I just got an e-mail from someone wondering if I got the personal phone number for a girl I recently reviewed from an agency(which has a good reputation by the way). I can imagine this sort of thing is not popular, to say the least, with agency management and wonder if it happens much. The thought has crossed my mind but thought it was unethical. I wouldnt appreciate it if I was on the other end and wonder if its' commonly done.
What bothered me much more was the e-mail. Was this the agency trying to be cute? I gave no hint or comment in my reveiw that this topic came up during my meeting, which it didnt but the question was troubling. I had no idea who was e-mailing me. Why me? Does this guy, if that is who it is, e-mail all the reviews of girls from agencies, or just those he likes. Any one have experience or thoughts on this, I'd like to hear them. Thanks

Before the days of the internet (yes, I've been around that long) independents were hard to find where I lived.  So if I wanted to see a girl I would call an agency and they would send someone over.  Most of the time the girl who showed up would freely give me her "private" number to contact her in the future to "eliminate the middle man."  Of course she would ask me not to tell the agency.  I took some of them up on their offer, including a couple of girls that I saw regularly.  

Now with the internet it is quite easy for an independent to market herself, so it's been a long time since I called an agency.  

My suggestion to you is that you ignore the e-mail.  It could very well be someone from the agency checking up on her.

I know an independent who worked for an agency for a few months. She says perhaps 25% of the guys asked her for her personal number or email so they could see her "on the side" (without the agency fee, but paying her higher than her net agency $$).

It was very tempting, but she knew she could get fired if she accepted (a violation of the agency contract).

However, when she decided she was going independent anyway, she started accepting the "on the side" appointments. She was caught, and got fired, but she didn't care because she was going to quit anyway.

The agency spread it around that she had acted unethically. She worried it might hurt her business, but guys really didn't seem to care, and she has done well.

That's rich- Agencies pissed about unethical behaviour!

There are three ladies I see regularly (work for an agency) who voluntarily gave me their number.  In fact, they asked me if I would like it.  I did not solicit it.

I was happy to except their number and call them directly.  I did not let the agency know that I am doing so, nor that the ladies gave me their number.

Sully, I do understand your point.  Ive heard a number of horror stories from both clients and providers who were treated unfairly by some agencies. I can understand why providers and clients exchange numbers when certain agencies are usually rip offs and they treat their girls badly. However,  there are some good agencies out there that do care about their employee's and keeping  their clients happy.  When you are trying to maintain a regular clientele and keep a staff of top quality providers, it can be quite frustrating when you are constantly losing because of this problem.  If the client thinks so little of the agency he continues to use,  then he can gamble with different agencies and hope he gets someone nice.  Chances are he's going to use the agency he is sure will provide him with a first rate provider time and time again.  
When a girl gives their number out while working with a fair agency who puts their saftey then they should either go indy or try another agency that should be ripped off.
I just posted something about this on the NY board a few weeks back.  It was a huge problem and I had to let some people go.
Now,  we are understaffed and I am turning our regular clients away because there is little choice and limited availability.  Is this really fair to do to an agency who is good to you?  If you were in business and your employees were giving their numbers out to take business from you,  would you keep those employees?  
Please understand why this is a problem.  The agency did email the client,  they did not call him at home.    
BTW,  Im glad to say we will once again be fully staffed by next week.  It is not easy finding good help on LI.

                      Sincerely,  Alyssa Young
                             





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Have you wondered that the girl might not want to give her number out? What if this guy is some stalker or ex-bayfriend or any trouble like that?

If he wants her number, he must get it from her.

As mentioned by others I have not gone thru an agency in several years because of the internet. But back when I did most girls would give me their private number and ask me to call direct.  A couple that I really liked I took up on the offer.  What we worked out was the same fee but a longer time together.  I felt that was fair and I wasn't taking advantage of the girl.  As for the agency, all of the girls felt they were getting ripped off so I really didn't think much about it.  Back then I had never been with an independent so had no idea what the agency was getting.  Now that I know I just can't see going through an agency.

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Like others, I haven't used an agency in years.  My response to Alyssa Young, is I wish I could find an agency that stood behind its product.  Back when I used agencies, sooner of later I was burned by a girl from every agency I ever tired, and the agency never did anything to correct the problem.  I'll agree the clinet is ripping you off if--and only if--you can honestly tell me that you'll refund the money of a client that was ripped off by a "dance and dash" girl.  If you don't refund a client's moeny when your girl rips off a clinet then don't expect clients to show a loyalty to your business that you are unwilling to give to your customers.