Jewish Lightening. Drastic measures for sure but hey...WTF...Property values are still up for the forseable future. Contact my attorney. Bill Handel
I have a small rental home. It is currently rented out by a single 28 year old female with an 8 year old child, who goes to school part time, and is an artist part time. She is an attractive little hard body, and yes I must confess this is part of why I chose her as a tennant. I did tell her when she signed the lease that I was not in a position to have a tennant that could not pay the rent. I told her, as I told my previous tennants that if the rent was even a day late, I would have to start evection procceedings. She did very well paying the rent for the first 6 months, and we developed a friendly raport when I went over there to check on things, etc. Upon a recent visit she told me that she could not pay the rent on time, and offered sexual services if I would accept a 2 week delay in payment. I think she sensed that I was very attracted to her, me being 48 and over the hill, and she being a hot young thing. I told her that I would not feel right taking advantage of her in this way, and that I couldn't do this to her and I felt I would be praying upon her, etc., etc., although I was dying to. She told me that it would not be l ike that and that I would really be helping her out. Well I sucombed, and we started to make out. She then told me it was her time of the month, and we could reschedule. I was too worked up at this point, and she agreed to finish me orally. Well it was a great blow job and she allowed me to ejaculate in her mouth. I told her thanks, she was wonderfull and beautifull. I was tempted to offer her a discount on the rent as well, but then thought that might be insulting to her. Two weeks later the rent came as promised. Several weeks later, when I saw her, she asked if I would be intersted in trading sex for rent, which is 1100.00 per month. Again I told her I couldn't take advantage of her etc. She begged that this would really help her out, and allow her to continue to work part time. She made a very generous offer in terms of her services, I can come by on a daily basis and recieve oral sex for about 20 or 30 minutes depending upon when her child is out of the house. I'm very tempted as things in my business have been going well recently, and if I am sexually satisfied in this way I can focus on the rest of my life beter. I told her that I would think about it, as I felt guilty morraly having her do this or become this. If I agree to do this, I would also want to fuck her at least once, or I would go crazy. My question is this. Is this a good idea? Is this morraly wrong?
You already answered you own question. Review your comments and think about it.
I have your solution.... Sell me the building.... Somehow I will figure out the right thing to do... ![]()
The things are escalating...first she notices you have the hots for her.
Then she is "late" on the rent and she offers a little trade to get you going.
Then she see that you really enjoy her and go for the kill...sex for the rent.
Now...if you are married, which will be her next step? Oooops get pregnant? Ask you for money "or else"?
She is playing you, she knows you want the sex and she is digging a hole for you to fall deeper and deeper.
Like in any business situation, business is business and should be left at that...never shit where you eat.
Get her out now that you still have grounds. Once you get involved with her, well, the balls (yours) will be in her court and you can say goodbye to them.
You are thinking about morals, she is thinking "what a sucker!".
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Backdoor girl is right on the money on this. You all ready crossed the line with the bj. You can get into deeper dodo if you ever attempt to evict her. It would be her word against yours if you ever had a 3rd party mediate or she complains to the authorites. My suggestion would be to get a lawyer and discuss options on how to handle.
NOW WHAT IF.......she is a provider and hasn't told you , then you are getting a hot provider at a discount. now you are being a hypocrit if you look down on her for what she is doing. decide how much the service is worth and then give her a receipt for cash for the rent payment she earned.
BDG is right... even the worst dog won't shit where he sleeps and though you get a temporary "fix" from all of this, where is it leading? She's got you sized up dude and, she's driving you to Cleveland. Ask yourself, why do I like taking it up the ass?
As for her, sad more than pathetic. She will not learn the lesson in this until its too late and she tries to "play" someone else only to have her family be the one to ID her remains and leave yet another child without parents. Get the picture now?
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if you are not sure which side of the fence you are on...send me her phone number!
i think we could close the deal!
Dude.......
PLEASE make my day and bang her six ways to Sunday. Just knock yourself out and have a good old time. When she gets tired of your pot belly and sweaty balls, I will laugh myself into fits when she ups the ante on your little mega-cheap arrnagement and she decides she's worth fair market value for her services. A real provider would knock a $3K hole MINIMUM in your wallet or more for daily service, even at half hour increments and you know it scumbag.
Remember that lovely nighty of wifey's you splooged a month or so ago? When this hot little number gets done raking you over the coals, and passes the torch onto wifey, I guess dear old wife won't have to worry about being sexually assaulted by her "loving" husband in the middle of the night anymore.
