I have had this happen a few times as of late and not really sure how to handle it or what to say. The gentlemen in question have been morbidly obese and I know they have taken a shower but I am pretty certain that they cannot reach everything in question to be very clean. They are very nice but the smell is just beyond bad. And because of their out of wack digestive system they usually have very bad breath on top of it, so no kissing. And some are so large that all that is visible is the tip of the head, the rest is buried in (unclean) fat.  I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but not sure how to handle these situations. Any (not mean!) advise is appreciated.

Since this is bothering you so much, as it would any person, I would address it before meeting up. Ask for a physical description of the gent, with height and weight, as you would rather know before the meet up if he is not compatible with you rather then you finding out when its too late.
I know there is an issue of discrimination that you are concerned about as you are a caring person, but to me, this is different. Hygiene comes in three different categories with the ladies I see; 1) impeccable 2) good enough and 3) poor. Now 80-90% of the time, the lady falls into category 1, and maybe approx 10% in category 2 which leaves a very small chance, in my experiences, that the provider would be in that last, most troubling category.
So the only way I can really think this would work for you is to screen for it by his physical description and/or ask his references so you don't see category 3 type gents. I don't think anyone should be forced to see anyone who is incapable of being immaculately clean, or at least reasonably washed, for the date.  
The downside of not doing the above is what you have already experienced i.e. hurting his feelings. I think the gents in question would rather deal with the disappointment of you rejecting them on comparability by email rather than you not giving then the service you are known for and what is expecting.
Tough one though and good luck!

You can refuse service by stating on your website if your obese person lease don’t book me.

That’s a tricky one. I’m overweight but I’m at LEAST a hundred pounds away from having any part of me I can’t reach with a washcloth. Except for the very center of my back and I don’t have any boobs back there so I think it’s okay.  

I totally get it, and yet I feel bad for the client too. But being honest, if I were a provider I don't think I could be the type that would be okay with any woman no matter how she looks. I'm not saying she needs to be a knockout, but I am saying I would have my limits. I have had providers ask for a picture of me before booking. This is probably what I would do if I were in your shoes.

that Kgirls use because they NEVER reject someone on the basis of weight or hygiene, and here's why . . . .

I am a big guy (not, can't reach everything big, but big).  I have been asked for a head to toe selfie.  Fortunately for me, so far, all of the ladies have been kind and have accepted my requests.

picture, how does that address the OP's problem with hygiene and smells?

their pic is PS'd?

I suspect it is a very safe bet to say these guys are not in denial about their physical state. So one option is just to indicate on your web site you do not cater to anyone over X pounds or with a waist of X inches or more. These are in fact relevant aspects for providing the type of service you offer so it's not actually discrimation like it would be if you said they cannot buy food at your grocery store.

And just how many posts have been made here by clients about abusive and intrusive screening when a selfie is required?  LOL.

It doesn't address the smell directly at all. That's fairly obvious. But thanks for asking the wrong question. The picture is 100% about looks. If the concern is correlated to the weight, a provider can choose to not see men of a certain weight. Will this cover every possible oder issue? No. You could be fit and stink. But her description wasn't about a stud who didn't show up clean. It was about an overweight man who she felt wasn't able to clean himself suffiecently. So, I offerred up one possible way to address this concern.

Yes, and some providers still require it. A client doesn't have to see a provider if they do not like their requirements. And, a provider doesn't have to change their requirements to please every client. Both have the right to their opinions and their choices.

What's PS'd?

"What's past is prologue." - Shakespeare
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This topic has come up many times over the years so there are a few aspects to look at.
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First, search "obese" on General and any local board you like. Years ago, scoed (Salt Lake) posted about losing weight (425 down to 200?) and jelloman (NY; 600+ down to 200ish?) also successfully dealt with his weight problem and they also described some of their experiences seeing Providers before slimming down. And many others.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/re-congratulations-981326
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Second, some Providers more generally say in their ads (or during appointment arrangement) to please let them know of ANY special arrangements they might need to make. For example, if your peg leg has termites, she will want to have bug spray on hand. Oozing lesions? "Please schedule after they are healed." Seriously, I seem to recall a post about an obese client so she knew to put her mattress on the floor ahead of time and not to destroy her regular (not hospital grade) bed frame. Some Providers are very accommodating of any ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) condition: wheelchairs, prosthetics, etc.. But PLEASE let her know ahead of time!!!
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Third, etc.. MANY "regular" ads and websites emphasize that oral hygiene and body hygiene are very important and taken seriously. There is no additional info because it seems so obvious. However, although the hostess can ASK ahead of time, _decent_ clients with a non-standard issue will definitely let her know ahead of time and to discuss mutually acceptable ways to deal with the issues. Some people discuss the use of injections for ED on "60 and Over." Many Providers are fine with that and helping with the massage; some people, not just Provider-people, are squeamish around needles; they might ask a client to take care of that before arrival BUT THEY HAVE TO BE TOLD AHEAD OF TIME so they can discuss their discomfort around needles / injections.
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Before I forget ... some obese people (and non-obese people) have odors that are not always due to hygiene but due to hormone and other issues. They might take a shower with scented soap and start exuding odors from their sweat glands while still toweling off! Once again, something to discuss once the weight issue has been raised. "... I see, ... 600 lbs ... Are you able to use a regular stall shower or would you be more comfortable sitting in a bathtub? Do you require a shower seat of some sort? [I don't have one, but I can order one from Amazon, if you pay. Pick one out for me.] Do you have any related glandular issues I should know about [sniff, sniff]? Any allergies? ..." And so on.  
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I think that including "I am very accommodating but please let me know of any special circumstances when requesting an appointment." in your ad is reasonable. Or, being absolutely certain to ask after the first contact and during scheduling, "Is there ANY special condition or circumstance I should know about ahead of time?"
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Having stuck to generalities, there were some other more specific suggestions about dealing with the nitty gritty of helping an obese client to get thoroughly clean to your satisfaction.

