Lately my ATF and I have been fighting and bickering.  Not usually in person but over texts and emails.  Then when we see each other, she acts like nothing has happened. Im getting tired of being blowed off and not in a good way.  

Should I dump her ass and find somebody new? Or try to work things out?  We are great friends but everything seems to be going in the wrong direction.

The only thing that scares me about finding a new ATF is that it really isn't all that easy.

of good lays out their!

If she acts like nothing happened in appointments you're a cash machine and that's about it.

Usually when a client is fighting with a provider in texts and emails he is a needy drama llama - point blank.

There is no reason a paying client should tolerate fights so I'm inclined to believe you're either instigating them or allowing it because you'll interact with her any way that you can have it, at any cost.

Leave her alone. You're making her more jaded by the minute and you're obviously upsetting yourself if you're agonizing about it so much that you had to post a thread about it.

No, it really isn't that hard to find a new ATF.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of girls begging to be pleasing who will not fight with you in communication.

Get over it and move on.

Im gonna pull my head out of my ass and start looking for a new ATF.  Im just gonna start ignoring her and hopefully she will get the point.

I believe I can do better.

The last time I had make up sex it took me an hour to get all the damn lipstick and rouge off my cock.

Maybe a warm load of bread would work better.

Remember, it's a business!  You're paying her for sex.. not for her to be your friend.

and be grateful that doing so won't cost you half of your financial net worth LOL.

There is a crude line, that goes something like "you don't pay for the poke, you pay her to leave after the poke".  Ladies, I really apologize for dragging that one in here.  Time with y'all is so much more than a poke--but then the contracted time is up, we thank each other for a wonderful time, and when the door closes and the lady and the gent are on other sides of the door, there is no more obligation.  He needn't ever contact her again, and she is not obligated to accept any invitations from him to schedule another appointment.  If you are bickering, then it is done, stick a fork in it, move on.  ATF's can retire and leave the biz at will, you know, so treat this as if that is what happened and find a new ATF.  TER provides the info and resources to make that search efficient and pleasurable.

Hit the road, Jack. Tell her you don't think it's going to work anymore, it's your fault, blah, blah, blah. You're going to miss her and can you still be friends. Just be adult about it and she'll appreciate you being honest.

As far as finding another ATF, haven't you looked around here lately?

Doesn't ATF signify someone that you'd want to be around?  When that goes away she's just some ex bed mate.  I'm still friends with a couple people that I used to fuck.  Be her friend and fuck someone else.  If that doesn't work, just fuck someone else.

Business 101.  You have business associates and you have friends. These two groups of people should NEVER blur into one. I don't care what area of life we are talking about. Having a freindship with someone you do business with is asking for trouble. Nothing good ever comes of it. I have many dear friends. I would never jeopardize those friendships by having any type of business arrangement with them. Something goes wrong and goodbye friend. It happens way too often. Conversely, I would never consider socializing with someone I do business with. Something goes wrong and goodbye business. This is common sense.  

Lets take our little world. A provider is a BUSINESS associate. You are paying her for her time. How could you possibly be great friends with her? Now should you be FRIENDLY to her during your paid session, absolutely. But friends??? Unless Hardy has a totally different definition of a friend than everyone else, I fail to see how a hobbyist can be a friend with a provider when he is paying her for her time. I surely have never PAID a friend to spend time with me. Friends DON"T CHARGE each other, ever. My lawyer charges me to spend time with him. He is not my friend. I pay my barber to cut my hair and my accountant to handle my taxes. Guess, what? They are not my friends. While I don't ever wish them ill will; I really don't care about their everyday problems. I don't ask, they don't divulge. I care only what effects my business bottom line.  
 
You need to get a grip on reality. You are upset because you and your ATF are fighting? What the hell are you and she possibly fighting about? Seeing a provider should be nothing more than living out YOUR fantasy. IT SHOULD BE CARE AND STRESS FREE. ALWAYS. In 10 plus years of hobbying, Hardy HAS never had an issue with any provider outside of the paremeters of a session. I'm not paying her to discuss her problems nor to discuss mine. Your only issue with a provider EVER should be during your paid time with her and it should be related somehow to your session.

Why are you E-mailing her and texting her? You should contact a provider ONLY if you want to set up a session or if you are thanking her for the just completed session. Period. Moreover, you are tired of being blown off by her? Ah, too bad. You sound like a junior high school student in his first relationship.    

