Has this change had any effects on the provider's business, or Marketing?

Do you feel it has strengthened the review system, or made it less relevant?

I'm sure its been a sound business decision for TER and I can't knock it.

However, there has been a noticeable decline in my business traffic specifically from TER.

I used to get emails and PMs daily from site users or viewers saying "wow, saw your reviews and have to meet you".  Now those are few and far inbetween.

I do link to my profile or mention it but its become largely irrelevant to the last minute booking process (versus clients who carefully plan in advance who to see locally our touring).

It seems like new clients glance at the profile to make sure I am who I say I am...but that's about it; they don't go farther or sign up to read the things.

Reviews are less relevant.
It kind of makes me wonder how relevant they were to begin with.
Now that they aren't so available, I get hardly any traffic from the "saw your reviews and I like them" type clients.
Now it's, "I like your ads and website and blog."

Actually I now get much less traffic to my website from TER now.  CityVibe and EscortBlogs are my publicity now.  
I don't know why that is, but just noticing the trend now adays.

did it change my marketing....Yes, I don't post a link to my reviews on any paid or free ad I run. It doesn't make sense to bring a man to another candy store if he's looking my way to begin with. If he where seeing how good I might be here then it would be worth the chance. I'm not sure if other ladies feel the same way.

Without those numbers any info they may get here is already in my ad or on my website.

Kisses Haley

I’ve never really had to rely too heavily on reviews for business. Most of my friends don’t write them, because they prefer discretion for both parties. I’ve only had to ask for a review once, and that was when I was first starting out, trying to get my foot through the TER door. Anyway, I think that’s why I only have 23 reviews after almost two years. So, the decision to hide the review scores didn’t affect me too much in terms of losing business. However, it did stop the sudden overwhelming influx of emails I would receive after a new review of me was posted. So instead of getting a boost in emails from those TER guys who monitor new reviews, I just having steady business and do just fine now.

Reviews don’t do much for me. I feel the only thing they do for my business is prove to the gents who read them that I am legit in terms performance, etc. (and of course this is important). And since my performance hasn’t changed and there’s nothing really more to say about me, new reviews simply benefit my friends who prefer not to pay the $20 for VIP or those who like to share publicly our time together. But most of my friends don't write reviews anyway.

I understand TER’s decision. I’m just glad it hasn’t affected me much. However, I’m certain this isn’t the case for many providers.

I would be mad if my business has depended on it as well. Honestly, if it weren't for their purpose of verifying my legitimacy, I wouldn't want them. Most of my friends don't write reviews either. And it's sad, now that I have cleared up all the discrepancies that kept me from getting the scores that I deserve they have lost their significance.

traffic or email. TER used to be my strongest market. While I still see upper level amounts of traffic each day, TER runs in about third place. I hadn't thought about it from this angle, so I am glad you all are discussing this subject. Most of the people I see also prefer not to write reviews.

Well, according to my webstats:

March 2009:

Click throughs from TER to my website: 150
Click through from my site to TER: 790

March 2010:

Click throughs from TER to my website: 60
Click through from my site to TER: 0

Proof is in the pudding. I said this was going to decrease traffic TO TER when they made the change, as well as other changes made at the same time to encourage increased paid VIP membership. Guess I was psychic.

Also, on average, there were usually between ranged from 4K-6K new reviews at any given time. Now, the average is usually around 3K-4K.

I dunno, maybe in spite of the observable decrease in traffic and new reviews, TER has seen a boost in paid VIP membership. We can only guess on that part, and that of course, is the real bottom line.

My money is on the fact that there is no money to spend on pussy right now.  Things were bad when TER made the change, and they are worse now.
Look at your stats SOF, your total hits are down, most likely, because fewer are buying.  I also doubt that the move TER made worked to force guys into buying a VIP. They just quit looking.
If you know you can't buy something, why waste time looking at the catalog?  Add this to the growing number of everything from out of work students, soccer moms, and grandmothers now trying to make a living on their backs, and diluting the talent pool, and it is a huge mess.
TER didn't cause this problem, the banks did!

Many of us are doing well, if not even better than when review scores were visible to all. And some of us never have to offer specials. I can't even explain the success I've experienced over the last year. Well, I could but I won't. But it is AMAZING! And, the money is there. Clearly, some men can still afford to hobby and they do so despite review numbers being hidden for only VIP to see.

I completely disagree on this one.

