I saw a provider a few weeks ago who told me that a high profile hobbyist had at first helped her career with a positive review and by posting her praises on local boards when she was coming into other towns - when she first started.

But then she said he started demanding extra free time from her - as payback for his unsolicited gestures - and threatened to post bad reviews and negative posts about her if she didn't give him freebies and extra perks.  What a slimebucket!

I've heard of renegade LE doing this to others - demanding freebies not to arrest them or turn them in, but not of having hobbyists try to use reviews and these boards against girls.

Could they get any sleazier?  Is there a vehicle for such aholes to be banned from this or other similar sites if they do that?

That is down right mean spirited and their handle name etc..should be posted for everyone to BEWARE of those who do that to ladies .

believe their influence is much bigger than it really is.  I recently met a gentleman who repeatedly told me how he has made ladies careers by giving them good reviews.  The implication is of course a bad review from him could break a lady.

Too bad he thought my hands were "disgusting, gross, and really deformed."  Well, maybe if I had shown more deference or knocked off a few bucks for him after he mentioned my rate he would have been kinder in the review.

Truth is he only comes out looking like a buttcheese and now everyone can read the review and watch out for him.  Just like most of us do when posters are unduly harsh or show misogynist tendencies.

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The hobbyist should follow the "golden rule" of treating others like he himself would want to be treated.  If a hobbyist can't say something nice about a lady, he shouldn't say anything at all.

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Quite another to try and threaten a lady with a review. In my opinion guys that do this are idiots and cowards. I tend to agree that they have an inflated sense of their own importance. I would hope that any lady feeling she has been wronged by one of these losers would go to the admins here for satisfaction and even consider outing the guy on your local board.

either good or bad.  Especially if she has consistant reviews prior to me meeting her.  Rare is the lady that does not live up to the majority of her reviews - good or bad.  I am just not that important for her career in this profession.  I have heard of this sort of thing - many times.... and have never understood why some guys think that they have this type of power... We all have very different tastes... and while one guys hottie or activity may be, to him, earth shattering, to another.... well, it just is not his cup o tea.  

YMMV is more than just something you write, it is an actual phenomena.  And I take it into account whenever I read a review.... it just is....

Hmm... I treated him like I treat every gentleman. I talked to him while leading him into my incall, had candles lit to set the mood, dressed in lingerie,etc..

Even rereading my post I wasn't calling him names or outing him.  Not sure how I could have broken the golden rule.

I'm pretty sure Keystonekid was not refering to you.

You said nothing wrong in your post.

Just my opinion...
B

how consistent they are given their other reviews and the reviews of the provider he is reviewing.

If he stands out in contrast to the other reviewers too many times, then his opinion will be dismissed.

Discerning hobbyists can and do check the records of the reviewers upon whom he is depending to meet a well regarded provider.

The moral here is to never stoop to blackmail from such a person.  Ultimately your good reviews will carry you and his bad review will sink him.

You don't seem the type to do it, but if you expressed disappointment in a lady that you spent time with, I'd think twice before seeing her.  You post a lot, and seem to come from a grounded place.  The problem comes when someone who posts a lot on a particular board feels that they've developed a power base because of it.  I've met one or two of them, and usually they're harmless and honestly try to help a lady by keeping her name out there.  Unfortunately, they can also wield that power for evil.  It happens more than most of us care to admit to.

"Trusted Reviewer".

The guy that tells new ladies how he "made" this or lady's career by being her first review...and he can do it for her too...for a discount.

The guy that demands off menu activities or unsafe activities in exchange for a good and refusal of the same brings threats of negative reviews.

The guy that crosses lines, breaks rules, does things he should not during a session and then threatens a bad review if anything is said against him with the added incentive of "you are just a [insert derogatory term here], and I am a trusted reviewer, respected hobbyist.  Who do you think everyone will believe?".

The guy that emails a lady months after he reviews her to point out how many reviews she got since his and states he deserves a freebie for all the he helped her get and all the money he helped her make.

The guy that wants discounts and special treatment or he will write a bad review and assures her because he is so respected on the site he will be believed.  

The guy that extorts free sex and / or unsafe practices from ladies because she needs good reviews and if she doesn't play along he will destroy her ability to earn a living.

It happens, a lot, talk to many ladies and you will find most have had at least one of the scenarios happen to her.  

I am a newbie and had only heard a few providers mention having sleazbags pull chit like that.  It sounds like you've heard of a lot of this.  I can't stand how many slimeballs there are that would stoop to such things.

One provider, who confided that it had been a very slow period and some locals were hurting for business including her, told me she had several clients low balling her by showing up with 50 or 100 less than her gift expectation with a "take it or I bail" stand.  Now I can't believe they'd get very good service after pulling a stunt like that, but she admitted she took it.

I'd never think of doing that kind of chit to anyone no matter how many times I've been burned in this hobby.  But it just gets both sides of the equation working angles to protect themselves from the other - which sucks!

Providers need to comunicate to each other about these scumbags.

Or conversely, if the critics pan a movie? I guess the answer for me is sometimes, but it's not usually the over-riding and determining factor.

I like Albert Brooks' work. I'll see any movie he is in no matter what the critics say. There have been times when I walk out of the theater shaking my head saying, boy the critics were right about that one. Other times, I liked the film despite what others said about it. Either way, I look forward to the experience and almost without exception take something positive away from it, even if the movie was less than I'd hoped for.

Likewise, Pauley Shore could win the Best Actor award and I will not see any film he is in- period.

As to the ladies, well reviewed(number of reviews) providers give me a comfort level that I am dealing with someone who is who they claim to be. I use reviews first and foremost for that purpose.

A provider's appearance is the second thing I look for. If I don't find her to be "my type" or attractive to me then I am less likely to see her no matter how glowing other "credible reviewers"
write about her.

Finally, review ratings-- I generally toss out the top 2 and bottom 2 and read the reviews in the middle. That way, my expectation level is set at the typical hobbyist experience not the extremes, good or bad. Who the reviewer is is generally inconsequential to me, assuming the lady has many reviews. Everyone has a good or bad day, both provider's and hobbyists alike.

I have on rare ocassion seen ladies who had few reviews- a classic roll of the dice move we all advise against. I think this is probably the time a "credible reviewer" might sway me if he claims the experience was a disaster or writes something which gives me pause about her discretion, etc.

Once a lady has a host of reviews, however, one review- good or bad, will not carry much weight, no matter who writes it. It's the established pattern that I look at.

And like particular actors I enjoy seeing, once I've experienced a particular provider, reviews on that provider don't matter to me at all. If I want to see her again, it'll be because of what I think about her, not what anyone else's critique of her is...

**"Academy Award Provider"** experience that I have reviewed-- Amber Lane in Tampa.

**BEST REVIEW I'VE NEVER WRITTEN**-- xxx star Gauge, several years ago when she was on the cicuit. She had only 2 reviews and both were mediocre at best. Like my obsession with Albert Brooks movies, I was going to see her no matter what. And she blew me away-- literally...lol.

**Best Movie** I've ever seen-- Hmmm...got to go with Patton...and war flicks are not even my favorite genre!

there are communities that have men (as well as women) basically whipped into submission. Those who give a lot of discounts to clubs and those men who belittle others who aren't in the clubs feel the pain. Believe me, it's out there. It's just a modern-day way of pimping. Urgh!

Hugs,
Ciara