a provider has ever gotten from me was my Drivers License with EVERYTHING REDACTED except my photo and the city where I live, and that was in Las Vegas setting up a provider to make an outcall to my hotel.  She was completely satisfied because my California DL means I'm NOT local LE, and that is their main concern.  

A plumber wouldn't have patience for someone with an untenably dirty house, they'd show up, say "I can't service you", and then leave. Why should you be any different?

This isn't McDonald's trying to sell happy meals. I understand the model your kgirls like is high volume. And, that's fine for them, and no issue with those who go see them. But if a provider wants low volume and is meeting their needs, no reason to change to an alternative. They are happy with their volume and doing it in a way that makes them comfortable. And, you have every right to take your business elsewhere.

low volume like to add upscale customers when they can.  If it means they have a few unreliable customers in their stable, this is their opportunity to replace them with someone better.   It's a business, not a social club.  

You have a LOT to work on before you can even start to think of yourself as an "upscale and better" client. It is a business and I am very thankful I have many reliable, polite, rule and boundary following, considerate, respectful and kind gentlemen that I can spend my time with. When I cut a client for whatever reason there are 5 waiting to replace him. No reputable provider is scrambling for your business. Sorry not sorry.

This should work both ways. People should be realistic about there weight. I mean REALLY if you cant see it you sure cant maintain it ! For my own well being I have kept my weigh the same for many years. I also have had great times with curvy providers.  

Them about it. Also these bastard are lazy and have a glut for junk food, and should be  staying  away from fast food joints ,instead  get their fat ass on a diet and on a tread mill. Lazy ,nasty bastards who think money trumps everything.  

and NEVER had one that did not ask me to come back and see her again.  I do repeat at least once about 80% of the time.   You don't know what you are talking about.  MANY providers that I have seen scramble for my business, but none of them know me as CDL.  To them, I'm just an, educated, successful and respectful older gentleman with a big personality who has deep pockets and is generous to a fault.  If you knew me like this, and NOT as CDL, you would be scrambling for my business, too.  

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unstops shit from a toilet would complain about a dirty house, also at their prices?
That's got to be a dirty house!

I come here to laugh at the most nonsensical shit that you try to make up to make you feel better about yourself. The fact that a human like you actually exists that I find so entertaining that I never have to meet in real life is icing on the cake. Thanks for the never ending stories and laughs, buddy!!!

every time I'm right about you, you deflect and never give a substantive response.  This continuing game you play is not doing you any favors.  I guess this means you CAN'T explain your statement that you have guys waiting in line to see you, but yet you come here every day hoping to get customers.  Got hypocrisy?  Or are you just a habitual liar?  

I've got a buddy who owns a plumbing company, guy lays alot of pipe, and he's had his guys called out to hoarder houses before, and refused service because of the conditions.

Sure, any provider is likely interested in adding new clients, especially good ones. But they don't necessarily have to change their practices to draw these type of clients. Your way is not the only way. It's one way. But there are other ways. Like I said, it's their right to continue this practice and if it works, and you wouldn't know if it is or isn't, then there is no reason for them to change.

You are generally strong medicine and I've been guilty of that, too. But your last post was just mean and nasty. It's not a good look for you. Shame on you.
In fact, while tastes can differ, I think she's fairly cute.

Every post she directs at me is also mean and nasty.  You have been here long enough to know that people get what they sow with me.  She wants to be mean to me, so I will be mean to her.   I have often said I treat everyone here the same, monger and provider alike.  I think it's insulting to treat someone differently due to gender, race, religion or anything else.  
 Treating women less than equal to the men here is not my style no matter what the issue is.  If a provider wants to bash me, she can expect me to respond in kind.  Even after this post, she is back for more on another thread.  

that last post is an aberration.

