Define really!

Define like!

My answer, no matter what the definitions are, more likely than not, you will never know for sure.

"How can she really like me if I have to pay to be with her?"

She might like you as a friend. I become friends with most of the ladies i see. You pay because this is her job your paying for her time. This is how she pays her bills, food and rent.

And she does like you as a "friend" , but remember this is her JOB. AKA provider gorgeous woman being paid to fulfill our sexual fantasies with no strings attached.

This should answer your question

Would he be paying if (he didn't think) she didn't like him?

Its kinda like a doctor patient relationship. You come in with a broken leg, and your doc fixes u up.

Your doctor might like u as a patient, but shit u better have some insurance. How can she keep her office open without charging you a copay.

What do you think about this question?

"How can she really like me if I have to pay to be with her?"

I think that question personifies the creed that all hobbysists should pledge allegiance to in order to keep sanity in this hobby.  I am sure that if you become a "regular" and have common interest with a provider that over the course of time you can become friends or she can like you as a person, but to think that a provider actually is interested in being your SO or willing to have sex with you without the exchange of $ is foolhardy and has already been discussed at length on the board before.

why complicate things is what most people fail it.  its called playing pretend, the girl pretends she likes me, and i pretend to believe her and play along.

The question is too simplistic.  For the average affluent provider, the provider does NOT charge someone she likes for sexual intimacies – johns pay and friends get freebies.  However, low volume providers, with little or no civilian income, do not have the luxury of rewarding their friends with free favors.  I consider my favorite provider to be a friend and I honestly think they she considers me a friend.  She was laid off from her civilian job and now has  several low paying part-time jobs,  She charges me, but demonstrates her friendship by generous off-the-clock time.  

The payment is not for sex. I can get sex without paying.

Rather, the payment is to enable a lifestyle that allows us to share time together; because otherwise she'd be shuffling papers in a skyscraper somewhere.

Thus it is perfectly possible to pay a fee, and the woman like you.

I should distinguish between "like" and "truly desire." The fact that a provider may like you as a person does not necessarily mean that she harbors romantic fantasies about you. Furthermore, any "liking" can encompass a range of contexts that stretches from "prefers as a client because he shows up and pays while treating me respectfully" through "screw this whole hobby thing, I'm gonna GRAB this man!"

I pay for three reasons unrelated to sex.

1. To enable a lifestyle that allows us to see each other
2. To compensate the woman for the fact she cannot pursue a normal romantic relationship with me.
3. The payment creates a credibility gap that makes *actual* seduction (as opposed to the play stuff) difficult

I will admit that I start froThe payment is not for sex. I can get sex without paying.

Rather, the payment is to enable a lifestyle that allows us to share time together; because otherwise she'd be shuffling papers in a skyscraper somewhere.

Thus it is perfectly possible to pay a fee, and the woman like you.

I should distinguish between "like" and "truly desire." The fact that a provider may like you as a person does not necessarily mean that she harbors romantic fantasies about you. Furthermore, the "liking" can encompass a range of contexts that stretches from "prefers as a client because he shows up and pays while treating me respectfully" through "screw the whole hobby thing, I'm gonna GRAB this man!"

I pay for three reasons unrelated to sex.

1. To enable a lifestyle that allows us to see each other
2. To compensate the woman for the fact she cannot pursue a normal romantic relationship with me.
3. The payment creates a credibility gap that makes *actual* seduction (as opposed to the play stuff) difficult

This is a question you can answer on the 1st and 2nd visit.   Normally, the first visit tells you whether you are compatible or not - call the first visit 'the price of admission' - for both hobbyist and provider.  The provider risks being with an unpleasant fellow or with law enforcement, and the hobbyist risk being with a lady who does not do it for him. Reviews help, but sometimes it doesn't.  I was with a well-reviewed lady 2 weeks ago who I've seen a couple of times, and she apologized for not being in the mood because she just broke off with a long-time BF that day.  

Sometimes the provider and hobbyist click .. sometimes not.  No matter how professional the provider is, sometimes 'chemistry' is just not there. And no matter how well-behave the hobbyist is, some providers just ain't doin the job.  

I think 'like' is a relative thing. Providers can 'really like' a fellow during the time she spends with him - after that is another story.  Many Hobbyists are that way too - Hobbyist can "like" the lady during the time they are with her because they are having great sex. It does not mean he's going to put up with her yapping, chitchat, sob story, borrowin money, etc etc etc.  That's why there's a saying 'she's pretty, beautiful, and hot, but I ain't puttin up with her shit.'.

