Mr. Dark,
Providers do not have to see anyone we are not comfortable with. There is no reason we have to fork over for our own preferences. Sometimes it is as wrong as two left shoes....but it is what it is. Sorry about that.
Pitt gave you the best answers and the most honest answers. Kudos to him for being unbiased in his answer to you.
As a provider I have no problems seeing brothers.....and yes I am black....and yes there are tons of sisters who will NOT see brothers....(go figure) I am not concerned about the color or in the line of thought that bc a man is black he is automatically dangerous? Or that he is going to be balls to the wall....for me that is a good thing..........and my most off the hook balls to the walls sweaty pure nasty PSE session award goes to my WHITE rugby player in Cali!!! When it comes to FUCKING and going non stop for the entire duration of the session......the color or ethnicity of the man or woman does not matter....it is purely a skill set, body strength, and raging hormones.
Same with dangerous clients......evil people are not bound by skin color.....the only thing idiots have in common is that they are IDIOTS.
There is nothing you nor I can do about your issue. Just remember what she won't do another smart business lady will certainly do for you and do it well.
So Sir, move on there are wayyyyy too many intelligent, sexy, reputable, and balanced ladies who are not concerned with the race card.
Warm kisses and licks
123295
can someone please tell me why there are numerous ads that specifically state "NO BLACK MEN"? i have yet to come across an ad that excludes any other race. i am bi-racial. the product of a white mother and a black father. i understand that there could be multiple reasons why a particular woman prefers to exclude but there has to be a majority reason. what is it? is it the elephant in the room? i dont see it being the stereotypical 'big penis' reason. is it concern about safety? i have also seen ads that read "NO BLACK MEN UNDER 40" please explain....
I've heard many providers say that black guys tend to be more demanding and pushy and don't want to pay a lot.... So for some, they've said it isn't worth the hassle they go through "most of the time". Sucks I know.... anyway, that's what I've heard...... take it for what it's worth.... 02cents
i' not racist but take a look at the stat for crime rate.
Crime is more motivated by socio-economic status than race. That a preponderance of folks of low socio-economic status may be non-white does not mean that race equates to likelihood of crime.
One plus one does not equal three.
You can be as dumb as you like and try to argue the causes of the numbers of minorities being of low socio-economic status... but at least you be arguing a real issue.
And I am as white as they come, so don't gimme that one either. If you're not racist then that doesn't leave us many other good options for your comment.
Maybe a personal preference?
I used to be one that wouldnt see black men. Then I had someone show up that was black and I didnt know beforehand. Was one of the best sessions I ever had!
Now I dont discriminate.....I welcome all races.....I do draw the line at very young tho....for personal reasons.
Hope this helps and good luck!
1. They are just straight-up racists.
2. They have a Black pimp/boyfriend, and they justify that having sex with other guys is OK as long as the other guys are not Black.
There's no other answer that passes the smell test. "Concerns about safety?" Please! If I recall, the CL killer was a white guy. So if a provider really wants to be "safe," she should stop seeing white men. Not too many stereotypical "gang-bangers" or "thugs" are perusing TER looking for providers.
Pitt Panther
1. They are just straight-up racists.
2. They have a Black pimp/boyfriend, and they justify that having sex with other guys is OK as long as the other guys are not Black.
You forgot the third reason.. Some Black providers discriminate against Black hobbyists because "some" Black hobbyists don't show respect with their sisters, like they do with White Ladies.
Just like "some" White guys don't respect their Moms.
Feeling safe is a perception of the situation, not the situation itself. If a person has a severe, frighening experience that will often color her feeling of safety for a long time thereafter even if there is no "logic". A person bitten by one dog may feel unsafe around all dogs. many people who watched Jaws developed a fear of going in the water, sometimes even lakes where a great white was logically impossible. Without knowing a particular provider's situation and history it is presumptuous to think you know what is a legitimate concern/fear for her.
Also most providers don't only advertize on TER. Just because one segment of society isn't common here doesn't mean they don't see her ads.
So ... I don't think there's much into the racists issue.
There are a couple other, but the topic is boring.
HalfHour
so if you don't want a guy up your ass your homophobic, if he was black and up your ass it was not be racist , it is a personal preference, like preferring or not preferring BBWs. according to you a woman should not have a choice as to clients
It has everything to do with personal preference. Maybe some people just don't find people of another race or ethnicity attractive. It doesn't mean they are racists.
I'm sure there are a number of reasons and it can all be traced to personal preference. It doesn't mean that somebody is a racist!
Mr. Dark,
Providers do not have to see anyone we are not comfortable with. There is no reason we have to fork over for our own preferences. Sometimes it is as wrong as two left shoes....but it is what it is. Sorry about that.
Pitt gave you the best answers and the most honest answers. Kudos to him for being unbiased in his answer to you.