COMPLETELY!!!

And some men find reviews irrelevant anyway, even when others don't.

Xoxo.

The only reason I am a vip today is that I was able to get enough info without being vip to get that big fish hook in my lip and get realed in.  I said it was  bad marketing to stop with the partial reviews when I noticed that they did that.  The partial reviews were not enough to get a feel for what was really going on but enough to make me pony up and pay for vip here when I would not at other sites.  I wonder what TER says now about the change?

lucky for us they are Not the only players.
I don't see a drop off in business at all, just a different stream of clients. There is plenty of $$$ for pussy out there. yes the phone rings a bit less but there are less BS calls as well. Longer dates are on an increase so I'd say the players who were less effected and could recover faster are still out there playin...business as usual.

I joined VIP so that I COULD see the scores (and the details behind them). Lot's of choices out there and understanding what you might expect from a provider helps to narrow down the choices. Giamarie Lynn is correct though that the reviews mostly provide verification of legitamacy. I personally would never post a positive review without the providers permission as she may not want/need the additional attention it might bring.

I watch different boards. A guy will post that he is coming to a certain town, and 15 providers post "pick me, pick me".  As far as the 13K for 3 cities, lucky girl.  At the same time she did that, 50 other providers went to 3 cities and had nothing but cancellations, or no calls.  I had a friend who cancelled a long planned tour because she had zero pre bookings, and another who sat in a hotel room for 3 days and had 1 two hour date.  Please don't keep shoveling this kind of crap out, because everyone knows better. You only prove that there are as many "blowhard" women as men on these boards! Some well established providers do have a pool of regular clients that they can count on.  They also never post or advertise on TER or anywhere else.  They are just "known" in their respective cities.
One last thing that is getting very tiring.  Two of you I don't know.  However GML gets on here and other boards,  She is mid 20's, has a "whole year" of history on TER, and continually blows about her vast experience in every possibe situation, her "previous life" with a sugar daddy, her rules of engagement and on and on, like she's been a provider for 30 years.  If you really are that well versed in all areas of the biz, have a lineup of men willing to put up with the rules you set, knocking down your door trying to see you, you wouldn't be wasting your valuable time on this rag board sharing your vast knowledge and experience with the rest of us.  Paaallleeeeese, get over yourself. Really!

Yeah well, if your business continues to be affected by this economy, I'm sorry to hear that. I guess part of the advantage of being low volume is that I never saw much of a drop off in my business. The slow economy for me meant that I don't have to turn down requests as often.

As to the traffic to my website, I didn't say it has decreased overall. It hasn't. I said that there are fewer click throughs from Ter to me, and no more click through from me, to Ter.

If you spent much time on the Provider's board, you would have known this already. I'm not one to talk about how my business is doing publicly. Its just tacky to be honest. In other threads where the economy and its impact on providing has been discussed, I haven't had anything to say. But if you spent time getting to know the women you are busily insulting, you would know that nothing I'm saying here hasn't also been said where it is actually appropriate to discuss such things.

contributed to your "conclusion".  For one, the ecconomy tanked.  Yes, I think it is on the rise (pun intended) now,  I'm not a financial planner but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night; but, not to hobby.

Guys do have less discretionary income to spend on luxury items.  Certain areas of the country have been impacted differently as well.

CORRECTION: What's amazing to me might be less than desirable to another provider.

Anyway, I apologize if I came off as insensitive to those who aren't doing well in this economy.

I made that post late last night after a couple of drinks, so I apologize.

Anyway, the economy certainly has changed, but I came into the business when the economy was down, so really I can't compare how I'm doing to how I could be doing if the economy were truly thriving. What's amazing to me could be horrible to another provider. Plus, as Sins mentioned, it's really no one's business how our businesses are doing. Anyway, I don't know how to really compare in this economy. I just know I am so grateful for my friends, because I can keep a roof over my head. That's pretty amazing in my eyes and this makes me happy. What I do know is there is still some money out there to spend. Of course this isn't the case for everyone, but some, so I apologize if I came off as being insensitive to those who are having financial problems.

Just the perspective of someone who has only been doing this two years, not thirty. I hope that's still valued here.

Have a great day!

-- Modified on 4/10/2010 9:03:07 AM

And I am grateful for TER because of this.

See you all in a week!

She is speaking of her own business and her own experience!

Personally, I've been around for quite a bit longer than Giamarie and I remember what business what like in previous years.

