The subject of discount has come up over and over again lately.  I want to point out a couple of things.

First, I would rather get more time, then a discount.  I think it says a lot to just to go over the time.  It makes me feel better, I feel more like a boyfriend then a client.  I do think you need to set the expectation, because we often don't communicate clearly - then we say we got shown the door.  So if you're going to provide a discount for a regular - I think you should suggest a "bonus 30 minutes".

Second, I recently spent some time in China and I found the GFE there different.  You're probably wondering if I'm talking about DFK or Greek and any such other language issues.  No.  What I found different was - my provider never really took a break.  She immediately got the towels, then gave me a massage and helped speed up my recovery time.  After Pop 2 and clean-up it was a 10 minute massage of each hand (I've never had so much focus to all the bones of my hands) for a total of twenty minutes - all the while, signing a little love song,- then a work-up for Pop 3 and then to the shower - together, with a full body soap down.  Talk about being treated like a king - it was an amazing amount of special treatment.

My point is - for the multi-hour session I was the center of her world - her touch, her pampering. I'm not saying the providers in the U.S. are bad - it's just we work so hard at the give and take - to make the entire evening GREAT for both of us.  In China - it was just different, it was all about me.  I have to tell you, as shallow as it sounds - it was pretty damn nice to quickly understand her enjoyment was simply pampering me for the entire session.

Do you agree, disagree? Comments?

You just haven't met the right lady yet, or haven't communicated your desires to the ladies you have met.  Remember that most ladies are responding to feedback from the gents, who have loudly proclaimed for a long time now that the GFE experience is the ideal... and to many gents that does mean and involve give and take.  I am quite sure that most of us would be more than happy to pamper someone for the entire session (I do it all the time)!

Hugs*
Nicole

A little extra pampering never hurts. I agree the true GFE means both parties enjoying the experience. A no rush session with a few extra minutes added on would certainly be a plus and make the guy feel like he was special. That is what GFE means to me - make me feel special - I know I am just a client, but make me feel like I am a special one you really enjoy being with.

No singing - got it

You're right, it was more like a Spa experience - between pops.  It was nice not having to be the one to jump up for the towel and bottle of water!

I appreciate your response and your wit!

Maybe it's because I was mistress to a Japanese man for many years, but I thrive on pampering and pleasing the man I'm with.  For me, it's about giving him what he wants and needs, and sometimes that is just to be pampered--to be bathed and massaged, as well as to be sexually satisfied.  No pressure to do anything to me.  I am VERY willing and eager to be the recipient of my partner's attentions.  I love a good tongue-lashing (or fingers are good, too!), but I do not enjoy it nearly as much when I sense my partner is doing it because it he feels obligated or that it is just expected.  In fact, I find that uncomfortable.  I would rather he let me know what HE wants.  What turns me on is pleasing my partner.  The rest is icing on the cake.

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OK, I'm going to admit it:  I'm a one pop guy.  Been that way since I was 20.  Once around the track is good for me.

I'm not interested in taking the lady to dinner and spending hours waiting to get to the main event.  I can't get that much time away from my Sig O or job to do that, and I think many married guys can't afford the attention that a long date might bring.

For me, the frequency is important, and ergo, the price.  If I could afford it, I would go every day, even if just for 30 minutes.  Fortunately for me, there is one provider who gives me the attention that I like at a reasonable price.

One the ethnicity issue, I have found in general the Asian and Latin Ladies to be more attentive in terms of wanting to satisfy me.  They understand that I am there for my pleasure.

Quite frankly, I do not pay money to try to physically satisfy a lady who is really only satisfied by my money anyway.  Despite the number of O's I might be able to give her, I doubt she would let me in the door unless I brought enough pictures of Ben Franklin.

Fortunately, there is enough variety in this hobby to accommodate many tastes and styles.

Flame away!!

GG

I enjoy pampering and being pampered by my clients. Communication is really important, both verbal and non-verbal. I am not a clock watcher and I do my best to make sure that my client feels super special.  This is what a true girlfriend experience is to me.

I agree but I feel that I want to play with the lady too.
I want to explore equally as well.
It takes 2 to make it right.
I will check it out sometime.

"I like to get up and get it and warm it first."

You know, you are gonna make me reconsider this "dinner date with dessert" thing after all, aren't you?

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You simply stated your reasons for having this "hobby".  Consider yourself fortunate that at the very least you understand your own needs and have the ability and wherewithal to satisfy them.

I am somewhat similar to you, in that, I am also not a multi pop person either. I have always enjoyed the journey far more than anything else. I find, that after a long trip it makes arriving at my destination that much nicer. I have always needed quite a bit of rest between destinations.

Similar to you as well, my time is limited. Although I can  consider only two people that I know to be true friends(three counting my sig o),we all however, communicate and converse quite regularly. In fact, my sig o and I can still talk for hours over dinner(even after 30 years). So I really have no need or want of further intellectual stimulation. I prefer to spend my time and energy in finding out how creative and technically proficient my temporary partner is. It is my personal belief that oral sex allows one to be the most expressive in this area, so much of my bed activity is geared towards that direction. When my sig o and I want to feel truly intimate we have intercourse.

Unfortunately, of all the paid ladies that I have been with, I have found less than a handful(three to be exact)that I considered capable of giving truly quality head. I don't think ethnicity played a role, although they were all asian, as this type of sex play is far too subjective. I believe to find someone who can give truly exquisite head is quite rare. It also may be a matter of luck in connecting with the right person at the right time. Frequently some lady(asian, white, whatever) will be reviewed as being among the best, but all too often I personally have found it to be a disappointing expeience. This is certainly an area where I have found the cliche, "different strokes for different folks" to be more than appropriate.

Also similar to you, I have mixed feelings about trying to physically satisfy an hourly lady. I eat enough pussy at home that I don't have this absolute urgent/desperate need to just do it with any lady. When I feel like it, I do it more for reciprocal purposes than anything else. If my tongue makes the lady feel as well as she claims, then why is that not enough for renumeration? As you stated so well, the only reason this person is in bed with me is because of the franklins tagging along. According to the reviews, when all these ladies orgasm nearly everytime with almost every guy(let me not get into if they are real or not), I'm quite surprised they are not screaming the name Ben.

Anyways, there is no need to think you will be flamed gg. In this particular case there are others(at least me)that think quite similarly to you.

You really do play dirty Nicole!

Why not just get a blow job in an alley? Probably be cheaper and let you get home quicker.

Re:No singing - got it

I consider myself a total GFE and I am always the one to do the jumping, massaging, etc.  I think the services I provide should always be more geared towards YOUR pleasure and comfort.  I love pampering men to the point that they do not feel like it was a paid service.  Also, I always stay longer than the scheduled time, I hate rushing!  

Just my opinions,  Ashley

Laurel, you are awesome!  (eom)