As a provider I have no problems seeing brothers.....and yes I am black....and yes there are tons of sisters who will NOT see brothers....(go figure) I am not concerned about the color or in the line of thought that bc a man is black he is automatically dangerous? Or that he is going to be balls to the wall....for me that is a good thing..........and my most off the hook balls to the walls sweaty pure nasty PSE session award goes to my WHITE rugby player in Cali!!! When it comes to FUCKING and going non stop for the entire duration of the session......the color or ethnicity of the man or woman does not matter....it is purely a skill set, body strength, and raging hormones.
Same with dangerous clients......evil people are not bound by skin color.....the only thing idiots have in common is that they are IDIOTS.
There is nothing you nor I can do about your issue. Just remember what she won't do another smart business lady will certainly do for you and do it well.
So Sir, move on there are wayyyyy too many intelligent, sexy, reputable, and balanced ladies who are not concerned with the race card.
Warm kisses and licks
123295
I agree with Allure this topic is getting old I have found in my personal experience from talking to ladies that most of their guys are black and tell them not to see black men.I have seen this many many times first hand.The lady will knock on the door and if a black guy answers she makes up an excuse that she is at the wrong door or comes in the room,but be very guarded and will make up an excuse to leave.I have seen black,white,spanish,asian, entertainers just about every race you can think of I have seen them decline a black guy solely on his skin color.A few times I could see them declining to stay if the gentleman is young and disrespectful,but in most cases the gentleman was older,educated,and not ghetto.The thing is I have seen firsthand how this affects the gentleman and more than one has asked me "why would she do that or why was she so rude and tell me to my face that she will not see black guys?"This is my experience from when I used to work for agencies and of course you don't know who you will be seeing beforehand in most cases.I have even been asked from the agency "will I see a black guy?"Of course,I will their money is green like everyone else.For the ladies that post this on their website that is their prerogative to do so.Does this piss some guys off?I'm sure but there are so many flavors and types of ladies that I wouldn't even dwell on it.
Providers do not have to see anyone we are not comfortable with. There is no reason we have to fork over for our own preferences. Sometimes it is as wrong as two left shoes....but it is what it is. Sorry about that.
Pitt gave you the best answers and the most honest answers. Kudos to him for being unbiased in his answer to you.
As a provider I have no problems seeing brothers.....and yes I am black....and yes there are tons of sisters who will NOT see brothers....(go figure) I am not concerned about the color or in the line of thought that bc a man is black he is automatically dangerous? Or that he is going to be balls to the wall....for me that is a good thing..........and my most off the hook balls to the walls sweaty pure nasty PSE session award goes to my WHITE rugby player in Cali!!! When it comes to FUCKING and going non stop for the entire duration of the session......the color or ethnicity of the man or woman does not matter....it is purely a skill set, body strength, and raging hormones.
Same with dangerous clients......evil people are not bound by skin color.....the only thing idiots have in common is that they are IDIOTS.
There is nothing you nor I can do about your issue. Just remember what she won't do another smart business lady will certainly do for you and do it well.
So Sir, move on there are wayyyyy too many intelligent, sexy, reputable, and balanced ladies who are not concerned with the race card.
Warm kisses and licks
123295
WTF difference does it make what a man's color is? The only thing that should matter is his character and the fact the envelope contains 'greenbacks'!
'and my most off the hook balls to the walls sweaty pure nasty PSE session award goes to my WHITE rugby player in Cali!!!'
You're cut off! Fuck that! Tell Mr. Rubgy dude to fly out to NM to see your ass! 
MIKEY.....YOU CAN KISS MY ASS...........wait...you would actually enjoy that way too much....ok not sure what to say at this point?
You're cut off! Fuck that! Tell Mr. Rubgy dude to fly out to NM to see your ass!
Agreed...
People are people, and people tend to be prejudiced (not necessarily racist) by nature.
Providers can pick and choose their clients for whatever reasons they like, good or bad. Do you complain if a white lady doesn't want to date a black man (or vice versa) in the civvie world?
I am prejudiced, and I know it. Do not assume that you know what that means. I like providers of all colors, nationalities, ethnicities, etc. I do, however, like different things about "white ladies" compared to, say... black, African, European, Asian, etc. I have also dated and been in LTR from all of these categories.
I have more respect for someone that knows and acknowledges their limitations than someone who pretends that the issues don't or shouldn't exist.
Until we accept that we are who we are we cannot get beyond that.
And since then, she feels uneasy with black dudes. So one reason can be trauma.
Another provider got robbed by a Black dude - took her money and all.
I think some providers, like 20 somethin providers, have very tight pussies. I have a hard time putting my hard thick cock inside them without Lub. So, maybe they are scared of big black dicks?
"No Black Man under 40" - means provider will see well-behaved Black men who are more mature and possibly have white-collar jobs. Means they don't like ghetto type teenagers.
But I've also seen ads that say "No men over 300 pounds". So for a heavy set black dude, tough luck.
on whatever basis pleases her.
PC has no place in the hobby. It is diametrically opposed to everything the hobby is about, categorically and fundamentally.
There are ladies who do not want to entertain gents under a certain age, over a certain age, who will not provide certain information, will not comply with their various protocols, and who will not provide the requested donation. Simple. Her choice.