It was considerably easier, advertising costs were less, there was less competition and clients were bookable virtually on demand.

I am still doing "well" for myself, but if I were at this point in my business/experience say 4 years ago before the economy took a dive, well lets just say that is a fantasy.

There are providers who are still faring well; there are providers who aren't and can't hope to anytime soon (smaller markets, oversaturated markets etc etc.)

I recently had a short two and a half day tour and made $5k.  I also recently visited a city and had one 4 hour date in an equal amount of time.

Maybe you think that its unfair that Giamarie keeps speaking as though she's not impacted, but I also believe that Gia has said that 1-3 bookings or so a week is sufficient for her.  Do consider that what she requires is obviously far less than those of us who are accustomed to much, much more.

I think that its unfair to play the "woe this damned economy" card because there ARE still many clients playing, many multiple hour bookings and many successful tours, as hit or miss or unsteady as things are compared to previous years.

If your business currently sucks, fine.  If your friends business sucks, bird of a feather flock together.
The rest of us are bettering ourselves, intensifying our program, modifying our rates appropriately (be it increasing or decreasing) and refusing to settle for pessimism when thousands of clients are still booking appointments.

Gia and I have had our disagreements (imagine that. lol), but over the last several months I think she has matured immensely, and I wouldn't mind seeing her post a bit more often, 23 posts in the last month is hardly burning up the boards.

As far as "money available for pussy" goes, I am so sorry you are a loser and can't afford to get laid, but some of us are doing just fine, I spend every bit as bit as much on the hobby(among other things) and the economy hasn't hurt me at all.

I think that maybe you are the one that should "Paaallleeeeese, get over yourself"  It must suck to be such a loser, no wonder you hide behind an alias. lmao

The economy has absolutely nothing to do with the hobby. They are totally separate.  Discretionary income does not play into the picture at all, as all hobbyists are independently wealthy.  If they weren't, they would have never started in the first place. Although many one active guys are now collecting unemployment, people are cutting back on food, Dr. visits, things for their kids, etc., the one place the economy has not touched is P4P.
It's bullshit, they know it, but I consider the source(s).  Those who can't play as often, or at all are now losers.  Sux to be you "average joes".  Go buy a six pack, and watch TV!

She is beautiful and I have never read a post where she has slammed anyone.

Why wouldn't her phone ring...Take a look at her website and beautiful pictures. Her rates are very reasonable for such a beauty. Her reviews speak volumes themselves. Only she knows what makes her lifestyle comfortable and it's non of our business.

My post wasn't crying "Oh Me" myself. I turn down calls all the time and have gone low volume for a while now. For those who have not noticed I have not been around as much. I see mostly regulars these days and took the whole month of Nov and Dec off. I am getting in the mood for some fresh meat and a little adventure though.

My post was about the changes in what TER use to do for me and what it isn't any more. Less clicks and less "I just saw your review and can't wait to meet you". My rule of thumb is don't bite the hand that feeds you but don't feed one who doesn't carry their load.

Kisses Haley

being an agent or verifier or whatever you label it these days...I have girls coming into town as well as independents that call and ask me if I have any extra clients and this has not happened in this amount before.

I have seen a decrease in regulars who use to call every month now its every 3 mos. so yes economy and then not being able to see the numbers on reviews is big thing. Ive been asked by men who use TER to give them the numbers of the girls they are interested in also, so they won't have to spend 20 bucks! lol yes 20 bucks is a lot of money these days, its 2 -3 gals of gas!

Usually a well reviewed provider does very well in Chicago but not these days! I have seen quite a few leave before their time was up cause of it being slow and an abundance of ncns!

As the price of a barrel is ever-slowly climbing again,I think of your ass(well not your ass exactly)when my small fleet pulls up to their respective pumps and the numbers 'sail by'. LOL


Throw some of that 'pussy-cash' my way once in a while. Don't I deserve some sort of rebate occassionaly?? It's GOOD customer relations. LMAO

I get more clients now and they are less of a headache with screening.

My traffic stats are up from this time last year and in 2008.

TER used to be my number 3, now it is like number 11.

And yes there is A LOT of money out there to be spent on pussy, a lot. Last night alone I missed 42 calls on my phone because I was busy with others.

SG06

With the decline in referrals to providers perhaps TER should lower or make free their services to providers since they have hurt them is pursuit of larger profits from hobbyists.

Without providers there would be no one to review!