I hear stories from some ladies about men saying very mean things to them when they deny meeting with the man. I haven't had to deal with this lately. (I have gotten some insults in the past, but I just ignore them, but not like I'm hearing from some.)

It is even worse when men act this way.

Sounds like you are a white knight, coming to the rescue and trying and save these ladies from these terrible men with your advice...just let them do their thing. If they want to argue with these guys, what business is it of yours? Why would you want to be involved in someone else's drama?

They feel like complete losers when women, who are getting paid big bucks to fuck them BTW,  refuse to meet with them.

Any guy who rails on a provider who won't see him has obviously proved her point about him not being all there. The only good response is none at all. At best you'll end up in a pissing contest, at worst you'll end up with a stalker.

This game involves the most primal needs that people have.  So it attracts some very dysfunctional types on both sides of the transaction. (The Dungbeetle being case in point).  So this kind of thing is inevitable.  Don't let it bother you.  The guys that give you shit?  Their punishment is they have to lead their miserable lives knowing they're assholes.  So develop a thicker skin.  Smile.

Best just to ignore them. They'll move on and should leave you alone. My Provider has told me incidents of Clients she had to turn away. One of her former Clients had actually Stalked her at her Inall location. From what she told me she had seen this Client one time. The Session was not good. So he calls for another Session and she said No. He went to her Incall location anyway and waited outside for her. He eventually went away. Some even bother her on her phone. Case in point; After I had a Session with my Provider, she asked me for a ride home. As we were in my Car her phone was ringing and ringing. It was a potential Client that wanted to meet her. He had called her numerous times before. So she tried ignoring the call, but eventually answered. He had asked her if "Greek" was on her Menu. She yelled "No' and was screaming at this guy on the phone. So far all of her Bad Clients eventually went away. Good Luck Courtney and be Safe.

I keep saying to one of them to raise her rates. These guys say things like "I've read this" and "There is a video out of you" so she proceeds to try and get the info, but they skim over that part and keep trash talking her.

It's just like the couple clowns I heard about doing bad reviews then offering to do rewrites if the provider sees them for a large discount or free. Surprising how many providers see the guy again because the TER low number hurt busy.

I'm not talking about myself. The gents I see are amazing, wonderful men. Probably because they know, and I know I won't put up with that kind of stuff, and I ignore dousche bag comments.

If there is a guy I won't see it almost always is because his play style and mine do not meet in the middle.  

If its just a guy getting a little pissy, I don't care to much. But if they escalate to threats or being really nasty (some will send six emails in a row and get crazier each time, you know how it goes), I do warn them that if they don't pack it in immediately I'll let others know. I would want to be warned if something so little caused a guy to flip out, and it usually ends the conversation pretty quickly.  

some men will not take "no" for an answer..if a provider tells him she will not see him..case closed..for some guys the ego bruising necessitates asking why..then the shit starts for no good reason..

Keep my score down a little, and let me see the smart VIP hobbyists who actually read the reviews and have enough brains to figure out that the dude was just being an ass

Courtney you're a Provider. A Hoe is a S.W.

...with it unless you're saying she is attracting less than desirable clients because of low rates. However raising her rates won't deal with the ones already causing the problem. She is perpetuating the problem by continuing the discussion/argument. If she doesn't like it stop participating in it. If she doesn't answer his/their calls or read the e-mails she won't know what's being said. The number or e-mail address can be blocked. Just do it.

You could try raising your rates.. still doesn't mean you won't encounter one.

Only Jerks say mean things when rejected from a provider.  

Just follow Drake's motto and say to yourself  

Ain't Worried About Nothin

Give a sweet HO some clothes  and connections
 sister tell her how to talk the walk  
    next thing you find  
that good S.W is a grand  Courtesan .

Best if the guy get's a thicker skin and moves on, and likewise the lady too - but I'd think understanding where that visceral reaction of the guy comes from could help ladies learn the best way to deal with potential clients.  Clear, straight-forward, but "sweet" is the best means of communication.  And definitely don't get dragged into a pissing match, nobody wins with those, I think both come out looking bad...  If the guy seems a little unhinged after the professional communiqué, then just ignore after that.  Not doing so will only feed the obsessive behavior, it won't help...

If it helps at all..
Assholes like that in positions of power think they can buy everybody.
At least you can tell them to fuck off, and move on to the next client.
I have to suck it up for my retirement.

Very true, lol. Though my thoughts on that are to try not to start fist fights with the dudes... Guys can get a little odd when it comes to blue balls

This is one of my favorite statements, "I neither want nor need you approval".  End of conversation unless you are dealing with a 6 year old, in which case "I'm a mommy and you are a little boy".
Deprived

She is not a man....she's a provider lol. I don't get the post at all, but that much I know ha ha.  