You are asking if you should dump her or try to work things out????  My lord, have I joined the E-Harmony web site? You are asking us if you should dump a provider? Are you frickin kidding me?? You really need our permission and blessing to stop seeing her? You know how to dump a provider? Bingo, don't call her (boy, Hardy makes it so simple) And really, you are "scared" to dump her because finding another ATF isn't easy. Are you kidding me??? You are scared to dump a provider??? Get a hold of yourself and fast. You are becoming emotionally unglued.

You know what, if you want to date this woman, then ask her out and NEVER again pay her a penny for her time. But as long as you have a PAID hobbyist/provider relationship, you should NEVER get involved in her problems, her life, her reality. She should NOT be your friend. And if you want her as a friend, then guess what?... Do not ever pay her again.  Guess what, I can gurantee that when the cash stops coming her way; you will see how quickly your supposed "great friendship" disappears to absolutely nothing. Your friends as long as she gets paid. Boy, sign me up for a friendship like that!  









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I can tell you personally that although the sex may be good, the emotional part is not. Am I correct? Mostly all providers are like that, they pretend nothing has happened when you see them because they do not want to confront the problem b/c they do not want to lose you as a client. Remember, its a business, and you have to accept it as a business. Do not get attached with the e-mails and text message.

It can be emotionally exhausting, if there is an issue with e-mails, texts, or being blown off, then just use her for sex, and nothing more. Do not inform her about anything personal in your life, and if the sex declines, then move on. Hey, remember, its her fault, not yours. If she is blowing you off, and you are not blowing her off, then who do you think is to blame? From my experiences, the providers will learn from their mistakes if you ignore and move on.

So, my advice is, dump her and move on. There are much better providers out there capable of handling their clients in all dimensions of the business including text, e-mails, sex, and the personal agenda. Dump her ass, she needs you, you don't need her, just remember that.

If it get to where you're getting ragged on, it may be time to branch out.

Good point

At this stage you ARE an ATM,
Stop the emails, text and contacts,and start looking for another ATF.

If she is still your fancy after some sampling, then LITTLE contact after some time might mend the differences, if things go back to old habits, and your blown off... Move on and erase her number
She might be in high demand and does not have time for your needs.

Cash is king and you should be treated like a king

Don't make an enemy un-necessarily...  just wind things down.  Quietly move on.  Personally, I have stopped with the single ATF...  now have a few Favorites I rotate.  Helps me keep my head straight & THEY do not take me for granted.   I am & do meet prospectve favorites from time to time...  Have a new one booked as we speak...
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Posted By: MP67

Hit the road, Jack. Tell her you don't think it's going to work anymore, it's your fault, blah, blah, blah. You're going to miss her and can you still be friends. Just be adult about it and she'll appreciate you being honest.

As far as finding another ATF, haven't you looked around here lately?

the fact that he should be grateful that he's arguing with a provider (where the resolution is painless) and not a wife, which could end in a mess, costly divorce.

As Eddie Murphy said in the movie "Raw",  "Half!".

fighting and then 'like nothing happened' in the next session - TOTAL - let's keep this pleasant so you will pay me... maybe that's the thing - the bitchy GFE and then make up sex

lol

move on

Of course she acts like nothing happened - you might stop paying her. You're being played and this is exactly how it happens over time.

Sounds like she doesn't want to be your chat buddy and if that bothers you, don't see her anymore. Your wallet does the talking and the walking so when she stops being nice to you, it's time to move on.

*standing ovation!*  you put into words exactly what I think.  Providers are not your friendS, just a business associate...love it.   Even if they pretend to be friends and say shit like "i was considering being your friend" really? Or "thought we were friends" when you finally stop being an atm. I will say what I posted in the reviewers board: they are providers first, and actual friends very very VERY rarely. Remember it and you won't be an atm. Just go, have a good time, and leave em.don't get involved any further.

Learn that there is a distinction!  Based on what you saying, you are blurring the lines, and that doesn't work.  Best thing you can do when your ATF puts business first is step back, take a deep breath, and let her know you understand.  You will most likely find that she will bend over backwards for you after she is done taking care of business, and you should look forward to that.   She knows that she is your ATF, and she expects you to understand when business comes first.  Do that, and you will keep her as ATF, and her opinion of you will remain high...and the good times will keep on rolling.

This is P4P, what is it weith this All Time Favorite crap?  It should be All Time Fuck or All Time Favorite Fuck  which more like it.