1 hour BCD
run out for some beignets and coffee
Back for another hour of BCD
Then dinner?

Fun - energy boost - fun - dinner and then smack your ass as you get in the cab?

Call it a NOLA doppio dinner date

Seriously, if it's a first date, I prefer to eat then play-- seems to follow a more natural progression.  If we are friends, then it's usually play-eat-play, but it's also usually a 5-6 hour date.  I can easily spend 4 hours at dinner with someone I click with, so unless it's an overnight the best arrangement I've found is a flat fee for the evening.  It makes the whole evening unrushed, relaxed and as close to a real date as you'll find in this little world.

what do you guys expect on a dinner date? By that I mean if you pay for say 3 or 4 hours of time, how much bcd time do you expect to get before you feel as though you have been ripped off? I know many women who use the dinner dates to kill time for 3 hours, and then the guy is barely left with an hour of actual sex. For this reason, my rates are clearly broken down on my website as "4 Hour Dinner date (2 hours of private time, and 2 hours at dinner afterwards)," but I wonder how that works the other way around when dinner is first?

I don't do dinner before playtime because I don't want to be worrying about bodily functions when a guy has paid for my time. I always make sure he has the FULL time of play, and then we can eat and let loose afterwards. This also allows us both to actually EAT without worrying about what the result will be during alone time.

So, let us just say a woman offers a 4 hour dinner for 1000, and 2.5 are actually ate up at dinner including the drive time back. In my case, I would still want to take a quick shower again, because I like being fresh (5 to 10 min. fresh lol) before I do anything. This takes up even more time IMO, and yet another reason why I like playtime right after I get ready. So we are down to about 90 min. of playtime and you just spent a grand on the fee, and whatever at dinner...do you feel ripped off, or is this simply how it's done?

Guys? Girls?



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on what I am paying. If I am paying the provider's full rate for four hours, then I expect four hours of playtime, and I expect to be the one to decide what to do, when.

If the rate is being discounted, then I expect us to agree beforehand what the split will be. I also want to eat afterwards, I hate playing on a full stomach, and any girl who is fucking me is bound to throw up just a little bit in the back of her mouth...

I expect the playtime hours to be fairly strict, clockwise. I am always respectful of a girl's time; however, I expect the dinner hours to be very flexible, as there are always unforseens that eat up time, and I expect the girl to both attempt to enjoy herself and be very good at pretending she is enjoying herself, and therefore no need to rush off like cinderella when the clock strikes.

London,

I normally do not pay for a 4 hour tryst for the reason that I would have a hard time justifying the cost plus dinner on top of that.

I am not saying that you or any other provider who does this should NOT do it, but since you asked if us hobbyists feel that we are not getting the value of whatever rate we paid for that time period.

I would suggest to the provider... ok... I'll pay your normal 2 hour rate, i.e., $600. After the tryst is over, then I would ask the provider if she is hungry for a dinner. If so, we can go somewhere and have dinner (I pay) and I bring her back. No strings attached, but I will go home that evening knowing that I had a great 2 hours plus a nice dinner to boot.

The provider gets to sleep knowing that you have made someone happy without having the gulity feeling of "ripping" the guy off and plus you got a nice free meal on top of it.

You wanted what was best for your client. Isn't that what you want to accomplish?

Do you think if it worked out the way I suggested, that you have accomplished that goal?

Serpius

I don't particularly find the value in paying the girl just to watch her eat cuz being the awesome asian stud that I am, ladies wanna have dinner with ME off the clock   However, I do understand that ladies have a business to run too and that there are plenty of demand for that paid-date market.  If she's hot enough and she doesn't know me, sometimes that's the only way to 'go out' without the drama involved in officially asking her out on a real date. ( Prolly cheaper too in the long run.

The very few times I did dinner dates, I expected about 2~3 hours play time and 1~2 hr dinner.  2 and 2 works too but the dinner part of the rate shouldn't equate to the play time rate, imo.

If it gets close to 3 hrs, well I'm probably never going to do the dinner thing with her again. lol

Take a peek and see what is is now lol. I can tell you I basically only charge for fkin, and a tiny amount for dinner afterwards. I am with you...you want 4 hours of play, it's 400 an hour for every hour. You want 2 hours of play then dinner? You pay very little above the play rate.

I do charge 100 extra if the guy wants to stay in, because not only do I have to buy the food to cook the meal, but I literally don't get a break. After playtime, I am rushing to try and look decent again for him over dinner, then I am slaving over a hot stove to prepare the meal, set the table, etc. Still, he would have spent that 100 or more on a dinner out, and we would not have the luxury of being alone whilst eating.

depends completely on the guy..some guys prefer dinner before playtime in order to 'feel comfortable'..a few drinks..a nice dinner..the anticipation builds..then a good fuck..some prefer LR's way..have a good hot session ..then unwind with dinner and drinks..the physical factor always cums into play,,having sex after a nice dinner might lead to bodily functions taking over a session..anal would be ruled out..regurgitation is always possible..a four hour date can have many variations..you have to choose he one you BOTH feel comfortable with..

