Just curious  

through out history and across the world, large numbers of people have been forced into jobs that  they don't want to do.
 
That said, what does it mean?

I am in no position to judge just like I can't really judge say prison conditions in Louisiana. I actually and by accident got myself elected to a local political position a few decades ago and, while I served my term, got to know the local police. I could have, at that time absolutely said our local police were fair, reasonable, honest etc, but if you asked me then (or now) about the Chicago police, I would have no idea.  
It is the same with this question.  I have had providers as patients (also decades ago) who were absolutely in the business because they wanted to be. The providers I have met more recently (except for one) seem happier with their careers so far than most of the younger lawyers or older physicians I know, but I have no idea what goes on in other places in businesses I would never know about.  
At the least, those of us who hobby should be sure we never participate in any act that involves lack of consent on he  part of any of the people we see. (The one lady i saw who was unhappy, was independent and not forced, but unhappy because her career was not doing well and she was not making the money she used to.)

I wouldn't knowingly frequent trafficked providers.  But sex itself isn't evil.  To me it is a mix of indentured servant and out and out slavery.  From something like a contract for service to physical threats and punishment.  So a continuum from okay to evil.    

I don't have a clue about what is going on throughout the country but I am certain none of the providers I have and am seeing  or have are have seen are not forced. Why do know this?  To start with, I don't see any providers under the age of 28. They are independent and have no pimp.I have come to know them very well, where they live, their real names, their families and they know that about me. I am a widower, retired, I live alone and my family members who matter to me know what I am doing.  I do know one provider who is trying to get out of this profession and is getting qualifications so that she can. I help her as much as I can. There is only one provider I have seen only once and I don't know much about her and she knows less about me. What I do know, she claims to be 40 (really looks 50) and has been that for 4 years. I doubt she is being forced but I don't know for sure.

The Asian ones I know that worked through some local agencies were most likely here without a choice.

I've always assumed -- and we all know what "assume" means -- that the younger the girl/woman the more likely that she's giving her money to a pimp.  Of course I can't know for sure just my assumption, so I avoid the young ones.

I have seen and still see girls from agencys  
And most maybe all seem very happy  
Some of them are students that just try to make  
A quick buck , some married on " vacation "
But the few I spoke about this subject that worked for  
Agency were also doing this out of choice

Would be worth knowing the source/documentary you're referencing.

1). Do these women have personal freedom for an alternative employment? (can they find a Walmart type of jobs?)
2). Are these women capable of securing a marriage in marriage market? (are they attractive enough to find a marriage partner?)
3). Do these women independently own all resources to be in the business? (do they need a someone else to be in the business?)
4). Are these women better paid in the business comparing to other alternatives? ($$$ is also relevant for testing)  

So far I feel safe that the escorts I was with were doing so out of their own free will. One no longer is working in the hobby, and has moved on. Besides the over inflated pricing, one reason I will never go to a legal brothel again is those are more than likely places where sex trafficking does take place. If you do not have enough women for customers, you have to find them somehow. I am just guessing most women working as independent escorts are doing so of their own free will. After all, where can you find a job that pays $250-$1000 per hour? Even if you got four clients a week who hired you for two hours, the money adds up quickly.

If someone works a job, they are selling themselves in a different way.  Does that make them a victim?

I am not sure what is your definition of "against their will".  I do believe that majority of providers doing this is for the money rather than for the pleasure.  They always say and make you feel that they are happy, god knows if they are telling the truth or not, because they need to behave that they are happy for the returning clients, for the good money.  I am sure there are providers who are truly happy for doing this job, and there might be some providers who are not very happy doing this except for the money.  I believe that most of them doing this with their own choice, that meaning nobody forced them to do so.  However, if they have other choices that can also make decent money, even less than what they are making as a provider, they might just left this field.   This might explain, or partially explain why most of the providers only provides in a few years and leave or retire.    I just don't know how many, or what percentage are truly enjoy what they are doing.

Yeah, but how many of us are happy to drag our asses out of bed in the morning and head off to work.  I can think of a million other things I would rather enjoy doing.

On what circles you roam. I've read about this with woman from other countries in the US, but I doubt you're going to find those on TER. Unfortunately, LE lumps all P4P together. They don't care. It's illegal to them all the same. Younger providers have learned to say, "trafficked" to avoid getting busted, but that only works one time. The unfortunate "john's" are really screwed tho.  


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99+% confident.  Then again, I know this is not true with everyone, especially at the lower end of the spectrum.   The best thing you can do as a hobbyist is to avoid situations that don't feel right to you.  

And I am highly suspect of the ones that lump all sex workers into the "exploited" category.  Does it happen in the U.S.?  Certainly, but usually with illegal immigrant women or women who grew up in the ghetto.  A college educated escort on a well-respected review site is very unlikely to be trafficked.  So, we can be smarter than the media and smarter than the clueless "johns" who don't think about what they're doing.