More and more recruiting going on and more upscale girls!

These are underage teenage girls, who are recruited by pimps or are lured by lecherous men offering to buy them clothes and such for sex.  Just because some of the girls come from middle- and upper-middle-class homes does not make it okay.  On one hand, it does show that not all prostitutes come from abusive and poor backgrounds, which I appreciate, but, as a woman, I am sad for young women who choose this lifestyle at too young an age.  The money is very alluring, and a girl can easily lose her way in life at that age.  I would hate to see an intelligent young woman choose prostitution and a fast lifestyle over fulfilling her dreams of a good education and all that goes with it.  Age 21 is not too late to do exceedingly well in this business, and she will have completed at least the first part of her college education, which puts her in a much better, less vulnerable position in life and should make her an even better companion.

For men who just want a very, very young body with no brains, I can see how this would look enticing, but I think those girls are usually used up and tossed away before long, left with their lives in shambles, with no education, their fresh, youthful allure gone, often a substance-abuse problem, an abusive boyfriend, and no money.  Use them up and toss them away.  It pains me to see that.

but it seems to me that it would be hard for most young women under 22 or so to be able to handle providing without being damaged by the experience.

If it were up to me no one under 25 would be allowed to be a provider.  (I know this is a generalization) I just think a woman should spend a few years in the "real" world before deciding to be a provider.  I think a 20 year-old fresh out of school would likely be doing it for the wrong reasons, and in the long run wouldn't be emotionally mature enough to deal with it.

and you're excited about teenage providers. There are good reasons for raising the drinking age and there are good reasons why a teenage girl is to young for providing.

I'm proud to be a hobbyist but I would be ashamed being a "chicken-hawk".

I certainly agree with 4Love's reaction that this creeps her (?) out, but look at the factors in society that drive the young girls these days. Marketing and advertising places heavy emphasis on being "in" by dressing and acting like Lolita. The advertisers are reaching down into the 7 and 8 year old demographic ranges and showing them how to dress provocatively and wear slutty makeup.

The money costs to achieve this constructed "cool" are far more than a young girl can get from allowance, skimming at the school bake sale or even extorting from daddy. The money - a girl's gotta have it. One way to get it is from them who's got it.

The social barriers to cheap sex have already been broken down by the advertisers anyway - the only thing left is the real thing.

By the way, this is not restricted to the good ol' US of A. It's become quite the thing for Japanese schoolgirls as well.

While I certainly deplore it happening, I can see why it's happening. And the media sources that report on it in such dire terms don't do much to stop their colleagues who promote and advertise schoolgirl sexuality. (Yes, there are freedom of speech issues involved here that are beyond the scope of this rant.)

I'm not happy that they are getting into the business at 17 years of age. But I'm pleased that this hobby is moving away from the stereotype that these girls come from low-income families and are all druggies. Also, it seems to be growing appeal to girls, so there may be wider acceptance of this hobby, eventually. I'm trying to look at the silver lining here. But I'm not sure, hence the question-mark after my subject title.

Which ones? I don't know of a single state that's raising the drinking age to 25. Maybe they were considering it, but I don't know if they're actually going through with it.

And there are plenty of teenage providers- 18 and 19 y/o prostitutes many men see without any qualms because they are adults. These men may be in their 20s or may be little older. I don't see anything wrong with providers that are 18+.

These girls are just too emotionally immature to handle something like this and the consequences of that are extreme.  What age is a right age?  In depends on the individual and how far along they are emotionally.  

This isn't an easy endeavor to be in and even a lot of older women lack the self esteem and maturity that goes into it and the reasoning that many in this endeavor are often prone to substance abuse.  One has to be very confident in their sexuality and be strong enough to handle the stigmas mainstream society places on ladies such as ourselves.  Just as some individuals could not handle other professions because they lack the traits needed for such, so it is here.

The consequences for gents can be enormous also.  I would stay clear of agencies that tout such young ladies, for I would think they would be the first and foremost targets for LE, especially if one of these young ladies comes from a relatively stable home.  The parents would be up in arms.

