dont want to give out info...dont see what the point is...
tomorrow April 14th marks the 4th year since the senseless death of Julissa Brisman
Murdered by the Craigslist Killer at the Boston Marriot in Copley Square.
She died in a pool of her own blood, alone.
Next week she would have been turning 29.
This is why we screen. She didn't.
Rest in Peace Sweetheart.
Thanks for the reminder for those providers who don't screen,,This effects us all!
Please play safe people.
the 14th of April is the day Julissa lost her life.
she did not screen
Its not a wake up call or a lesson its a fact.
just remember her on this day. thats the only message I ask of you here. its a sad day indeed.
Nicole
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Amen, Nicole . . . A lovely young lady was lost to this world . . . The rest of this conversation is just noise.
her safety. All hobbyists were new at one time or another. When new, the screening requirements might seem demanding. If a guy doesn't want to give "x" to a lady for verification, then he can either move on to another lady who wants less info or he can take is ball and go home.
Some ladies do want more information than may appear necessary to the average guy. Some guys have a much more visible job and can not offer as much info. There is a place for all to play; just find the right partner.
I have my own way to screen my visitors... But yes I do require first name last initial and phone number and a reference.
I have a hard time if they do not have a reference and do not understand the importance of this.
From my experience from the begining to now things have so changed.
Back in the day, if you asked this information hobbyists wouldnt hesitate to offer the information needed if they wanted to schedule a meeting.. Since I have come out of retirement things are way different and I am adjusting....as quick as I can.. Although I am a creature of habit.. I like the old days...
XOXO
Kat
A lot of women have hurt clients over the years, destroyed their livelihoods, etc. I don't blame anyone for being leery about their information floating around this industry. Its a two way street. If a gentleman has a problem with my screening process, he has the option to seek out someone else.
As providers, isn't this why we use an alias? We want to be safe too. Men have just as much right to cover their asses. What if a guy asked for your first name? Would you tell him? Most likely not. But you know his first and last name, place of work, etc.
How come women use their homes for incall? Aren't you placing yourself at a higher risk for potential problems? I'll never understand that one.
I'm sorry for any provider that has been harmed (or much worse) in this industry, but men have been hurt too.
RIP Julissa Brisman. At least they caught her attacker. Do you have any idea how many crimes go unreported or end up in a cold case file cabinet? At least her family has closure.
then, don't hire providers! no one is forcing any of us to pay for ass! you take the fucking risks that go with cheating on your wife, or not. don't bitch about men being hurt, when they sign up for that shit by coming here. providers don't. they are doing a job!
Who mentioned anything about force? I simply said I agree with both sides as a fellow provider.
BTW...providers do bitch and whine about being hurt. What solar system are you?
tomorrow April 14th marks the 4th year since the senseless death of Julissa Brisman
Murdered by the Craigslist Killer at the Boston Marriot in Copley Square.
She died in a pool of her own blood, alone.
Next week she would have been turning 29.
This is why we screen. She didn't.
Rest in Peace Sweetheart.
She died cause she didn't want to hand over her loot, really how much money is worth fighting over, she could of handed him $200 buck and said that all she had and he would of left.
Apparently she decided to work it all alone, no friends no agency etc etc. Too bad, how many girls working for agencies has even been killed NONE!! and agencies don't even screen shit, you got money, they hook you up.
There is screening and then there is batshit crazy hoops screening where you might as well give her a DNA sample.. Some guys tend to be desperate and let people walk all over them, and some say screw this, your hot and all but not hot enough I want to waste my time on. If enough men stop jumping over hoops, and the said provider have no one calling, I bet she will be desperate to take any calls that come in without screening.