Three problems solved in one fell swoop. Firstly, the hot little number gets a roof over her head for a while, secondly your wife will at long last enjoy a night's sleep without having to worry about your pathetic a$$ assaulting her, and thirdly, if there is a God, one of these dear ladies will do the world a favor and bobbitize you when your dirty little secret is uncovered as it surely will be.
Life is good. So bang away buddy, and let us know how it turns out.
while you can, and as often as you can. As it is now, you WON'T be able to evict her, and she's set the pattern for "no rent money, just sex". So get wildly fucked/sucked, but be prepared for the worst.
She holds the cards now.
She can go to the cops any time she feels or threaten to in order to extort you. This isn't just the slap on the wrist misdemeanor that soliciting prostitution will get you.
Do the right thing. You know what you have to do. If you really do have feelings for each other and want a relationship, it simply can not co-exist with your tenant-landlord relationship.
You made a crucial error in judgment already, why compound the mistake exponentially? As I once heard a wise fictitious character say: "never shit where you eat"! (I think BDG likes the same tv show I do)
This girl now has you by the short hairs
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She has a free place for life. Like other have said, you stepped over the line and now she can sue you as it is now her word versus yours. Who to you think the courts will side with a young desperate woman with a child or a older "well off" landlord?
BDG is right, and so is almost everyone who posted here. Forget morality, the sooner you get out of this, the less damage to your life. As it is now, it can be already be very damaging.
You should have stuck with the sex-for-money arrangements, with someone who you otherwise have no other business dealings.
...as the landlord an all? Then you should wait till she's asleep one night, quietly sneak into her bedroom and shoot a load on her and then leave. I don't know that this will accomplish anything, but it may just freak her out enough to where she may think twice about taking your ass to the cleaners, which is where it's headed. And besides, who can say they've done that to 2 "tasty little bitches" (I'm assuming she's in the same category as your wife)? You! That's who. Don't let these others get you down, you're still getting my vote for Hobbiest of the Year!
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Palimony and potential rights to your place seem possible when things get dicey (and they will).
I think you probably know that you already went too far. But it can and will get worse. Don't do it dude. Really, if something inside is telling you this is wrong....listen!
-- Modified on 7/25/2006 9:32:29 AM
Like everyone else here has said, you fucked up...big time.
Here's one way this can play out:
She may actually give you a few more BJs, and then will start having reasons not to, or can't because of her son or whatnot, but will still not want to pay rent.
Once she breaks your "deal", if you attempt to evict her, she simply contacts the correct authorities and explains how you demanded a BJ or you would evict her...she can tell a harrowing story of how you came by and tried to force her to (and hey she even describe your dick) and that she believes you only rented to her in the first place with forcing sexual favors in mind, or say that you succeed in forcing her to and that now you are demanding more and because she refused you are attempting to evict her.
Now, this is a great story, and there is no way newspapers won't want to cover it...
Your wife will know about the allegations anyway, but public embarassment is so much the better...and she will recall the night you decided to use her as a spooge rag, and might just believe what the tenant is saying about you. That can lead to divorce proceedings. That will be public record, and the news won't be able to resist the story of the "Sexual Harassment Landlord" being divorced, by his "tasty little bitch" wife.
On the bright side though, if it is a unique and interesting enough story, it could get picked up by other news aganecies and go nationwide...and then when anyone that is a member here sees the story of the "BJ Landlord" they can think back on this post and know who you are...and if someone wants to maybe make a few bucks, they can contact a newspaper with links to this post and the "I shot my load on my wife aren't I cool" post and your 6 reviews...that should get public opinion on your side...
Is it morally wrong...I don't think you care one way or other, I think you made this post to brag (like you bragged about spooge target practice with your wife) about your good deal with your tenant and how you got "tasty little bitch #2" to blow you and how you will eventually fuck her...problem is, if you are telling the truth, you fucked yourself, not a lot to brag about there.
Best case scenario: you get a few BJs out of this and she holds the threat of outting this occurrance over your head should you ever try and evict her.