I prefer dinner dates where the amount of time in each category is roughly agreed upon, but circumstances will always require some reasonable judgement and accomodation.  Whether it's before or after private time, neither of us can predict the wait at the restaurant.

I have done 4 hour dates that lasted 3.5, but more have gone 5.  I've been at some where dinner was expected to be 2 hrs and it went well over--sometimes because the food was slow arriving, but often because we were enjoying ourselves at the restaurant.  I have found that if a lady enjoys being treated nicely, it is rarely a bad investment of my time.  She somehow always seems to do right by me.  Part of it I suspect is my attitude and preferences:  I measure a good date by the quality and overall experience, not so much by the clock or a checklist.  And I tend to see a few ladies more often, and if they "get the long end of the deal" one time, it often is reversed at a later time.

Worrying excessively about the clock just detracts from enjoying the lovely lady I am with.

Hi London,

That factors out to be $250 an hour! Add a half hour , per your post & that is 375 for 90 minutes BCD! Now If that is a flat rate it's more economical to just go with the two hour rate & eschew the dinner!! If a woman charges $600 for two hours & a $1000, four hour dinner date, I'm still going for the two hour rate!

I saw a woman who charged $375 for two hours! I brought Subway sandwiches to the incall we ate, chatted & she showed me her internship video, then for a  hour & twenty minutes she rocked my world!! I know that's on the other end of a "dinner date" spectrum, but  i didn't feel rushed & It works for me!! Afterwards I didn't have buyers remorse because it was an economical purchase!!  Just my...;o)

not always a given. I just used that as an example, of what I used to charge and how it worked out. I now figure if a guy gives me my two hour rate, I am not going to worry about bleeding him for 2 hours of dinner afterwards. Subway? Really? That's funny shit dude. If I am having dinner off the clock, I expect it to be a nice dinner, not a damn sandwich I can pick up myself and eat alone.



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was for the guys that do. I wanted to know what they expected as far as playtime if they DID pay for a dinner date. Not being willing to engage in dinner dates at all, is not the topic, though I appreciate your response and understand much of what you are suggesting. Often times when I tour, I will do dinner OTC or buy the guy dinner if he pays my dinner rate. I don't want to eat alone, and hell...it's a free meal that I would have had to buy either way.

Ideally, one hour of play, 2 hours for dinner including transport time, and a one hour dessert back in the room.

That said, it's not unusual for these kinds of dates to run a bit long, especially if there is a lot of loss time getting to the restaurant and sometimes, even with reservations, you can wait up to 30 minutes on a Saturday night at a good spot.  In just about every case I can never recall, the provider never made an issue about an extra 1/2 hour or even an hour, since this is normally her last session of the day anyways.

I like to choose a spot that is close to the hotel that the provider will be staying to minimize those situations.  If their service is efficient, there should be no problems.

The reason I do playtime before dinner is to ensure the guy is taken care of, and I don't have to eat like a damn bird or worry about drinking too much at dinner. There is no going back to the room after, which is why I set my packages the way I do. I mean think about it...2 hours for me to get ready for you to begin with, playtime where I get all messed up, another half hour to get ready for dinner, eat dinner, and then back again for more sex? Nope..not gonna happen lol. Once I eat, I am done.

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Hi,

...  in your example post!! One of these days I hope to treat her to a nice dinner!! She was fine w/ the sandwich!! BTW, the fine dinner will be "off the clock!" Those are the best dinners!!

I don't feel sexy after I eat. The dinner/drinks after is always a nice relaxing time with the lady.

when we screen and answer questions to potential clients we always say compensation is for TIME.
Breaking the hourly rate down is dividing time fos charges for having sex no? LOL!

I have off the clock rates for dinner or anything over 4 hrs and have had alot of fun with these
accomodations .  Eating light and being aware of what we eat prevents those bodily functions  
from paying a visit.

If I were staying in, I would order something catered sometimes prepare a nice dessert
but time is time and breaking it all down to someone who is strict about dinner date rates
in my opinion is putting it out there that discounted rates apply when not having sex but
when having sex the rate is higher which to me, is not anything I would want to discuss for obvious reasons and especially on a public forum.

If someone wants to divide the rate and bitch about it he's cheap .  I like my off the clock
rates it prevents a difficult topic from being open to an embarassing situation which I would
rather not discuss . Can you see yourself standing there telling someone - Well I will charge you
1000 dollars 200 per hr that we are dining for 2 hrs and the balance is for the time we spend in
the room having sex??? LMAO!

