TER General Board

Should we have a Client Bill of Rights standard
KnightDriver 3 Reviews 2997 reads
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We know that men are constantly told what they should and must do etc etc.

So it got me thinking like any other product and services, there are Consumers Bill of Rights

Would clients/men/hobbyists or whatever we call ourselves these days,  sit down and write a CLIENTs BILL OF RIGHTS that escort must follow and adhere to ?

Who want to help setup a client bill of rights together and make it available and publicly seen as possible  

If interested lets chat and lets put up a standard for everyone to follow

We can be the founding fathers of the Client's Constitution ... LOL  

and leave a real mark in the sex world

You certainly could write one but most people won't read it and NONE of the girls will adopt it. Hell, I've been with mongers throughout the US and Central America and most of them have never even heard of TER.
But best of luck and have lots of fun.
I'm trying to imagine showing up at her door with said "Bill of Rights" and waving it in her face if she violates it. I can hear her laughing now.

That's right up there with forcing religious people to bake gay wedding cakes, or forcing female estheticians to wax tranny balls.

in the interest of giving the benefit of the doubt one can only hope that was an attempt at humor.

Like I demand the right to eat pussy kind of stuff?  Why?  I doubt that your suggestion rises to the level of rape, but regardless how would anything like that be enforced?

I suppose it could be an advertising ploy by the provider.  “I abide by and and strictly adhere to the monger’s bill of rights.”

GaG can write it since he’s the level headed genius around here.  He can start a new BBB - Better Blowjob Bureau.

All I did was inquire shouldn't as consumers we have rules that should be expected,  I mean all these girls get to tell you what you should and shouldn't do, but don't you have any expectations from her

why do so many of you guys come across as pushovers and letting girls push you around,  are you that  insecure that you don't want to lose the only source of love you ever going to experience, ( the paid fake kind ) ?

I guess most have low expectations since they have no expectations of themselves,  

Unlike you I have high expectation for my money, money that I work very hard for and deserve the best if I was going to spend it

So knock yourself out and protect your hard-earned money as best you can. But it's buyer beware and the only thing you "deserve" is what you can negotiate and carve out for yourself. And, if you do a good job, feel free to pat yourself on the back but nobody else cares.

The provider is held accountable by the review that's written about the encounter. I have never had a provider not provide a service I wanted that was listed on her profile. If what I wanted wasn't on her profile I didn't book her.  

This isn't rocket surgery!

Or it would be if the OP actually had a brain. What a mental fucking midget.

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If we think that some (or any) of the decrim laws might someday pass, we may well see something like this in the form of regulatory controls.  For example, clients may get the "right" to always wear a condom for ALL acts, even those without penetration. Or clients may get the "right" to issue a Federal 1099 tax form to each independent contractor they hire (or with AB5 in California you will have the "right" to hire your escort as an employee, issue a W-2. pay payroll taxes, SS taxes, state disability taxes, and health care fees).  Or a client may have the "right" to be required to pay electronically (no cash) to ensure Law Enforcement can trace all payments made in their mandate to protect all citizens participating.  
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Just imagine how awesome it will be when the State defines your Client Bill of Rights for you in the name of public health and the opportunity for mutually consenting adults to do whatever they want together disappears. Cool idea, right?  
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My above sarcasm aside, I am fully in favor of decrimination. But beware that the risk is to invite over regulation by government officials made with the same lack of understanding of sex work and the same false sense of religious fervor to want to regulate around decrimn laws like we have seen them take to recriminalize abortion.  
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The Cat

sure looks like a lot of self loathing and self hating men here,  I guess when one have low and no expectation of oneself they have no notion of being disappointed

Why the self hate,  have life left you so de-masculined , or is self neutering a thing now in the era of metoo  

Obvious you can't ask for rights when you don't even respect yourself to expect rights  

sad seeing escorts because you live in a loveless relationship only to be paying for a YMMV experience from someone who equally don't respect you  

I don't expect people with no self worth or self esteem to demand a better life,  but at least people who have respect for themselves demand and want better in return  

only people with respect for themselves can ever demand respect from others

Whereas the antithesis of self-loathing is self-reliance. I don't need to whine about what a raw deal clients are (supposedly) getting because I put in the homework to help tilt the odds in my favor and thereby make my own luck. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, and sometimes it's a push. But, unlike some, I revel in the free marketplace, make my own Bill of Rights each and every day, and don't need nobody to give me nuthin'. And what a bitch-ass loser pathetic comment it is to point the finger at others for seeing escorts when you're the one crying for others to make it easier for you. Wow . . . this just gets stupider and stupider. You probably should quit while you're ahead but I'm guessing it's already too late.

We ALL already have a kind of “clients bill of rights.”

I like to see it as more of a figurative “board of directors,” populated MAINLY by a gentleman most of us know as “Benny Franklin.”  😉

See, whenever a “pro” performs in an UNSATISFACTORY way, the “board” tends to WITHDRAW, many times NEVER to return to conduct “business” with that particular “pro.”

Eventually, the aforementioned “pro,” upon seeing the absence of “Benny Franklin’s” in her life, acts accordingly, and amends her “ways.”  🙂

Otherwise, they face an EARLY retirement.  🙁

Now, this mechanism doesn’t work with “one and done” providers, but neither would your “bill of rights,” with those types.  

WICardinalfan58 reads

Now that TER is back let the free market forces determine the product and if it is good, or not.  In this case the product is......well we all know what it is, a service.  

In any service industry word gets around  if any service provider is great,good,bad, etc.  Hotels, restaurants, airlines are all ranked.  

TER is a place where word Gets out and rankings are made.  

I hate regulation and big government.  We sure don’t need to have a Client Bill Of Rights in the hobby.    

IMHO

P4P is still illegal I’m most jurisdictions. Would you file a lawsuit?  One of the few things I learned in business law is that you can’t sue for breach of contract for an illegal act.

Could both be right and both be wrong at the same time.  I agree with those that say the OP is a whiney dissatisfied customer, but I can't get to the same conclusion that Lexi does that he advocated rape and "making providers go things they don't want to do."  It seem to me that everyone is jumping to a lot of conclusions here without enough information in the OP to know what he's talking about.

 
If his grievance is with a provider not arriving on time, or upselling once he gets there, of rushes him out before the time is up, I think even Lexi would agree that those things could probably be in "Monger Bill of Rights".  OTOH, if he does, as Lexi seems to think, believe that he should be entitled to everything he wants, regardless of whether its on a girl's menu or not, then he is way out of line and Lexi is right to be outraged.  The OP's lack of details make in impossible to decide which side to come down on with this one for me.   Absent more details, neutrality is the best course of action.

Black-Panther86 reads

CDL, thanks and appreciate the insight and interpretation. As I was once again trying to figure where the fuck Lexi was coming from, again.

Basically, if I read you right, if there is a clause in the Customer Bill of Rights a "customer gets Greek service" and a provider doesn't want to provide it but a customer forces it on her, then that could be construed as rape. She doesn't want to do it, customer forces it on a girl because its expected, then rape.

That being said, that is always considered an extra. I guess the contentious issue would be BBBJ, for example. Some would say that should be expected, and a provider would say that is optional. A client should expect CBJ, and BBBJ would be an extra.

is that the Monger Bill of Rights should have more to do with expected courtesies (on time, clean incall, good hygiene, etc.), rather than specific services.  I have never argued with a provider about what she offers.  If there was a miscommunication about what I should expect, and she tells me she doesn't do a particular act, I just smile and say, "Hey, its your body, your rules."  I think mongers have to respect whatever the menu is.  IMO, particular services could not ever become a "right" of a customer.  

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