I considered myself a fat tub of shit. I was just over 300 lbs. I’ve always been flexible, so hygiene wasn’t a problem. Being 6’ and having played sports and lifted weights for long stints throughout my life, I was overweight but would say only morbidly in the medical sense or technically, but there was a fairly muscular dude trapped under the flab.

Oh man, years of body shame, that’s relatable. I’ve been similar all my life. When I tell people what I weigh they don’t believe it, and other people who weigh what I do look very different than I. Because there’s some solid underneath here. Well, that plus the rocks in my head. Still no denying I’m overweight and need to be healthier. I lost quite a bit of weight myself over the last 8 months or so but I’ve plateaued. Your post is motivating. Thanks for sharing.

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...by posting on here rather than PM'ing some of the familiar gals that roam the hallways.  Good chance some of your big boys actually read what you wrote!  I can't think that's gonna help their self esteem issues, lol!  

I guess fat shaming is part of the new cancel culture.

You as well as everyone who posted here knows that I was not fat shaming. I was asking a delicate question on how to handle the situation. I do have several clients that I see that are obese but are also very clean and I very much enjoy spending time with them, so no, it is not about the fat, it is about the cleanliness of the person in question. Yes, larger gentlemen seem to have more of an issue in the hygiene department than individuals that are smaller. Men that are not circumcised also need to take extra time to make sure they are hygienic before a visit. When I was drinking I know that I was not always providing the best service to clients and I did have a client tell me this. I was pretty hurt, but it also was the kick in the pants that I needed to get sober so I can be a better provider for my clients. No one wants to deal with a sloppy drunk, just like no one wants to be in a very intimate encounter with someone who does not smell very fresh.  But having a great time with a provider is a two way street. If you were disappointed with a session but all of the reviews and everything you saw about the provider seemed to show a difference experience maybe it is time to reflect on what you could have done to make the experience a better one.

I was not referring to you.  

Not fat shaming ,just the reality.They stink, and need to do something  about it.

CDL don’t you see the irony in judging this Scarlet while you have never missed an opportunity to let everyone know what a stud you are that all you 1000’s of kgirls don’t give a shit about anything but your $$$
Not to mention all your OTC girl’s clamoring to give it away for free which can neither be verified or  believed.  
In closing anyone that brags about his manhood anonymously is most likely full of shit. And you for sure fit the bill.  
By the way you almost always use the word “irony” incorrectly.  
There is nothing ironic about saying she’s busy and advertising here. I believe it makes perfect sense that since advertising  so much is probably why she is so busy.  

is what is resulting in her getting less than one review a month, then she should move to a bigger city.  I don't know of any providers with a modest rate structure who can support themselves on ten sessions a month without a side job, like QB has, especially when her rate is $250.00/hr for all the bad service you could ever want.  Lol

My big guys have always been the sweetest smelling!   However, I have always kept that antibacterial pre-surgery soap in my shower & you can use it with a hot towel beforehand if you still want to see them.  Or anytime you encounter odor.  Odor is caused by bacteria so it’s an effective solution.  

Ryan Conner, the aging porn star, has 11 reviews for December, 2023.   According to your multiplier, she saw 110 guys in December.  That has to be a world record.  How about providers that have a dry spell of TER reviews.  What value do you use?

and as I said, over the years, when we asked providers here how many of their customers write reviews, the standard answer was "about 10%."  I think it's higher than that, too, but in this case, I'm just the messenger for what providers have said.  However, Porn Stars get a much higher percentage of reviews than run of the mill providers because EVERYONE wants to write a review telling how they fucked a porn star, so with all due respect, it's a false analogy.  Porn Stars I have seen say that about half of their customers write reviews.  

your statement that you only read posts directed at you. My post was a reply to, and directed at, Nicky. If you thought otherwise… well, it IS always about you, isn’t it.

yet to get a divorce?   It's one thing to be a simp to the providers you are fucking, but it's worse being a simp to a woman you don't even want to have sex with.  

regurgitating the same lies over and over, and also denying your own posts? Apparently not.

posting that you haven't had sex with your wife in many years?  I don't remember if you said 5 or 15 without looking it up, but either way, it's not a lie.  

You “forgot” what you posted above, two days ago. And you forgot our discussion about “cheating” from not long ago. And you lied, again, about your only quoting what I’ve posted here.

Problem is obesity in many cases is like stupidity or being unattractive  
The person in question doesn’t know, or if so won’t admit that they are obese/stupid/unattractive  

my posts.  Now it seems you are talking about other kinds of posts.  You say you have links, but then you don't have links to support your claims about what I said.  You seem very confused.  

Y'all  are a piece of work..........You run y'all damn mouth and can't say anything nice about the person. Instead you bad mouth the people. If I had a problem about a person then I would say it to them.