I have never had issues with LE from my website wording, and I also don't have that stupid disclaimer on it either lol. I want guys to KNOW what they are getting, and if they expect 4 solid hours of sex, it's a premium rate. Actually, it's no rate because I would probably just decline that offer lol.

It's simple...play, eat, see ya.  I would do what you and Fisher suggested on a clock free or overnight, but not in 3 or 4 hours. It's simply not enough time for all that running around, and believe me...I have tried it all before deciding to do things the way I do now.

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With a Fav lady...   really blurring the line between friendship & provider...   when I can get a day free...  I stop at a market just off the highway.  I buy everything needed for a nice meal.  Upon arrival at her home (like I said, we have blurred the lines)...  We catch up on each others lives while she prepares the food, tucks it into the fridge.   We have play time...   she brings out the meal.   So YES, it seems we play first...   reluctantly we get fully dressed & I depart.   She is generous with her time.  

I leave everything we don't consume...  I AM trying to completely cover the costs...  though she has fed me on occasion.   Because of the travel time, I would be hard pressed to not eat over the time interval and highway food doesn't agree with me.

I want sex...followed by a nice dinner...Harry Caray's...drinks and some food.

Oh...did that and then some  

On to the next one I'm afraid  LOL

dinner dates, but if you are hungry afterwards, i'd be more than glad to buy you dinner. ( otc )
I actually like getting room-service when i do over-nites.....to damn lazy to get dressed for dinner after she just wore me out!!....lol.
I'm looking for GFE n bed, not the dinner table....lol.

I don't pay for dinner dates either!

LTR with a an x hooker, u bet ya.........then she can cook ME dinner, something i rarely get....lol.
Of course is she were mine, u bet ya, i'd wine and dine her as often as i could.
Off subject, but, more people would stay married if he, treated her like a queen and she treated him like a king.....it's not difficult. ( it's called love )

London,

Well, if I had to do a 4 hour tryst, then... I would suggest to the provider... let's have fun for 3 hours... then dinner at the last hour. No way will I try to have sex AFTER dinner. I am usually too full and I can't concentrate very well if I am too full.

I am certain we would try to come up with different ways to have fun in the first 3 hours.

If that happened that way, then I can justify the cost without the feeling of being "ripped off".

That's just me.

Serpius

I have it clearly on my site that I will join clients for a meal, or drinks for any date 2 hours or more. I look at it this way. I would probably stop for food on my way home, and I would rather have someone dine with me then having to eat fast food, or dine alone. Plus, I'm naturally on the thinner side, and everyone is always trying to feed me, hahahahaha!

Honestly, 3 hours is plenty of time for play before, a meal, and play after if you do it midweek.

if the rate was discounted lol. On a 4 hour date, playing for 3 hours leaves no time for dinner after. You have to include getting ready again after sex, driving there, gettting waited on, eating, and driving back. I have trouble doing 2 hours of playtime and still trying to have dinner on the latter end, and I don't care about the clock or if it goes over. Just saying, in my experience it would go over if you played for 3 hours. I have always done half and half, and had great success, but I don't hike the rate up to some outlandish rate either.



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all I did were extended engagements. And the men who typically patronized me were men for whom the cost of a dinner date was pocket change. It was a different demographic, and certainly a different world. My typical dinner date was 4-5 hours, and thoughts of time for BCD vs. public time never, ever were an issue. It just never came up! The evenings progressed very naturally, and almost all of my friends (albeit a smaller circle) were regular visitors. (Dinner dates were actually pretty seldom booked- they were mostly overnights, unless one of my gents was only in town a short time.) For these gents, time together was about a heck of a lot more than a checklist of a bunch of acronyms and a desperate desire to "get their money's worth". Not that there is anything at all wrong with that- it is just that for these men, companionship was the priority, and the BCD was a natural progression of that. They really were like mini-relationships with lovers. The thought of our activities being online is so... distasteful? coarse?... to them that I have not succeeded in getting any of them to review me here, even though occasionally one still finds his way to my current town and spends time with me.

A typical evening with a certain friend I used to see would start with him picking me up at the airport in his city, and we'd head back to his place so I could store my bags. I would already be dressed for dinner, and just need to quickly freshen up (the flight to his city was about 45 minutes). We'd then leave for dinner, which would usually be at a 5-star restaurant (this particular friend loved fine wines and exotic cheeses, so a certain restaurant figured prominently in our engagements because they were known for their cheese cart and extensive wine menu). Dinner would be full of flirtatious innuendo along with great conversation- we had so much in common, including certain countries we'd been to and an alma mater. By the time we returned to his place, neither of us could keep our hands off each other. The body always remembers a good time, and will always react accordingly. A few times, upon arriving at his place from the airport, we'd be kissing to get reacquainted, and things would progress naturally to the point that things happened before dinner, and so dinner would be after. But always, always, there was playtime after dinner. (That's just how I roll...lol! I need my dessert.) This gent always had me stay at least one night, and once a year took me to Vegas for a 3-day weekend. Private time was just a natural, and regular, occurrence during these dates, which, as I said, were like meetings with lovers.

