IMO, a SB is a step closer to an actual GF. When I see a provider, I'm there for the sex, not social time. I am able to get a GF for social time and she doesn't cost me nearly as much as a SB. And, providers with exclusive offers cost even more. A irl girlfriend typically comes with her own job/money and doesn't expect me to pay for her time and shower her with gifts and expensive meals. Sure, I might pay for the dinner if we go out. But it's not even in the same ballpark of financial expectations. At least, this has been my experience. I know others get into much more costly relationships.

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The last five years, the ladies I have met, were from SB sites .  In general it's a very different approach.   While there are some obvious full time escorts on those sites,  many of the ladies have full-time.

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The same thing, a lot of gentlemen are.   That is enjoyable dates with passion and drama free.   there attitude has been, i enjoy sex.I enjoy evening outs and for years i've been given it away for free.     They look at the five hundred dollars as a bonus.    Also the intimate passion tends to be much more real. And mutual  two way versus even the nicest ter provider can feel transactional  

In most cases, their dating of this type is limited and so are open to getting fully tested. And thus very low risk trustworthy
 BBFS it's common.    

That's all the upside,  the downside is it takes time and effort to find someone That matches one's expectations and even there is no guarantee.What will happen on first dates.    

For me I'm willing to put in the time an effort
And the occasional disappointment to find someone I will repeat with and have the benefits above.  I have been very lucky to find several special women over the years.    However, I certainly see the value in the professional escort to  find a lady quickly Efficiently and a guarantee.  

Just like everything in life, there is no one size to us all.  ( No double entendra intended. Lol!)

The sugar world is a way for men to find a more intimate connection than can be found in the escort world. While “no strings attached” is still the foundation, many men want to move away from the transactional feel of a date with an escort, even those escorts who are most skilled at creating the feel of intimacy. The cost of a well respected escort makes multi hour dates, that may or may not include social time, prohibitive for many men. A SB is most likely open to “off the clock” dates that may last 5-6 hours for a set amount of $$$, with the understanding that this will occur 2-4 times per month. This, in many cases is “found money,” a supplement to their income, or in the case of an SB with multiple arrangements, the way they make a living.  When it works, this type of arrangement is “mutually beneficial.”  I can see why an escort, who’s professional model is based on hourly compensation, would find a sugar relationship not financially worthwhile, unless she could find that “whale” that all SBs seek but who is mostly a myth

As someone who came to this by way of sugar dating, what amazes me is how much better I’m treated, including with gifts and dates, than I ever was as an SB.

With sugar dating, I often felt like I was begging for scraps. I also found that almost all of the men’s attention went to women in their early 20s, so it became hard not to feel bad about myself for being, heaven forbid, older than 30.

My dates now make me feel like a stunningly, beautiful sex goddess as well as a too good to be true quasi girlfriend. I’m able to set boundaries around my body, my time and my rates. I feel incredibly valued for my intellect, sophistication, and emotional intelligence as well as my looks and bedroom skill set.

A girl I had seen a few times wanted to discontinue being a regular provider and took down all her ads. We talked about it and worked out a figure for a monthly stipend in exchange for a “wow” date (major activity such as a concert, first class restaurant, overnight, etc.) once a month. It also included another couple of get togethers (such as for lunch) during the month.

Worked out great for a while. We had incredibly fun times. And we seamed to really like (and enjoy) other. Beyond the agreed upon financial arrangement, I would take her shopping, especially for clothing items. (The girl could shop!) I enjoyed her trying on the items in the fitting room and them coming out to model them for me.

But then things went south. (Kind of like in a “real” relationship.) She had some personal issues (that had absolutely nothing to do with our relationship) and it affected her mental well being. On one of our big monthly dates she said she was depressed due to those problems and was therefore “not in the mood” for any, shall we say, “physical activity.” Of course she said this AFTER she had the money for that month! I let it go because I’m a “nice guy.”  