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WANDERER59 I can relate to the position you was put in myself. I also rent out a property and was offered (services) for free rent. I declined that invitation. I new better. But whats done is done. Its tough to refuse a BBBJ from a hot woman anyday. I only hope that she is not that type of person to go to the authorities if you do not agree to let her by without paying the rent. I only hope she did not video tape you polishing your knob. If she does you have a very serious promblem, if she doesn't and somehow you get out of this mess be sure you pick this up. Pick it up anyway to see just how deep in shit you might be. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0873374711/103-6013468-7693417?v=glance&n=283155
You told her when she signed the lease that she would be thrown out if she was a day late but now you will trade rent for sex. You sound like a dirty old man and I doubt you feel guilty. I hope this poor girl finds a new apartment with a normal, decent landlord.
Why do other people have all these crazy and inticing stories. Man that might be fun as long as she doesn't know where you other property is.
Jewish Lightening. Drastic measures for sure but hey...WTF...Property values are still up for the forseable future. Contact my attorney. Bill Handel
After the conflagation, the fire investigator questioned the two Hebraic owners while in the remains of the structure.
"I think it was a gas light on the second floor.", opined the first.
"No, I think it was an electric light on the third floor.", commented the second.
"You're both full of shit." barked the investigator:
"I think is was a pair of Israelites on the first floor!"
She now has your DNA (if not the blue dress) which gives her a place to stay for as long as she wants. It's not about the lost rent. What if she claims that you raped her? Suggestion: Stop seeing her immediately. If you don't have a private cellphone get one. Save any messages that she might leave that make clear that her "interest" in you is voluntary and not coerced. In time, create a paper trail that makes clear that she is behind in rent and is subject to eviction. Maybe offer to relocate her because you need the place for a family member. Stop thinking with Lil Head.
You seem to have enough trust in this woman NOT to screw you legally! If it comes down to a legal battle she will win and you will have lost thousands of dollars in legal fees which you could have saved for hobbying.
I think you are wrong to trust this lady that she will NOT take financial advantage of you. She is setting you up and you are falling for it. That is my opnion anyways. One honest moment does NOT make a person trustworthy. You should prepare for the worst case scenario regardless.
I have a friend who happens to be a fellow horn dog as well as attorney. He informs me that it is perfectly legal to have a sexual relationship with a tennant. If the tennant does not abide by the lease regardless she is evictable. It is however illegal to trade sex for anything of financial value. Is that not what the rest of you holleyer than thow MF'ers are diligently engaged in? Why does a site that delves in activity of this nature have more sanctimonius queens than the Papal site? You all act like your Mother Theresa. In order to protect myself I will insist upon a mothly rent check, which would be rebated back in cash at a seperate location. Like any slightly illegal victimless crime there is risk, and precautions must be taken. And please don't worry about the santicty of my marriage, and I won't be worried about yours. I'm sure that none of us have wives that would endorse our lifestyles. I did however ask for advice and I got it, so I should shut up and take it in.
> I did however ask for advice and I got it, so I should shut up and take it in.
Yes you did ask for advice. Very little of the response was hollier than thou (maybe one response about a respectable landlord)... The rest seemed to be out of genuine concern.
The point of this site is about the hobby. What you were doing isn't about the hobby. It is about taking advantage of someone else in a difficult position.
What if she accusses you of rape, or if you get her pregnant, she tells the police you sexually assaulted her, told her to have sex with you for rent or to keep you from evicting her? A sexual relationship with a tennant for free is fine, but getting caught up in other legal problems is what we are trying to avoid. What if she says does not have the monthly rent check, what are you going to cash, and are you going to evict her? Are you going to discuss with her all the legal ramifications of this relationship?
then I for one am glad you will TOFTT. Can hardly wait for your 'I should have stayed home' review about the tenant...
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Quite a few years ago, I flew airplanes for a living, and had one of my own. I flew alot of business people around, and one of my clients was a gal about 40 or so, and owned a shop downtown. She would have me fly her to meetings, conventions, etc., about once every 6 weeks or so. One time she brought up the idea of an 'alternate payment'. Since I was about 24 at the time, and she was pretty hot, I accepted. After we landed, I'd follow her home, and we'd have a little romp in the hay. This went on for about 2 or 3 years, never a problem. We both understood it was a business arrangement, no more no less. I realize it was alot different than a tenant relationship, but it does show that sex as payment can work.
Pal,
I'm not saying you got took, b/c it sounds like you had your fun. But your gal probably would've enlisted you as her fuckbuddy, anyway. As it was, she played her cards right and was able to get FREE flights. If you'd played your cards right, me thinks you might've been "tapping it" for "FREE".