I'm pondering hanging it up now that the relationship is improving with the wife.  I'm ambivalent though.  What if it gets worse?  Should I renew my p411 or not?

but I don't have any delusions about any relationship that I enter lasting "forever" So I don't actually "quit the hobby" I just choose not to indulge in it if I have to 'cheat" on someone to do it.

Otherwise not until it fell off....   but keep the p411 at least for a year or two.  if you don't actually use it-  no harm no foul.  On the other hand having built up your 'hobby infrastructure''. (P411. Accounts/cash.  Phones etc) it's sort of a shame to just toss it the investment.  After all. things could go right back the way they were.

...either getting busted by the missus, or abandoning this hobby completely and going back exclusively to being a stripclub monger.

But if it was legal, and everyone was doing it on both ends.  It would be sort of like the internet with so much crap to wade through it might not be worth the effort.  I like it the way it is with brave people on both sides of the equation not afraid to live their lives their way, a little bit outside the lines - those are the people I like to be with.

If I stop getting excited about a session (a little bit of butterflies in my stomach when I knock on the hotel door). Let's face it, this hobby is not exactly cheap - I can think of a lot of other hobbies that I can blow my money on. Also another reason would be if it becomes way too much work for me to hide it from my SO. Like constantly looking over one's shoulder, then I would think the fun part is not worth the effort anymore and I would look for a new hobby.

Yeah that looking over the shoulder for 5 straight years thing is beginning to drag on me.  Too much nervousness and not enough happy anticipation.

My pulse stops beating. But even then I can think of a couple faves that might be able to revive me !

If she and I "run away" together, I'll never look at another lady again.  Many obstacles to running away together right now, however.

the fact that you're a Cardinal lol?

His Holiness refuses to give me the dispensation I need!

I can start to feel myself getting bored.  I see pics of cute ladies, and  start to think of the effort and money for a fleeting hour that won't in reality be that much different than the last cute lady.

Death or major disability would stop me ... glad things are going well with your wife. I went thru those phases with BOTH of my ex wives. I think it has something to do with the moon phase and Planetary Alignment, whatever it is, it comes and goes. I'd keep my 411 current - it's not like you have to use it.

Well, that is good stuff!

If you want to be "brave" do it out in the open and tell the naysayers to "Go Fuck Themselves!!!"  

To those of u who enjoy it and can get their rocks off consistently in these experiences, more power to you. My beast just can't be contained anymore in the parameters of such. Physically it has become impossible! I mean literally impossible to be able to act in such situations. Fucking crazy actually. A break has already occurred. Back to the civvie world strictly. Will I be back. Maybe in 40 years or so! Lol. When I'm close to DEATH. Seriously. That is what this hobby should be for, when you're close to DYING. I crack up every time I hear someone say most of these women are "pros". What da fk. Fg perspective is fucked up I say. Them dudes have no freakin idea what a pro is. They have been married too long and stuck in that bullshit (for most of them) or haven't known enough of the outside world at any time. The effort is more in the outside world, more time is needed and involved but the experiences are waaaaaaay better. At least to me.

Close to death??  Most (90 %) of my clients are still young, spry, and walking upright

absolutely nothing!!!!

it's called divorce, and oh it's worth it

Both you and HectorBlack couldn't have said it any better.  This world ceases to exist once I'm in a committed relationship.  End of story.  I'm either all in or I'm not.  

What about his pappy though....macdaddy1904?

I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.

True. I don't want to date. Have you seen the man-hating,over 40, AND bitter, group that's out there?? Fucking scary. I'll stick with providers

I'll bet you really wanted to play with Biff Tannen.  But Doc Brown cock blocked Biff so that Marty MacDaddy could see you instead.

How about being arrested in a sting operation, and having to call the SO to bail you out. Ouch. That would make me re-think the hobby. Here's another. Contracting an std and then unknowingly giving it to your SO. Double ouch. I would think that would definitely end my hobbying days. Here's one more for fun. Getting comfortable with a new provider only to be busted in on and rolled by her pimp. That would be pretty shitty too. Thank god none of these scenarios have actually happened to me, but they're not outside the realm of possibility. Be careful out there guys. All kidding aside, the best reason I can think of to stop hobbying is that you've fallen (or re-fallen) in love with someone. Ride that horse for as long as you can, and if it ends, the hobby will be here to cushion the blow. ~~~~Rob

Because when you say "If you aren't happy with the sex, man up and divorce her." that's exactly what you're saying.

He said (and allow me to paraphrase) that if you are so unhappy with your home life that you have to start living your life as a lie, then it's time to MAN UP and either fix your marriage or just start over again and stop ruining two peoples lives.  

the love of a good woman.