Reading reviews and the forums, clients have two different ways of dealing with the fact that they aren't able to get satisfaction in the civvie world (with a wide range in between). At one extreme, they are so grateful that a woman will do what they want that they fall into worshipful awe. At the other extreme, they hate and resent the provider and try to assert control in the standard ways asshats always try to control women. The latter camp seems to prefer the low-rent trade, but if you have the misfortune to run into them, don't get drawn into their inner drama of resentment and misogyny. It ain't about you, and if you don't feed their neuroses they will move on to hating some other girl soon enough.

First I have yet to be turned down although it may be happening now as I expected to hear back sometime ago from an attempted contact through P411... If I don't hear back how can I take that personally?  I know that I am always clean, courteous and complimentary with every woman I have met in this facet of my life so it is unlikely that I have any negative baggage.  That being so, if I don't hear back from my current request, I'll try a second time and if I don't get an appointment I will assume, since she does not know me, that something in her life is preventing us from getting together that has nothing to do with me.  

That only happened once to me.  A great provider with whom I'd booked a date contacted me and said, after reading my reviews and seeing the kind of girls I liked, she wasn't sure we'd be a good fit.  I assured her that my interests were broad enough to include her.  We saw each other and had a great time.  But, yes, your way of doing research is a good one.

Charlie, that's fine if you have enough info on them already.  If not, it will just enrage them even more. I think it's best to ignore.  Ultimately, they'll go away.

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Thanks for that! Yes, there are many ways of avoiding dumb asses, and where you advertise, how much you charge, and what you put out there, has a lot to do with it. I am not saying you can't still run into morons who have money to spend, but the MAJORITY of guys booking only multi hour dates, are rarely ever the bang for the buck type. I've been at all ends of this market, and I can tell you the clients I have had in the past few years, are a hell of a lot better than the shit I started out with.  

The guys who appreciate the service we offer without falling in love, and the ones who take it for what it is, and nothing more. They are not cheap, show up clean, are cool to hang out with, but also won't let a provider walk all over them on the boards or anywhere else. They hardly ever book only an hour, either.

Lmao, oops my bad...I don't know why I thought this was a dude. Sorry Courtney!!

I'm glad the time factor was thrown in too. It makes sense as they're willing to say with their hard earned cash, "You're worth it to me. In fact, I want to spend even more time with you."

When you are making a decision that someone else does not like, make it, offer whatever explanation you feel appropriate (pleasantly if possible), along with a brief apology if you know up front it is going to piss the other person off, and then let them vent without any further reply.

It's all good

Sounds like something I would do, lol

The world tends to think people in our profession deserve to be treated as lower class, or bad people. Not so, and we don't have to be if we don't want to be. That's all I was saying.

Speaking for the guys of that type, we channel our latent sexual frustrations through expert cunnilingus and wry forum banter.

I receive pm's all the time stating some guy is talking stank about me on this forum, and it makes me think wow I really stay on these guys mind it does not bother me in the least.  My twin has told me when she tours some even book with her to talk bad about me.  lol  

Wisconsin Nice Beats Minnesota Nice Hands Down

Your guys tell you what you want to hear .
 That's fair , in their presence  you do the same to them .  

Never been to Minnesota. Interesting. I would have to agree just based off of all the other states I have visited and my personal experiences

but it's good information to know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKpQRjj_Wb

haha, that's funny. Good point!

She should raise her rates.

I love good stories. Sent that one to my sis

with them or sending mean emails when they deny seeing them. YES, it happens.

her ad on any site and contact her, she should understand that what she needs to do is filter these emails.

she's constantly advertising.  

Happens. Move on.  

86 the people you dont want in your life and hold tight to the ones you care for that make you feel good. its that simple, there s always gonna be trouble makers , catty men and women, haters, sore sports and the like, dont pay attention to them . stick with the fun care free people that dont take everything in life or themselves for that matter so seriuos, and you l be fine. If they dont mean anything to you then dont waste your energy worrying what they are doing. And keep a third degree 6 ft 2 black belt close by . at all times if what you fear is retaliation of a violent sort from them, !!!xoxox

I was at the "hourly" market, and could not stand it so I changed that. Did I hate all the guys I saw? No, but I can tell you that I like about 80 percent of the guys I see now, and only about half when I charged by the hour. That's a huge gap, and I did not change anything other than the damn minimum.

11 inch heels and a black belt would help me until I can afford a bodyguard, ahhaha

I first thought you meant someone calls to ask for a date.
You (or your friend) ask for references.
They say, "I've seen you before."
You think hard, ask for hints, but still can't place them and so DENY HAVING SEEN THEM IN THE PAST.
They say, "I saw you in Detroit."  
You say, "I've never even been in Detroit!" and DENY having seen them or knowing them.