You realize I am never wrong about TER rules, right? This was an intentional mistake to see if you would catch it. Congratulations! You passed the test!
Yes you are correct. Lopaw (or other female hobbyist) can simply put "don't know" in the sex category if they are a provider's first reviewer, and therefore setting the profile. However I still wonder how TER would react if a female hobbyist fills in "yes" and no intercourse took place. Hmmmmm. May never know the answer.
It's not like there's a Resurant Menu. What defines "sex"? Is it only I/C? Can there be a "I forgot it was a service" if that doesn't take place? Can a BBBJ or Happy Ending or Russian or Stripper Slide or ??? (to completion) replace it? There can be cases where a lot of fun was had but which defies the conventional definations. Will TER be open minded about letting a reviewer who tries to write an accurate review?
Gentlemen & Ladies of TER... How have you handled this?
I don't believe, as some reviewers do, that someone who doesn't provide FS can't get higher than a 7, or if no Greek then she can't score higher than a 9.
This is The Erotic Review... not The FS Review. I've had intensely erotic experiences with providers who don't offer FS. But they offer everything else, and with aplomb. The best kisser I know is an FBSM provider. Perhaps the most erotic experience I've had with a provider didn't include FS, but blew my mind (and other body parts).
And yes, I've found that if you follow TER's rules for reviews you can give as high as a 10 to a provider who doesn't offer FS... although I realize 10s will be relatively rare if no FS is offered, just because so few of the extra-point activities are possible.
...and personally I define "sex" as the transfer of bodily fluids until orgasm, with no I/C involved. It is sex as I define it. I think everyone defines it differently for their own experiences. I have never had an issue with submitting reviews and I just use the check boxes that apply to my sessions.
Since you see reviewed ladies whose profiles are already set. Now if someday you decide to TOFTT and write a lady's first review then you see the profile and the checked boxes come into play. In your case, if you check sex=yes, TER may actually have an issue with that unless some strap on play was included or something, because TER does define sex as intercourse. Then again they may end the rule for you but we won't know unless and until you are a provider's first reviewer.
Since you see reviewed ladies whose profiles are already set. Now if someday you decide to TOFTT and write a lady's first review then you see the profile and the checked boxes come into play.
perfectstorm this is not the first time you have chosen to unnecessarily make this personal. Please tell me how you know that I have not TOFTT, because I have. You, of all people, should know that alias reviews do not show on one's post count. And some of my sessions were before other reviews had been submitted... in these cases my reviews display as her second or third.
This is not the first time you forgot how to follow a thread. Get out of flat mode! My post was to Lopaw. I was telling her that even though her definition of sex works for her, it probably would not work for TER. But that only matters if she TOFTT. This is the second time in a week you responded to a post of mine that was addressed to someone else, thinking I was talking to you! Looks like you are the ones taking things personal!
I did reply to your OP lower in the thread. Respond to that if you want.
This is not the first time you forgot how to follow a thread. Get out of flat mode! My post was to Lopaw. I was telling her that even though her definition of sex works for her, it probably would not work for TER. But that only matters if she TOFTT. This is the second time in a week you responded to a post of mine that was addressed to someone else, thinking I was talking to you! Looks like you are the ones taking things personal!
I did reply to your OP lower in the thread. Respond to that if you want.
Who appointed you board police?
Are you seriously suggesting that I MUST leave my computer in tree mode & open each post one by one? Rediculous. If TER didn't want us to use it, they wouldn't have put the buitton there. YOU think your way is the only way. What an attitude.
How come everybody else could rationally discuss this topic except YOU?
Wow 😳 You get lost on a thread, and jump on me, accusing me of taking things personal with you, for a post that was not at all about you, or directed to you, and now you accuse me of being board police. SMH.
If I were a provider's first customer I would have the option of either addressing the services I didn't partake in as a "don't know" and have her update it, or if she were willing I would offer her a Q&A after our session to fill in the profile as she prefers.
The "sex" box is a "yes" or "no" only answer. Anyway, like I said we will not know how TER reacts to your answer to that box unless you (or another female hobbyist) actually do become a lady's first reviewer. So, it's really a moot point anyway, until it happens. Carry on! 😁
You realize I am never wrong about TER rules, right? This was an intentional mistake to see if you would catch it. Congratulations! You passed the test!
Yes you are correct. Lopaw (or other female hobbyist) can simply put "don't know" in the sex category if they are a provider's first reviewer, and therefore setting the profile. However I still wonder how TER would react if a female hobbyist fills in "yes" and no intercourse took place. Hmmmmm. May never know the answer.
I could also see the don't know response come up if a guy really loves bbbj (or just convinced himself it's not "cheating") and never asks for I/C. Seems like a majority of FBSM profiles say don't know for sex.
As to whether TER would allow a female hobbyist to answer the "sex" question, in my experience they're fairly inconsistent about rules interpretation so anybody's guess. On the one hand, who are they to say oral or scissors or whatever else two people might do ISN'T sex? OTOH, that sex-Ed class was pretty specific. I dunno. Hypothetically, if the women aren't allowed to answer that question, then they should be given carte blanche on PR's regarding the really bi conundrum.
Lol Ironically there was a former stripper turned escort who approached me recently about being her first appointment, but apparently she was working with a very impatient booker who set up an appt for her with someone else so it didn't happen. Oh well.
