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piecrust 1299 reads
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What is a man to do who has had the worst experience in the hobby with a provider who due to a chronic medical condition should not be working in this industry. It would be a violation of privacy laws to disclose that she has a medical condition in a review. But her condition is the reason for her very poor performance. Just give her very low ratings and be done with it? The ironic thing is that she has fantastic reviews on another site and claims to have a large number of regulars who can't get enough of her. Believe me this is not a case of YMMV she can hardly stay awake or focus on things and appears to be drunk or high but is not. She is truly not able to give consent.

I understand the conflict being because of a medical condition but even so id say post a review. Everyone deserves to know what they are getting themselves into.  Without getting yourself into trouble of exactly saying what the condition is...just be honest about your experience.  Think about it...if you had seen a review with your experience would you have went to see her? You will save alot of guys the time and money.

Medical conditions are no excuse, they are a reason to step away and take time to heal. If there is no hope of overcoming the health problem at some point in the future, then the provider needs to consider another line of employment, or apply for disability benefits and seek a medical provider who specializes in treating patients with her particular needs.

Past reviews should not hold as much water as current reviews, especially if current reviews are lower than past. What is most desirable to see is a provider who slowly improves her scores over time, showing an increase in her ability to provide the services needed in this industry.

Trust me when I say, I have seen other providers who should not be working in this industry, for various reasons, and I do not understand how the men in the hobby continue to protect her because it's her only means of income and they feel sorry for her. That isn't how a provider should live, and is certainly not a sign of anything better to come in the future.

I don't think it's a violation of privacy to write essentially what you have here -- that due to her state at the time, which was related to a medical condition (don't name the condition, of course), you felt her performance was negatively affected. To prevent misreadings/misinterpretations, you should probably leave out any references to an appearance of being drunk or high; I think saying you felt she had difficulty focusing would suffice.

That's really unfortunate, both for you and her. I hope you let her know you were uncomfortable during the appointment.

Try to be respectful about it but reviews.... reviews as long as they are honest and don't go out the way to be disrespectful a review should reflect your experience with a provider good or bad or average. Try to be as detailed as possible.

You don't have to slam her in the review. Give her an honest rating and an honest review write up.

You could state that you felt she should not have scheduled your appointment and that the problem was foreseeable circumstances beyond her control, but keep the medical stuff out of it.

I had a similar situation, but did not know. Caused a bit of an upset, but it happens, and it was honest.

HalfHour159 reads

And which privacy enforcement agency would one run afoul with?

:) just curious

HalfHour

I realize this inquiry might take you by surprise. But let me give the salient facts as you have reported them.

Posted By: piecrust
But her condition is the reason for her very poor performance.
This indicates you had sex with her.
Posted By: piecrust
She is truly not able to give consent.
So you had sex with a woman who you believe is truly not able to give consent.

Given what you have stated, this woman has been the victim of a sexual assault perpetrated by YOU.

And here you are worrying about being respectful of her privacy?

If you are going to make a wild accusation like that, you are calling all of her reviewers and clients rapists.

You take white knighting to an all new level. Have you considered a sex change?

The fact that the woman was, AS THE MAN DESCRIBED, UNABLE to give consent applies ONLY to the time that HE saw her. We have no way of knowing what her condition was like a week, month or year ago. So I ain't sayin' shit about previous reviewers. Dumbass.

Furthermore, I phrased it as a question, because his reference to her extremely poor performance MAY mean there was no sex. But since TER doesn't allow you to write reviews of women you haven't laid, the fact he notes performance *at all* and is inquiring about the content of the review, strongly implies he had sex with her.

You can call me a "white knight" all you want; but having sex with a woman who CANNOT give consent is rape.

You calling me names doesn't say jack about me; but your attitude about this matter says a great deal about YOU.

take everyone's envelopes and have a track record of reviews even though she has an alleged illness. Maybe you should go see her since I have no doubt that you will pay her by the hour to "counsel" her.  

Posted By: Hunter-and-Food-Gatherer
take everyone's envelopes and have a track record of reviews even though she has an alleged illness. Maybe you should go see her since I have no doubt that you will pay her by the hour to "counsel" her.  
First off, I don't run around counseling providers or paying them for the privilege of doing so. Ad hominems of that sort are proof of the shaky ground upon which you stand.

Second, now you're arguing facts not in evidence. We do not even know if the OP's evaluation of her degree of capacity or incapacity is correct, whether she told him the truth about her condition or anything else. Is the OP a doctor?

It is quite clear you have extremely specific knowledge of the woman and her condition. Great -- you have inside info that leads you to believe she is capable of giving consent. That is hopefully correct. From what people have sent me, I would evaluate that as likely.

But neither you nor I were present at the session described.

The OP described a woman incapable of giving consent. Period. Don't give me mierda -- look at what the OP said in black and white. HE was there. You and I weren't.

Your beef is not with ME -- it is with HIM.

If you want to argue with the poster and convince him that she was capable of giving consent, go knock yourself out.

If she was impaired in her judgement to the point she could not give informed consent and the OP had sex with her it is indeed a form of rape. Johngaltnh asked a legitimate question. By the way he did't call him a rapist just asked if he was one as the OP left that up as a possibility.

