TER General Board
Okay, a thread below about knowing whether a lady has an orgasm or not prompted this post.
Since very few things in science are ever "100%" settled (even the speed of light being a constant has its detractors), I am sure you can find info contrary to what I am going to posit. That is fine. That just means that author hasn't expereinced what I and many others have.
So, unless there is a physical/structural issue, women CAN and DO ejaculate fluid that is not urine. This occurs during orgasm and is an indicator that an orgasm occured. (Refer to the link below for a pic that will give a nice general representation of what I am going to say.)
In the development of the human body, some of our sexual organs stem from common parts between men and women, and then differentiate as growth in the womb occurs. (Simplified)
Women don't have a prostate. Instead, they have what are called para-urethral (Skene's) glands. Just as the prostate surrounds the urethra in a man, so too the Skene's are located adjacent to the woman's urethra. (From what I've read/seen, the glands in women can either empty into the urethra, or, to the outside, on either side of the urethral opening.)
Studies have shown that the fluid which comes from the Skene's glands is similar to that which is produced by the prostate. It is NOT urine. These glands hold varying amounts of fluid, depending on the woman, as well as how long it has been since her last ejaculation (which she may or may not know occured, depending on how in-tune she is as well as how in shape her genital muscles are.)
Men, when you have your finger inside the lady's vagina, and you notice a 'ridge' on the top-side, this is where her Skene's glands are. Does a prostate massage feel good to you? Well, a woman can also enjoy this area being massaged/touched if done properly. Notice too that this area of the vagina is called the G-Spot. Hmmmm, notice a connection? Men can have powerful orgasms from prostate massage. Women can have powerful orgasms from massaging the part of the vagina (G-spot) that touches the Skene's glands. I hope this is 'clicking' for you.
From my own 'research' experience, I can definitley confirm that women ejaculate, and that the ejaculate is different than urine. The consistency is much more slippery. It is different also than the normal vagina lubrication. The taste also differs. It is a sad state of affairs that as we age we lose some of our ability to taste and smell. Thankfully I have not hit that point yet, so I can definitely confirm when a lady reaches the point of orgasm, and produces more fluid, that particular fluid has a distinct (subtle) flavor. I prefer to think of it as the nectar of a beautiful flower.
Some other points
The longer you take to build arousal in a lady, the fuller the Skene's become, and the more fluid that will be released when she orgasms.
Her diet does affect the taste somewhat. One lady I knew literally tasted like honey. If you want to know when a lady ejaculates by the presence of different tasting fluid (just to establish that what I am saying is true), and your tastebuds have moved to middle age or beyond (not being able to detect delicate flavors anymore), you could ask her to eat some pungent foods for a day or two prior to making love. When she does ejaculate, there will be no chance missing the different taste. (Hey, somebody has to do all this research! I won't recommend anything I wouldn't try first.)
If you are digitally pleasuring her while DATY, and you sense she is starting to go 'over the top', switch from the 'come here' finger curling (if you've been doing that to increase her arousal) at the point of her orgasm to more of a finger tap/push (as much pressure as you use to press a keyboard key). This will assist her orgasming muscles, and it will release even more fluid from the Skene's. Women have told me it is like a 'turbo boost' to their orgasm, and it makes them feel even more 'drained' and 'released'.
So, your homework assignment is to focus more on the lady's response next time you are making love and pleasuring her orally/digitally. If she hasn't been aware of any 'squirting' (forget what you see in porn, some women do squirt projectally, but others just 'ooze' their nectar), you can help her release her fluid, and possibly confirm it via taste and a change in slipperiness from pre to post orgasm. Let me just say from personal experience, women do get excited when they realize they have this ability after all. Their smile is priceless!
Stay tuned for next week's lesson on why, although common wisdom gets reported that 'the most sensitive part of a woman's vagina is the first few inches' is only partially correct. We'll delve into the world of the "Epi-Center" or "Deep Spot". (You'll get a clearer understanding of why some women have incredible orgasms while visiting 'Greece' as well.)
Side note - I am still working on getting back VIP since my 'review days' expired. I know I have PM's, I just can't access them yet, for any wondering about responses.
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Of course pussies are different, hence the word typically, and the very carefully tailored statement that someone can't tell if a O has NOT been achieved rather than HAS been achieved.
Carrying the "pussies are different" premise further, not all women will have such strong or different taste as to be easily distinguished or even tasted at all. Again, hence the careful tailoring of the idea that an orgasm cannot be ruled out. BTW, you don't have to have just started eating because residual flavors can be diminished or enhanced through the course of DATY for a number of reasons. Example: if you are kissing her, you probably had a mint or recently brushed your teeth - do you think maybe you will experience a change in taste in your mouth during DATY that won't have anything to do with her cumming? Like maybe the mint taste diminishing?
My premise, expanding on yours, is ultimately, that the whole issue of whether or not she comes is intricately tied into some hobbyists ego and experience in the Hobby, sometimes to their detriment. Some guys are setting themselves up for failure if they are basing their experience on whether or not they can get a woman to O, because a lot of times, it has nothing to do with them.
to your point
"Some guys are setting themselves up for failure if they are basing their experience on whether or not they can get a woman to O, because a lot of times, it has nothing to do with them."
Since 80-90% of sex 'occurs in the brain', someone can 'psyche themselves out' or through time, pre-condition themelves to limits. What ticks me off is seeing bad articles in places like Cosmo that repeat self-defeating ideas to women. "Most women dont have vaginal orgasms during intercourse", etc. Now, if a woman has had some sexual expereince, and has not yet had a vaginal orgasm, she may just think she is part of the 'most', thereby denying herself something that she may actually be able to experience at some point in the future.
I don't think any get-together between a man and woman has to be scripted. (Even to the point where the man always has an ejaculation.) As many of us have shared here, we often like to give more than recieve. As much as I've expereinced, studied, and researched, I think I am still only touching the surface of what is possible. Since it is always better to run more 'experiments' than not to obtain more understanding, my purpose is to just pass along info that some have felt helpful and enlightening, and let those who want to run with it do so. By doing so, I think it is 'seeding' (no pun intended) better conversations down the road here when we get these similar questions popping up.
I never come out of a date thinking I've failed, since my goal is to get to know someone else more intimately. If I can leave her feeling she is better for the meeting, then all the better for me.
