In tne beginning, GFE referred to the "girlfriend experience", in the sense that the provider pretended like she actually gave a shit about you. She treated you like someone she wanted to spend time with, instead of like the next person waiting on line at the DMV. There was cuddling, kissing, and bbj was available, but you always knew the hat was going on for the main event. Now, I find that sometimes, GFE is synonymous with BFS, which is a completely different (and risky) option.
Mongers: When you see a provider advertise as "non-GFE", do you presume that she's going to have the condom in her hand the second you lay the donation down, and then try and get you off as fast as possible? Or do you think she is just playing it safe, and she will be somewhat affectionate?
Personally, I think it would be less confusing to say "gfe, but no bfs." Then, you really would know what you're getting when a provider described hersef as non-GFE. Just stay home. LOL!!!
When researching a provider, I always go w/ the reviews to get general idea, and then backchannel with some folks.
I always have condoms on me. While some women might be open to BBFS, no one has ever rejected me because I wanted to use condoms for intercourse. As far as fellatio, I will have that without protection.
When meeting with someone always assume they are having BBFS somewhere with someone - either in the hobby or their personal lives. It's always a safe assumption.
On the West Coast, GFE means DFK and BBBJ is included in the service, but not BBFS. The girls that offer BBFS put either PSE or BBFS in their ad, so there is no confusion. Non-GFE usually means CBJ, no DATY and no DFK. In other words, no exchange of body fluids whatsoever. Basically, it's "streetwalker sex."
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Gfe never meant bbfs, but does include bbbj.
I have never ever seen, nor heard, that GFE meant BBFS and I have been doing this a long time. That said, there are times when someone advertises as "Ultra" GFE and that can mean BBFS to some, but not to all as some girls get in this world and use adjectives they may not know have a double meaning.
Btw, I don't ever go by what the women advertises herself as because that means nothing me. I go by her profile, reviews and bc communication to find out if we are a good match sexuality and personality wise.
All of that makes much more sense. The use of PSE and BBFS in the ad is much less confusing than saying "Full GFE" or "Very GFE" (yes, I've seen that).
And thanks for the link to the discussion months ago. It seems I was trying to re-invent the wheel. My bad!!
I always keep things strikely business & I try to provide both lube & Condoms.
Unless it's with me right? *Wink Wink*
Maybe they're more low range escorts as opposed to midrange or upscale? I can't imagine someone advertising that!!
I promote myself as GFE which to me means:
♡ French kissing
♡ BBBJ with eye contact
♡ DATO
♡ DATY
♡ Light dirty talk
♡ Unlimited pops
♡ Sweet/bubbly personality
♡ Cuddling
♡ Conversation
♡ Body rub
♡ Not watching the clock
Basically I see it as like having a sweet and naughty girlfriend for a short time who you have chemistry with in bed and out of bed.
Feel you pretty much hit what most people would agree on or expect. The only exception may be giving DATO but some other things in a session make up for that. All that I repeat with have the above but can not hold up my end on the second pop.
There are some that use the term loosely as a separation from massage gals to FS
Also believe that most claiming it means BBFS are guys pushing the limits.
This is exactly what I look for in a provider which unfortunately is sometimes harder to find than one would think it would be. Sensual DFK is key for me.
While CIM is a bonus, it's not necessary. And the "not watching the clock" isn't necessary since I don't like to overstay my allocated time.
I'm a big fan of CIM. I love seeing how a gentleman's eyes light up when I tell him I'll swallow it all 
And yeah DFK is the best! I know what you mean about clock watching.
I've had to back off of any description of "intense GFE" etc, because that is what is circulating, from the last couple years. GFE++ and the like, all an assumption by boundary pushers that it will be BBFS. And if you live in a hotzone where that is already prevalent, some real confusion can occur.
Non GFE, typically is all covered services, and no kissing, maybe no DATY. I don't think it's as bad as street walker stuff, but definitely not looking for a connection or sloppy wet interactions. Some guys are perfectly fine with that, and not seeking intimacy or swapping much bodily fluids, etc. To each their own.