And no one is safe, shit married men kill their wives all the time, cops shoots their wives, I bet she should of screen him before marrying him...LOL
try watching the news. this is not about screening. it is about a girl who died servicing a fucking john, so try having some respect. you are also out of your mind to thnk that a guy who just handed over his full name, place of employment, etc. is just as likely to pull this shit, as someone who hands over a fucking TER handle. that's why so many women require info regardless of how many refs you have. those girls rarely get into trouble.
meeting clients is not the same as dating someone either. you are reaching with that one. these women get paid to fuck STRANGERS with nothing other than a few conversations over the phone, adn the first meeting is usually somewhere they can't call for help or cause a scene. to say a provider will be so desperate for you money because the phone stopped ringing that she must now put her life at risk even more, just proves what a jackass you are.
But, given the line of reasoning you’ve offered here, and your inability to manage a full sentence, grammar or spelling, you seem well qualified.
This is one of those posts where it’s kind of hard to find a starting place. Umm....
Yes. Lets’ just face facts. To start: because the guy was a med student does not mean that ‘women and hookers’ would not be suspicious because all ‘women and hookers’ would, by default, assume a med student was rich and had money.
Secondly: She did not die because she did not want to ‘hand over her loot’. She died because he killed her.
Thirdly: How is it that you know that NO woman working for an agency has ever been killed in this biz? Or, that NO agencies ever screen anyone; that an agencies' only priority is: “you got money they hook you up” ?...really?
Fourthly (is that even a word...lol): a man complying with a request for screening information does not mean he is desperate and letting anyone ‘walk all over him’.
Nor is there any reason to assume that if men (real men?) refuse to provide requested screening info that all 'women and hookers' will become so desperate for business that they will fold like a house of cards, and stop asking for screening info. How many times has this been said. Don’t like the screening info asked for? move on. Simple.
And....”married men kill their wives all the time”...and “cops shoot their wives”?
You really should have your executive assistant screen your communications before public distribution.
Rest in peace Julissa Brisma
then again, it is the internet and we are all fucking CEOs right.
Guess for some people who complain about others being too secretive, they themselves seems to be perfectly fine hiding under alias and throwing insults.. Oh wait I guess its cool to be secretive when it suits your needs.. go figure
Lets get back to the facts:
1. if he provided the information that he was a med student and had whatever info to back it up, I will bet you that most ladies/escort/hookers would give him the benefit of the doubt then a joe shmo who said he was a cashier at McDonald's
2. This guy was a SERIAL ROBBER, who robbed hookers/escorts/working ladies, and he KILLED her because it was a robbery gone bad. He only killed ONE victim, why was that, well it was because it was a ROBBERY gone bad. She tried to fight to keep her cash and well he killed her. Anyone who is trying to make something more out of that, need to stop using this case as some shining example of screening.
3. Fine, stop seeing providers who screen then. BP is litter with providers who do none to light screening. Let see how long some of those stringent providers who wants close to a blood sample will loosen their restriction. If not, maybe its time for another line of "safer" work. Of course most men are pussies and some will give anything up just for it.
4. You think when a guy snaps he gives a shit, about the info he may have provided or not. To say someone is less likely to do bad things just cause he/she has their name out there is ABSOLUTE PURE stupidity on your part.
5. Go ahead and find me ONE case of a agency girl getting MURDERED by their clients in the USA. Every agencies I seen requires far less to barely little screening. You can get the same if not far better service/girl from a agency then if you had to deal with some of the independents.
Oh and men are known to beat their wives, some even kill their lovers/mates... I guess after 1+ to 22yrs of screening them, didn't protect them from that/those faithful day when the guy turned on them huh? Cop kills wife? No never he passed that damn BACKGROUND check.....LOL
Shit, just yesterday a MAJOR in the army shot and kill some girl he help recruit, guess the army didn't properly do their BACKGROUND CHECK either.
I have little to hide, maybe before throwing stones you should take your own advice and not hide behind a alias...
If you want to make men jump over hoops and come close to providing a blood sample, you have every right, and men have every right to do it, but don't think for one second that it may stop a inevitable.
Just like watching the news: when they interview the neighbor after a guy goes nuts... Oh he was such a nice guy, never hurt a fly, I would never believe in a million years he would be capable of it...
Screening only goes so far..
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