say about some SO's.

But I agree.....sex with YOUR wife has always been better for me. LOL


JK!!!!

My wife does MORE than most providers




SO FAR!!!

what's with 20 something asian civvy girls these days... or maybe its just my gf.

she is gorgeous, easily a 9 (or a 10 with makeup...)  but I'd rate her a 6 or 7 in performance.

just about everything is off the menu. wtf

I'd get a bbbj on a lucky day... but then she doesn't like precum so we need a fucking spit bucket near by.

waaaays over the hill.

kinda feel guilty for hobbying behind her back, but a shitty performance like that from a civvy gets me feeling as if I had an incomplete sneeze and an itch that needs to be scratched, every time...

cuz my ATFs #inhale# my dick as if their life depended on it... sometimes I can't even begin to describe how much more satisfying  providers are.

But once it started to drift away, I wasn't able to get it back.  I was too young to really understand the effort required or that relationships change and you have to change with them.

Like you said, good sex will die in a marriage if you don't make some effort and adjustments.  Too bad I didn't learn all that until after I was divorced.

A large part of that is sex is better when it means something. Sex does not always mean something between me and my wife, but often it does. I have never had sex mean a thing between a provider that I am paying and me. Wife wins hands down.

She is wild.

Agreed - I had the same experience (tho I'm now divorced).  My former wife was DDG and her performance in bed was far better than any provider I have known.  The fact that she added love and passion to the proceedings was frosting on the cake.

It's so nice to hear you say that.

but that was long ago in a land far far away.   I dig the making love part...  I love the cuddling & closeness...  but wife does not have any sex drive.  Zero.  
Providers...  are willing at times of the day when I am at my best, not after midnight when we're both exhausted & just want to get it over with OR hoping that there will be an excuse to avoid.  Providers are willing to do positions & activities (you'd call basic, like CG) but which are best for me but which wife removed from the menu years ago.  

Honestly, it is the rarest SO who has the sex drive & willingness to keep a man even reasonably satisfied.   Ladies, if you are, my hat's off to you.   IF my wife even came close to keeping me happy, I'd be out of the hobby.  
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with the wife (SO) as you do with a provider.

When was the last time you showered, shaved and put those candles out for the "session"?

How about adding DFK (LFK) with the wife (SO)?

How about DATY with that wife (SO)?

How about that special "date" night with an expensive dinner and romance?

One of the things this hobby has been teaching me has been how I need to address that same intensity at home.  As I look back where I was with my wife (two years ago when I began this journey and we have been married nearly 30 years) and where I have brought the same ambience into our bedroom has, albeit slowly, brought some of those old sparks and sex back.  Has my wife reached the levels of many of the gals I have seen here?  Not quite, and perhaps never will.  But considering how far things had drifted off over the years, I am rather happy with the direction that things in my home have been going.

What this hobby has taught me is it takes two to tango.  And you will only get out of this (the SO/wife sex) what you put into it.

But also based on what some guys have written, it appears they have perhaps tried and given up on this.  But for those who are striving to find that commonality, keep on working at it.  

I certainly plan on continuing...and hopefully that full, erotic element that the gals here provide will once again be fully met in my own bedroom.

Providers, far and away are the best!  Especially in view of the fact that the Mrs. has NO sex drive and could not be the least interested in sex over the last two years.  Thank GOD for providers!

You are right about not collecting from a GF, and that makes a guy more comfortable because he doesn't look at the time. A GF can do almost anything on the menu. Some GF I have been with are okay in performance, while others are great. As with providers, I can say that I am always on a time constraint, and it ruins the experience sometimes. Sure, I had great sex with some providers and terrible sex with others. If weighing the pros and cons in terms of sex experience overall, I would have to say with a GF because everything is on the menu and you can do it anytime.

I personally see providers because it is easy to get laid. It broadens my experiences with other ladies (mixing it up from time to time). Finally, the somewhat excitement of the journey. You ask, so I said it loosely as I can.

Very well said.

She said the sex was great and was completely satisfied with that part, as she well should have been.

I never asked for sex unless she was to be pleasured. It was not unusual for me to do all those romantic things to set the mood then spend and hour or more with gentle massage head-to-toe to relax her, kisses all over, slow hand technique shit. Doing that stuff for years, approaching each session like it's both your first and last, you learn to read every signal and the best responses. Never did she not cum like a frieght train first, then again when it was my turn for fun.

Plus I loved her... and we never used condoms so it was bliss. I never strayed.  Then she left me for her boss.

Oh well...

Provider are a blast in a different sort of way! And I get to do things I never could with her. What I want. When I want. With whom I want.

But because I LOOOOOOOOOVE WOMEN I am always respectful, clean, charming and care about the providers feelings and enjoyment, they seem to have fun too. And I get invited back.  Damn, life is good,

Viva le difference!!


Half
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best head= provider
best sex= friend w/ benifits