But no worries......i know LOTS of strippers and the odds of any one of them "turning" is high, and I'll be right there to help guide her way to the dark side!
As for the gal with the eager beaver booker, too bad you missed on being first in line. 😕 But even if you'd been second or third, might you still have been first to the review writing duties? Or no?
First, he mentions it's an outcall to his hotel room, then he states he had such a good time he hated to leave. Second, he says she mentioned her friend Rebecca Pink and he suggests that he would like to see them together, but doesn't mention that he's already seen Rebecca and has written a review.
it doesn't necessarily mean you had it. You have to look at the totality of the review, the other check boxes, and the narrative to get the big picture. TER guidelines for reviews merely emphasize what is on the menu, not what you did. If sex was on the menu, but you never got past the BBBJ before you blew your wad, sex was STILL on the menu. If its not on the menu, then its a "no" to sex. These distinctions are why FBSM with a happy ending usually tops out at a score of 7, because sex is NOT offered on the menu.
"These distinctions are why FBSM with a happy ending usually tops out at a score of 7, because sex is NOT offered on the menu."
Even if sex (and I'm assuming intercourse is what you meant by "sex" since you differentiated BBBJ and sex) isn't on the menu, a provider can qualify for as high as a 10, to wit:
Kissing with tongue: +1 BBBJ: +1 Really Bi: +1 Moe than one guy: +1
Admittedly the third one and especially the fourth one are fairly rare with FBSM providers, but I know a few FBSM providers who offer all 4 services.
I see this misconception all the time about non-FS sessions topping out at a 7. If reviewers would take time to read and comprehend the review guidelines, maybe we could put that fallacy to rest.
Posted By: coeur-de-lion
it doesn't necessarily mean you had it. You have to look at the totality of the review, the other check boxes, and the narrative to get the big picture. TER guidelines for reviews merely emphasize what is on the menu, not what you did. If sex was on the menu, but you never got past the BBBJ before you blew your wad, sex was STILL on the menu. If its not on the menu, then its a "no" to sex. These distinctions are why FBSM with a happy ending usually tops out at a score of 7, because sex is NOT offered on the menu.
What makes TER a great resource, and different from every other review board, is that the reviews mean something.
No, TER reviews aren't perfect and two people making a connection is about as subjective as you can get. But end of the day a lady who has a handful of reviews on TER that come to say 9.5 is consistently going to be very different from a lady with say an 8.5. That's a big deal. But it's not true on most of the other sites where reviews are either just random or inflated so much that for purposes other than avoiding ROB and trap situations, they are nearly useless.
Almost all sex is good sex, and a gentlemen who has just made love with a lady is usually going to want to do her a solid, and that means the best review possible. The TER rules, but forcing discipline on the review writing process, make it far easier to be at least a little more objective. That's a great thing.
So... for the sake of the community (and the ladies who go far above and beyond to please us), avoid the temptation to be a little creative, to try and find equivalent worths in services and follow the rule. That is:
TER Review Policy> An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum
fill out the form portion as completely and accurately as possible. Follow the scoring rules.
What defines "sex"? I believe TER's intent is vaginal or anal intercourse. Can there be a "I forgot it was a service" if that doesn't take place? If you mean a score of 9, then it must include kissing, BBBJ, really bi, or greek. SHE WILL LIVE IF YOU ONLY GIVE HER AN 8. Can a BBBJ or Happy Ending or Russian or Stripper Slide or ??? (to completion) replace it? NO. Call it what it is. The "menu" allows for these. Russian and/or stripper slide would be body-to-body or private to private massage, depending on the "intensity." Sex or not, the maximum score is still 7 without the add-ons. There can be cases where a lot of fun was had but which defies the conventional definations. Will TER be open minded about letting a reviewer who tries to write an accurate review? I repeat: SHE WILL LIVE IF YOU ONLY GIVE HER AN 8.
Sex = intercourse. Admin has actually spoken on this and defined it in previous Board post. I will try to find it later but I have to remember what board. (I think it was S&P) BBBJ etc, does not qualify as "sex. There are other places in the profile where that info goes. If no intercourse is on her menu then you check the box "no." However, unless you are her first reviewer or are trying to change her profile with a problem report, then truthfully it doesn't matter what you check in the box anyway.
The sex yes or no part of the profile has nothing to do with her maximum score. The belief that an fbsm provider can only get a maximum of 7 in performance is false. The "extras" that allow a score higher than a 7 have nothing to do with whether "sex" is part of the service or not. I think NoYellowEnvelope already covered this so I won't repeat it, but I can give a specific example.
There was a popular fbsm gal in San Diego a few years ago who was among the highest ranked providers in San Diego (and even in the nation) Her average score was 9/9, with a bunch of 10/9s in her profile. I don't think she had any 10s for performance but she actually qualified for 10s. Yet full service was not part of her menu. Her profile said sex=no. However other profile items were: Kiss: yes with tongue Blow job: yes without condom two girl action: yes really bi All her reviews raved on her DFK and bbbj skills (along with awesome massages). Some of them were 4 hand massages with double bbbjs and 2 girl action. So yes with those 3 "extras" but no "sex" she qualified for 10s. She also allowed daty, fiv, cim, and other things but those don't have bearing on scores.
So yes , Harbor View you can have an "I forgot it was a service" experience with a fbsm girl with no sex.
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