During our next meeting I politely brought up the subject that if she was not feeling well enough to engage in sex, then we should postpone our date (and the payment) until she was. Her reaction was that she went scorched earth on me! She said that she gave up so much income to see me exclusively and I should have been paying her a lot more than our agreed upon figure. (Our agreement was NEVER specified as exclusive!) She went on and on about how she could get $500 an hour for her time, and that she never liked me, and thought of me as nothing but a “trick” (yes, that was the exact word she used). Needless to say, I gave some of it back to her. (I’ll spare you what I said to her.) This did nothing but bring back memories of my ex-wife!

Well, to make a long story short (oh wait, it’s much too late for that!), I’ll just say my one and only experience with a Sugar Baby relationship did not turn out well and therefore would never again enter into such a relationship.

My SB experiences have been, at best, okay.  At worst, disastrous.  Perhaps I chose badly, but I found the SBs I saw to be flakey and unreliable.  Too eager not to use protection.  Sometimes there were issues with other boyfriends or husbands.  After a year or so, I decided to stick with professionals.  Much better.

How mine happened

Mine was accidental. She did porn and tried escorting briefly. I was one of her first clients. We hit it off and we agreed upon a set rate for longer dates. She stopped doing escorting because she didn’t like it. A friendship developed and we have a great arrangement. We have a pretty good age difference but she takes care of me and vice versa. She is an amazing girl and I know I’m one lucky fucker.

The sugar thing sounds like a fun thing . But as a happily married guy I just don't see how it would ever work. I wonder if there is a hybrid model ? Very similar to a regular provider but with a bit more personal touch ? Thoughts  

It heavily depends on expectations.  Most of the time, It's a dinner date along with sex.  Usually unprotected.  The girl is a girlfriend with lower levels of attachment.  Some fun texting and flirting in-between dates.

Some SBs, my preference, are not seeing anyone else.  Meaning the allowance supplements their life, not being their entire income.  Most start and end on a per date allowance.  Some evolve into a weekly or monthly allowance, paying some of her bills each month, providing an apartment for her, etc.  This is very rare and needs to be discussed at length well in advance.

Negotiate in advance all expectations.  Sex, time, time outside the bedroom, allowance, tests, condoms, other partners outside the arrangement.  

If the two of you decide to become more formal, definitely discuss expectations.  Does allowance change?  Date frequency?  Conversation between dates?  Meeting each other's friends/family?  Posting pics on social media together?

If you are looking for an arrangement while still providing.  You need to be clear you are having sex with other people.  What's in it for one another then?  Are you getting a guaranteed income a few times a month?  Is he getting a lower rate but committing to see you frequently?  Or are you looking to stop providing and only see one person?  If so, what type of support is that?  Would you available for that person enough to make it make sense to them?

I've had three separate SB relationships that lasted around two years each. Each arrangement was great in its own way, although one ended in the most awful way. One is engaged now and we still keep in touch occasionally

one that went according to the original agreement.  She was a 22 year old university student from Norway.  Her father, some kind of diplomat stationed in DC, told her she had to get a job to pay her living expenses while studying in California.  She had gone through a few low-paying jobs before I met her at a party in the neighborhood where I used to live but still knew everyone.  We hit it off and made a deal where I could see her as much as I wanted on 24 ours notice on certain days and times when she was not in classes.  I paid her a monthly fixed amount and it was such an attractive deal for me financially that I ended up not seeing her nearly as many times as I could have.  

 
The other three all started out okay, but after a few months were plagued with last minute cancellations.  Schedule management has always been more important to me than the money, and by wasting my time in scheduling and then having "something came up" issues, these three burned me out on SB arrangements.  I will only see professionals now.  

moved to AZ 17 years ago.  