If piecrust did indeed have sex with her, after his own admission that she was not able to give consent, then in every state in the United States, they call that rape.  There's no two ways around it.

John G. wasnt accusing him of anything, the man full on admitted she wasnt able to give consent.

and I quote; "She is truly not able to give consent."

John's QUESTION is completely valid, and something we all should be cautious about if faced with a similar situation.

John did not accuse the OP of JACK_SCHITT, but only asked the OP (in a shocking fashion) to consider something.

Hunter-and-Food-Gatherer needs to grow some balls and at least post by his (still anonymous) handle if he wants to be that big of a moron.

If so, just post your review, and move on.  If you have seen the lady more than once, or on an ongoing basis, WTF?  How can you make the judgment that it is a medical condition, and not drugs or alcohol, that is hindering her performance unless you have seen her multiple times?   Otherwise, why would you care?

If she is well known anywhere....and there are no indications in any of her reviews that she has a medical condition...there is a reason no one mentioned it. It could be just your luck that she is a huge drama queen who will damn near stalk you to get the review removed. Someone may have tried to submit a review that had that fact included and she may have gone on the defensive.

Just don't see her again.

about concern for her coming after you. I would write a straight up review using very matter of fact verbiage, and leave it at that. All providers can have bad days. Some will cancel their appointments rather than have them suffer for it, others will not.

you write the review but do not mention the medical condition.  Fellow hobbyists need to keep each other informed about the ladies we see.  I would be very disappointed if I saw a lady with outstanding reviews and my experience wasn't even close because of the fact that these reviews were not entirely true.  

You can always use the standard YMMV to account for the low score as compared to other scores she has.

trash needs to taken out as trash! We can't allow these girls to run amok.

sentence in isolation from the rest of the post and assumed its literal truth, when it is far more likely to simply be a bad word choice by the OP.

    And he overlooked the immediately preceeding sentence - "she appears to be drunk or high but is not." Obviously the lady is a provider and was competent enough to get the OP to her room for the usual purpose where she attempted to perform but did so poorly.  Taking it all together, what the OP meant to say is that the medication impacts her ability to perform but not that it renders her incapable of actually giving consent.

Posted By: marikod
sentence in isolation from the rest of the post and assumed its literal truth, when it is far more likely to simply be a bad word choice by the OP.

    And he overlooked the immediately preceeding sentence - "she appears to be drunk or high but is not." Obviously the lady is a provider and was competent enough to get the OP to her room for the usual purpose where she attempted to perform but did so poorly.  Taking it all together, what the OP meant to say is that the medication impacts her ability to perform but not that it renders her incapable of actually giving consent.

I also realize there are cases where a layman would be hard-pressed to distinguish. At what dosage of benzos is a woman incapable of consent? What if she had already decided to have sex with you before taking them? I understand there are places for judgment calls there. A girl might appear drunk or high due to a million causes -- some of which affect judgment, some of which do not. So rather than guessing, I let the OP distinguish -- and I really DO hope it is just a poor choice of words. That's why I phrased it as a question. However, he also modified his statement saying she didn't even belong in the business; which is pretty strong.

In general, I would encourage people to err on the side of caution; and I don't think that is unreasonable.

But now for the smiley face. Sometimes the last phrase in a paragraph is important.

"Standard 2-call system and she greeted me at the door in beautiful lingerie. We kissed passionately until she ripped down my pants and gave me a wonderful bbbj complete to finish. Then I plunged my icepick into the top of her head and stirred."

The last sentence in the description is rather important.

Hate to say it babe, but it may or may not even matter if you write this woman a review. One mans trash is almost always another mans treasure. I can only guess that you were not the first and will not to be the last to be dissatisfied by this provider. The way things have been going lately, guys will see a provider who is legit, but terrible at wht she does over a beautiful young tender....probably stealing pictures anyway, but of course this isnt always the case. For quite a few women here Im sure they enjoy and have made a career from their profession. And then there are the women described in your post. Unfortunately, this is not that womans joy and profession...its her job. This means that she is strictly in this field because she needs the money. And yes this means, even if she is sick, all she has to do is show up and she will still get paid. Just wondering, have you even tried to talk to her about it? And correct me if Im wrong, but dont the clients at least have to phone chat or something before visiting. Are you sure she is not able to consent??????

Have to ask ourselves what's the purpose of the review process?  It not only tells the details that made the experience what it was, but it also is timely.  Knowing that a provider was doing her thing well, or not just the other day is very valuable info.  Getting to the point, were there reviews in the same time frame you saw her?  If they were favorable, then maybe it was a one time thing.  I've read a lot of bad reviews, and you wouldn't be the first to give one.  She sounds like she needs help, but how can that get done by you, or any of us?  I like to know that the girl has her wits about her.  In fact the smarter the girl, the more I like the whole experience.  It does give the creepy feel of rape when reading about her condition, and so forth.  So, in some way that is tactful and respectful, a review would be a good thing. IMHO.

MrSoftie113 reads

I describe the session but leave out the medical condition.

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