Now if you go past the 5th visit and she's giving you the best sex you ever had, then there's definitely something there.

Let's not forget - some ladies like us because we're the answer to their financial problems, and at the same time, we might just be their booty call for that moment in time. LOL.    

...protection for both of us.

Didn't work.

And anyway, who cares?  You're paying so that it doesn't matter if she likes you.  You don't have to like her either.  No one has to like anybody.

It's way easier that way.

Fuck you all.

In many cases I can see that each lady I have been with are very happy to see me...and even happier as I leave.  But in some cases you can connect on a much different level if you are willing to put in the time and spend the $$$ with a lady.  Most guys here are not into spending those $$$, but would be willing to spend the time (OTC).  And most ladies will not waste their time with those johns.  

However, in my experiences now I have found several ladies that I have seen for multiple dates and lenghty ones at that.  And in one particular instance, that has been going on for nearly a year now.  The question of whether she likes me is answered in part by her willingness to see me outside the bedroom and the way the "relationship" has morphed over time.  But paying her is a very important necessity to maintain the boundaries for each of us.  

I have no doubt many of the ladies here can put up a terrific front for us guys..and many of us leave a session with the "stupid smile" on our faces.  But that should not be confused with whether she likes me or not.  This is a job for most (if not all) of the gals here, and that should never be lost in the way one approaches emotions here.  There are numerous stories (on both sides) of "real connections" and "love", but in the end these are far more complicated than your original question.  

I do believe that for most of us here we are all able to understand the dynamics in play.  Where it gets confusing is when one side develops a "real" feeling for the other...and most often that never turns out good.  What each guy needs to remember is that the lady is supplying a service, and at times it can become a situation like a doctor/patient infatuation.  You still pay your doctor to fix what ails you, and I suspect he/she can really like you, but that is as far as that relationship will evolve.  The doctor will move on to their next patient, and if they have any kind of bedside manner will make the next patient believe that they are truly interested in their conditions.

I cannot speak for anyone other than myself, and a little for what I directly see in the ladies I have spent time with.  As others have said, “like” has a wide range of meanings but I can say with certainty that a number of the ladies have to one degree or another liked me.

I understand some guys do not want any emotional connection at all and would turn a blind eye to and “liking” directed their way.  But I do not understand why a man who would like to be liked refuses to believe it when it happens.  I have heard more than once from a lady that she has a regular client she enjoys being with and would like to be casual friends with but the man involved refuses to believe it, even to the point of saying he does not believe that she can like him.

Can some men have so little self confidence?  I guess so.

But we're not cheap. None of us. Not monetarily, emotionally, or spiritually.

I'd a done the same thing and told her to get bent.

And in all actuality probably speak for most of the players here.

Most, but not all.

Your gonna pay either way if its a chick u like dinner for 2 is gonna cost u around 50.00 or more.

Merry her surely your gonna get your wife's hair and nails done. Not to mention the divorce settlement lol.

Ask Tiger Woods

I get laid when I can And She gets laid when she wants wether she gets paid make no difference in the outcome.  As long as we are both polite I do not need feel that she likes me.

The payment is not for sex. I can get sex without paying.

Rather, the payment is to enable a lifestyle that allows us to share time together; because otherwise she'd be shuffling papers in a skyscraper somewhere.

Thus it is perfectly possible to pay a fee, and the woman like you.

I should distinguish between "like" and "truly desire." The fact that a provider may like you as a person does not necessarily mean that she harbors romantic fantasies about you. Furthermore, any "liking" can encompass a range of contexts that stretches from "prefers as a client because he shows up and pays while treating me respectfully" through "screw this whole hobby thing, I'm gonna GRAB this man!"

I pay for three reasons unrelated to sex.

1. To enable a lifestyle that allows us to see each other
2. To compensate the woman for the fact she cannot pursue a normal romantic relationship with me.
3. The payment creates a credibility gap that makes *actual* seduction (as opposed to the play stuff) difficult

I will admit that I start froThe payment is not for sex. I can get sex without paying.

Rather, the payment is to enable a lifestyle that allows us to share time together; because otherwise she'd be shuffling papers in a skyscraper somewhere.

Thus it is perfectly possible to pay a fee, and the woman like you.