It was perfect as he lived in VA and the fact that I was here it wasn't an every week type deal. He loved to gamble [Vegas was his favorite go to once a month] we agreed on a monthly stipend and he would fly me out to Vegas once a month to roll the dice at the craps table and just look pretty. We did dinners and shows and when I would first arrive he had already had a spa day set up for me and we didn't do much shopping but if I wanted anything in the spa I could just add it to the room no questions asked and I liked it but I never took advantage of that. Also when I arrived there were always and envelope with at least 1500 dollars in it, some chocolate covered fruit, a gift from DC[usually a sweatshirt or mug [I collected them]] and then we would hit up the craps table and play for  awhile. Whatever he won he would give me a portion of it as well.  He would hit up the high slots machines and put in at least a 100 dollars and once the machine hit over the 100 he would take out the ticket and give it to me.  

I traveled to VA to attend a wedding with him, flew to Chicago and drove to Michigan with his dad and best friend from HS and as long as I didn't tell them when to go to bed [lol] they played until they got tired and I got to spa it again. It was great and when he came out here to visit for work we would go to lunch he ended up buying me a GPS for my car and brought gifts for my kids and pets. It was great for 5 years but then he wanted to get married and I was not looking to get married anytime soon [STILL DON'T] and so we parted ways as friends and we still chat once in a blue moon to check in on each other but it was one of the best SD/SB relationships I had and I had a few shitty ones and that is when I decided to just do this hobby while going to school so I guess it just depends on what you agree on in the beginning and respect the boundaries of each other an also an out of town SD, IF you choose to have that type of relationship, is the best way to go at least it was for me.

If i wanted a SB, id just find a civvie gal and hook her up.  

But...im here for the variety. I dont want to fuck the same gal and have her in the rotation for long durations of time. Defeats the purpose of the quest for variety.  

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But I do find the arrangements interesting when other ladies tell me about them. I like structure too much and I like my off time to be completely off. I know ladies who have arrangements where a man pays a monthly fee, say eight thousand a month, and much more if he wants exclusivity. For that they can text her every day, call for chats, and see her for a few days each month when they come to town, or fly her out for a little extra when they can’t make it. To me that sounds exhausting. I would feel like I was working around the clock with all of that emotional labor. These guys text a good morning message every morning and a sleep tight message every night and expect daily communication.
It's just not for me. Sure, some of my long term clients have my personal number and can call me any time, but they would never call more than once a month or so if we didn't have upcoming plans that needed a conversation.

i think we are not discussing the big picture..   that traditionally  "civilian" ladies are open to the possibility of no longer giving it away and now requiring a donation.  The stigma of pay for play has certainly greatly reduced in the past say 10 to 15 years.      

thus there are more options to meet upscale ladies that would not have done either full-time or lets call it part-time compensated entertaining in the past.  

Does the economy have some effect on this ? sure, but there have been tough times before where the same ladies would never have considered this activity  

I found a young lady on one of the websites seeking to become a Sugar Baby---recognized her at her work---she was working at Burger King.....I never seriously considered pursuing her as a S B....but she was absolutely amazingly cute and probably could have been maintained inexpensively---she was probably in her early 20's  .....so ....my analysis is that like everything else there is someone who will  get it done for you that comes with every level of financial expectation....!

In my experience finding a escort meets the needs/desires as there is an expectation of mutual pleasure after going out to a restaurant or concert.  Once a month or every three weeks keep the  body/mind in a good place.  

SB based upon your appearance as I prefer women over 40 who have a viewpoint about life. The women I attract want me to pay for school/trips without the benefit side being satisfied.  

Unfortunately in California the middle class left the costal cities and moved to Central Valley or Sacramento taking many fine woman out of the cities.

While I enjoy my regular pro SW immensely,  something less transactional while still NSA appeals to me.

The apps are hit or miss. I’ve only been on seeking recently to be offered endless shopping sprees and the other fun stuff. ❤️❤️❤️

But I like having time to do my own thing. Right person, wrong time.

Freestyling is where it’s at — ESPECIALLY if you have excellent instincts. I wouldn’t take advice from TikTok.