With regard to tipping. I am curious as to how other clients handle this. Since any discussion of money is generally avoided, do you include it in the initial donation, or do you offer it at the end of the session?

At the end of the session just like you would anywhere else.
The exception I make is if I've seen her before, know she goes above and beyond for me and/or I just truly enjoy her company.

i've seen on these boards the idea that providers think the best tip is return business.

I feel more compelled to tip and agency girl knowing that the overall fee gets garnished vs an Indy who sets her own price. Plus the handful of indys I see are repeat business, agency girls are once in a while when visiting a new city.

Thanks for everyone's input. It sounds like short of opening the door and yelling after her "you forgot your tip," there's really no wrong way.

Usually tip me at the end I always feel so special, as a tip is reenforcing that they had a great time. Some guys leave it with the donation but to me why would you tip me ahead of time if you don't know how the service is going to go. I'm guilty of it myself I usually tip other providers ahead of time but since then, I learn and I do it towards the end. If the service was mediocre then honestly a tip isn't deserved and I will not condone a poor performance so with me it's both way. Everyone is different the way you tip is up to you. Like I said most of my gents do it towards the end like minutes before they leave.

It's much more beneficial for both sides if the client gives the provider a tip at the end, rather than beginning.  
-Many don't count the donation during the session, so a tip at the end gives us more of a chance to say thank you.  I actually feel kinda guilty if I got a big tip and didn't get the chance to express gratitude.
- For new clients, the tip at the beginning fosters concern as to whether this will be used a leverage for things like BBFS.
-From your vantage point, the provider could under-deliver, leaving you that much more frustrated at the financial loss and positive reinforcement of lackluster performance.

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But my envelope is always correct and I'm not a cheap bastard, I don't negotiate either. It's really quite simple, either I can/want to afford her stated donation, or not.

Going back to an earlier thread about the "envelope" I find myself tipping a lot more often when paying AFTER the session is over than I do if I pay in advance. If I pay in advance, like you I simply pay her the requested donation that both her and I have agreed to and that's usually the end of it

as i said above, i heard once and i agree, the best tip is repeat business.

I never considered that a tip a the beginning might create anxiety about unexpressed expectations.

I'm sure it's not always the interpretation.  But, I've had a couple of clients do the envelop at the beginning and then conspicuously leave additional.  One was just preferring to tip but get all the business stuff out of the way in the beginning. The other was, indeed, setting things up for BBFS gatdanyu.

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They will go in and adjust the donation prior to me taking it or they will hand it to me at the end of our date. Sometimes I get wonderful gifts and those are usually given to me at the beginning of a date.