I should distinguish between "like" and "truly desire." The fact that a provider may like you as a person does not necessarily mean that she harbors romantic fantasies about you. Furthermore, the "liking" can encompass a range of contexts that stretches from "prefers as a client because he shows up and pays while treating me respectfully" through "screw the whole hobby thing, I'm gonna GRAB this man!"

I pay for three reasons unrelated to sex.

1. To enable a lifestyle that allows us to see each other
2. To compensate the woman for the fact she cannot pursue a normal romantic relationship with me.
3. The payment creates a credibility gap that makes *actual* seduction (as opposed to the play stuff) difficult

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-- Modified on 3/22/2011 12:26:47 AM

I can't remember the last time I got off that cheap for lunch, of course I consume a lot of alcohol, that "might" have something to do with it. lol

ladies such as the ones depicted, and present, here, do not exist, or are unrecognizable as such due to the layers upon layers of clothing they have to wear. I travel and pay for the opportunity to MEET a lady. I have been fortunate enough to meet many ladies who are open enough to "hitting it off" with someone that the "OK, let's fuck so that you can leave" vibe is either not present or well-hidden. And there are several ladies I've met with whom I'll be friends with forever. There are open, friendly, hesitant, stand-offish, and difficult people on both sides here, and there are assholes, too. It's all in the level of desired connection, and the presentation thereof. I like like!

People can like other people despite the payment of money. I genuinely like many of my clients and they pay me to do their work.  A provider won't know if she likes a client or not until they meet. Thereafter, she may enjoy providing a service to someone she really likes. She may enjoy less, or not at all, providing a service to someone she doesn't.  

Like as in I wanna date him or have be my boyfriend? That'll never happen.

I can like as in he's cool company like, i'm going to show him a good time like but it won't go further than that because he met me paying me first.

Value meal.

Do I have to genuinely like someone in any other profession in order to do business with them? Nope. Can I put on a  professional demeanor and do my job even if I don't like you and no matter what profession I'm in? Yes. In THIS business, if I don't really like you do I ever have to see you again? No, I don't... and I won't.

A professional in the service industry will (or should at least) always make the client feel as if they are the most important thing at the moment. That is what they get paid to do. Said professional could very well hate EVERYONE'S guts, but as long as he or she is doing their job and making you feel important, they are doing their job correctly. Unless you have developed an ongoing relationship with said person I don't even think it matters what they REALLY think so long as they're doing their job. Hell they generally don't even KNOW you beyond a few basic facts until you divulge more information to them. Getting to know someone can take time but if I keep on making time to get to know you there must be something I like about you.

I should add that I usually genuinely like almost all of the men that I see. One of the things a lot of us in this business are able to do is find things likable about almost all of our clients. No matter how much money is involved, it's really hard to fuck someone that you can't stand.

I dig fine dining and all; some nights I just can't live without a gaudily prepared plate of Steak and Lobster... but any chick who thinks she's too good for a burger or a taco stand is too pretentious for me. Besos!

I actually genuinely do enjoy my clients... most all of them. In fact most all of what I do is reality because I enjoy meeting new people and entertaining.

Date her You will pay for it.

Marry Her it will cost you alot more then $. Throw your soul in too..

Or you could pay me....

Why give it away when I don't have too..

If in the civie world and  I meet you, You would have to pay for it too...
( one way or another)

Ask any woman if she is honest she will tell you the same...

In civie life, ladies want time out the wazoo, attentiveness galore, lots of proof that you want them not just for sex, etc.

Quite often, they also pose an insoluble puzzle in that they also want you to be devoted exclusively to them; but the more exclusively devoted you are, the more they will take you for granted.

Though I absolutely do NOT accept the often bandied-about premise that all women are providers under different guises; I definitely agree that there is no free lunch.

There is also no free lunch when dealing with men. Though the payments men extract from women might not be as materially obvious as the other way around, they are certainly required.

you got two bucks, you got a meal (and usually a yummy one!)

Where else can you get cheeseburger with two patties (McDouble), a small bowl of oatmeal ($2), a large Diet Coke, and a salad for $5 plus tax? I love oatmeal.

Where do they wash their hands? No thanks.

NOt sure what s  your question is...
But nothing is FOR FREE IN life
Eventually you have to pay
at least she charges up front
no surpises



-- Modified on 3/23/2011 1:54:37 PM

Or this place in Chinatown/Gallery Place (DC), there's a place called Clyde's. Even with a drink maybe two with a friend or my brother or something. 50 for lunch for 2 people is very possible.