This sort of engagement was pretty representative of my dates.

So this statement:

my big mouth is always the death of me lol. More often than not, guys like to overstay their welcome with dinner dates, hence another reason I make sure they know after dinner, it's DONE!

bored with men after a while... so that makes perfect sense!! Quite a few of my friends feel the same way- they certainly are not that interested in conversation. The way I worked couldn't be more dreadful to think about for them! Torture, they'd say.

Fuck that noise. I ain't payin' no bitch fo' 2 hours to eat on my time on top of her rate.

Dinner is at LEAST 2 hours in reality.

You want dinner on me? Let's fuck for 3-4 hours. Then I may spring because I enjoy company. Then, ya know what? Let's fuck for 4 more hours...

Oh yeah, that's an overnight ...

Some kong for hours and hours in bed to get their money’s worth and other mix it up good food, wine, conversation and desert. Mostly depends on how much the two have in common to talk about.

If one supports Obama and the other Mitt, don’t think that conversation is going to last long.  

I have found pid dinner dates are big waste of time.

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But I have done it the other way, as well.  

Really, it's more a question of time at dinner vs. time in bed.  And I don't put rules on it, but dinner generally takes between two and three hours, but I think it is unfair to pay the regular "in bed" rate for that time.  A dinner fee should be negotiated upfront, and then the regular hourly/multi-hour rates should apply after that.

... to my first response.

A 2 hour tryst, then dinner is optional. I know a number of guys cannot justify paying "sex" rate for dinner time, which as you have stated would be around 2 hours.

For example, $600 for 2 hours sex, then another $600 for 2 hours of dinner? That's hard to justify that in my mind. Some providers do do that and that's their choice and if the guy is agreeable to that rate... then go for it. Neither party should feel awkward about the rates... at that point, it's the service that will count and the reviews (if given) will reflect that.

If the guy feels that the service is subpar, then he can reflect that in his reviews, but never should he complain about the rates because he already agreed to the rates in the first place.

As for the provider thinking that she "ripped off" the guy because of her rates should not feel that way because the rates were agreed on prior to the tryst. If the guy can't agree to it... there are plenty of other fish in the sea.

Serpius

we pay for your time so if I like to spend the whole time at dinner is my prerogative. Get the feel for what the guy you are with wants, do not just set a time for eating and a time for private activities..let the gentleman decide, we all enjoy different things

Say the girl's 2 hour rate is 600, what would a 3 or 4 hour dinner be priced at to keep most guys happy and be willing to pay for it? What if her rate is 800 for 2 hours as well? I am just wondering if maybe I am being a bit too cheap lol.

in some kind of limit, or both parties have the potential of being taking advantage of. I know many ladies who spend 3 hours at dinner first only leaving an hour to play, and I also know guys who do the reverse spending 3 hours in the room and then expect to take another 3 at dinner when they only paid for 4 hours.

Of course, these things would be discussed in advance to reach and agreement, or the date would simply not happen. I am not one to say I will do one thing and then do another, so no confusion there. If a guy expects to eat dinner first, I will refer him to someone else, because that's not my thing. If he wants more than half of that time bcd when the rate is already discounted, he will pay the rate for just sex, which is MORE than a dinner date rate. If all he wants is to eat dinner and not have sex (LMAO), I will charge him a third of the rate.

for 2 hours on the West Coast, is the 3 or 4 hour dinner rate for girls in the south lol.

I bring dinner over (Sushi is a good choice.), or we can order room service and add the cost of it to her donation.

No getting dressed up and going out into the cold, or losing time in a cab, etc.

See, guys like you would not take advantage of that situation but many do, which is why providers want to go OUT for dinner. Most guys think staying in for that 2 hours of eating time, entitles them to more sex...it does not unless agreed upon before the arrangement. This is why I have always broken my dates up...and I hate sushi btw.

I don't know the restaurants in New Orleans, but let's just use dollar-figures to illustrate.

For two hours and me paying for the meal, which includes appetizers, entrees, dessert, and alcohol, let's say the bill is $100/head.  If that's the case, I think a fair amount for dinner is $100 for the time and me taking care of the bill.  That's $300 I could have spent elsewhere, and I think that's reasonable.

if the lady thinks that dinner and another $100 isn't worth it, that's fine.  She can pay for her own dinner or do another session.

No harm, no foul.

So, I only charge 100 more from the two hour rate, and it's a casual dining place. Don't do entrees or dessert, just apps and alcohol lol.

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