For discretionary purposes, I would also think a gent would think twice about visiting such a young lady for I also think that she would lack the maturity of keeping your information discreet.  There has already been a flux of young new ladies entering this endeavor in which protocols of such nature is thrown out the window and in which this endeavor is played more like a game then a business that takes the necessary precautions for all parties well being.  

I can't begin to tell the stories that are being told of gents that are being bombarded with calls from ladies that call on just a whim.  Fine, if she is instructed to do so, but often the calls are unwanted for it does place the gents in precarious positions.  And if she is so precarious in that scenario, can one imagine what it would be if outside parties  were bought into the mix.  We have grown to comfortable in our daliances, thinking we are invinsible, and that is sadly when the boulders begin to fall.  We should always be on our toes.

Young, tight, hard can be easily obtained from a more mature lady also if a gent is up to doing his homework.  I know some do not think of the consequences at times (little head vs. the big one), but do think the gents hold an intrical role in not visiting such places or ladies that are so young.  It just takes a little bit of homework and perhaps thinking about having your daughter, young sister or the like taken advantage of in such a manner that may make it easier in making a choice in who they see.

Lauren

Those young ladies may see many without any qualms NOW, but I promise you there will be deep emotional scars later on. I honestly don't think you're qualified to speak on behalf of the psyche of an 18-19 teenage girl.

Anytime some one is coerced into doing something it's not a good thing. I notice that the fuss in the media lately is all about how middle class girls are becomming providers. Implying that it's not so bad if it's poor girls. The hypocrisy digusts me.

I could not agree more, akitanuki.  The implication is that it's a Problem now that suburban White folks are being affected...but as long as it's the poor, urban Black girls (or poor rural White girls) then it's ok...

...which is funny, since a lot of the johns are from Suburbia anyway...


I honestly believe that if prostitution were legalized in more areas of the country, this kind of streetwalking / pimping would decrease significantly.  Maybe it shouldn't be legal everywhere, but why not establish brothels, say, 90 minutes outside of LA? Or even in industrial parts of LA county, industrial parts of Detroit, etc.

Bringing 17 year olds into the business does not seem like a good idea.  Personally I don't think I want to see any ladies under 25.  However let's not be total hypocrites on this board.  For years girls have been paying their way through college by working as escorts.  I would expect the age range was normally between 18 and 25.  Did these ladies gain more from the college degrees they received than they lost due to emotional scarring.  I don't know and doubt that any one here knows.  

I am sure that many of these ladies have been reviewed on the pages of TER.

I am sure that some of older ladies would like to see these youngsters not in the business for very honorable reasons.  I suspect some would be happy to have less competition also.

The 18-19 year old thinks it is a fun adventure, and enjoys being treated as a fully grown-up woman by older men.  But later in her life, as she does grow up into true adulthood, she realizes that she was taken advantage of, and that causes emotional scars, and can even cause problems in terms of her being able to have trusting relationships with men.

question by treating young providers as a business threat.  They point out reasons why older women are generally sexier than younger women - quite true, of course - and why it is riskier to see younger providers.  All good points.

But what they don't seem to be willing to talk about is what's really being asked, which is how they feel about the emotional readiness of young women to handle being providers.  All they do is make general comments about how "It depends on the individual".

The perenially politically incorrect Bill Maher had a monologue on his "realtime with Bill Maher" entitled "Your daughter's a ho!"  You can click on the link below and if you don't have a salon membership clik on the free day pass to read it.  Of course it's funier to hear Bill recite it.

http://archive.salon.com/opinion/feature/2003/08/20/maher/index_np.html

Meanwhile Slate's Jack Shafer disputes the whole middle class teenage prostitute theory.  I hope he's right.  Not because I value middle-class teenagers more than those who aren't as fortunate but because to me any increase in teenage prostitutes is bad independently of what background they come from.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2086925/

Regardless of whether this news story is true or not this cannot be good for the hobby.  It'll bring increased scrutiny from everyone's favorite attorney general and his Justice Department.  They'll be able to paint the entire hobby in a very bad light.  Don't get me wrong I think that going after pimps is a very good thing but I'm afraid this ultra-conservative bunch may not stop there and may use the abuses of some to condemn other more legit operators such as independent adult providers who are doing this by choice not because they were forced into it.  In other words the classic victimless crime may get lumped in with actual crime where teenagers are victimized.