Are not a black man. You are bi-racal.. Start with an introduction to your lady friend and be honest..
You would be surprised at the response you get...
I post it in my ads because.. You would not believe the number of stoned, ill speaking, young black men that call with something like "Hey baby can you handle some of this Big Black dick" at 2am...
I do not see thugs, pimps, truck drivers, anyone under 35 and to be honest I don't usually see Indian or Mexican/Latino men.. why you ask, because that group tends to not have respect for women.....
I have the right to choose.
I am also willing to bet that you may not be attracted a certain type of woman either.. Asian, blonde whatever.. We all like what we like,,,,
"I do not see thugs, pimps, truck drivers, anyone under 35"
For a minute there, I thought you were going to throw "bikers" in that crowd.
I am glad we made the cut.
We are mostly just teddy bears.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!
--------------this is true. i am in my late 30's and most of my adulthood has been spent in europe. that is where i am originally from. that is where my heart is. i have always described myself as 'biracial' but since i have been living in texas i say that i am black. i am not about playing the race card at all but after being pulled over by cops several times and NOT getting ticketed,i am forced to call it as i see it. if i was stopped for speeding, ok. or if my headlight is out, ok. at least then i would have a physical document representing the
respective law that i did not follow but it boils down to me having the audacity to drive a nice convertible. race is less of a factor in europe.america i guess is still holding on to the past (on a local leve---------------l
Start with an introduction to your lady friend and be honest..
------------honesty is never an issue.i am still on one hand the number of times i have explored this way.so i am still 'learning'
You would be surprised at the response you get...
I post it in my ads because.. You would not believe the number of stoned, ill speaking, young black men that call with something like "Hey baby can you handle some of this Big Black dick" at 2am...
I do not see thugs, pimps, truck drivers, anyone under 35 and to be honest I don't usually see Indian or Mexican/Latino men.. why you ask, because that group tends to not have respect for women.....
I have the right to choose.
----------i agree. of course you have the right to choose. in your case it seems to be the norm in texas if you come across the demographic you mentioned, the likelihood of it being a lack of respect is high, and i understand you filtering out that negativity. i asked the question because it truly is a new phenomenon to me. i didnt get why if a provider was going to exclude a particular group in their ad, its more likely to be black men. and to respond to your assumption that i too would filter out a particular group if i were in the same position. i probably would, where you and i differ is that the group i would exclude would have nothing to do with physical features. i would always want to be around people that i could learn from. thats my dealbreaker.
thanks for taking the time to respond...
I am also willing to bet that you may not be attracted a certain type of woman either.. Asian, blonde whatever.. We all like what we like,,,,
Just kidding...I have no friends. And I could not begin to anser your question. But...it is what it is.
It's just a preference..Every lady is entitled to have restrictions on her clientle..Leave it at that....Don't make it out to be more than it is....
The hobby is full of providers who have no racial preference. If you live in or near a large city, finding the provider of your choice should not be an issue.
Why be concerned over the ladies who WON'T see you? Why not concentrate on the gorgeous, witty, sexy women who see men who fit your description? If you are a gentleman and behave as such you will have no shortage of companionship. For every blonde, or redhead, (or even ebony) sweetie that doesn't see black men there are 3 that will. So seek out those three. It's really that simple.
There are a variety of reasons for a lady to exclude one group in favor of another each one is valid in the hobby world.
no one can ever explain a person's personal choice. it's their personal choice.
just like a gent may exclude women of color....or biracial women who have a hint of color to their skin. I dont fault the gents who like skinny chicks instead of a women with an actual body(me). lol. Who cares? I dont! There are plenty others out there!
one shouldnt waste brain cells or time trying to figure it out.
on to the next.
ta da.
okay. we shouldnt see this post for another month, right? right.
The rate of HIV is about 10 times higher for blacks than for whites in America.
where are you getting your info from?You posted this to say what?
Men of the same economic class typically have the same health profile. If provider sees rough cut men, she is no more secure against HIV with a white than she is with a man of any other race. Granted, intraveneous drug use is higher among blacks, but people that shoot up are rather unlikely to be offering $250+ for an hour for a lady's time.
This is what I heard from a blonde USF student who I met couple of months back. She does hobby on the side and is only 19. She lives in Tampa near USF with a group of 10 other girls who also hobby. The area around USF is a high crime area and everyday at least 10 black men are rounded up and arrested for drugs, shoplifting and domestic violence. The girls specifically post on BP in bold capitals "NO BLACK MEN PLEASE".
Many of my Asian Indian friends who hobby have no problems making appointments with these girls.
It is more of a cultural and society issue rather than color. Also black men have to know there is no such thing as "EQUAL OPPORTUNITY" providers. It is a personal thing of choice.
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"Many of my Asian Indian friends who hobby have no problems making appointments with these girls."
I've heard Indian men have a really tough time in the hobby. Same with Mexicans and Arabs. Are your friends rich? Are they "Americanized"?
This topic fascinates me...you would think providers would only see shades of green.
Thanks in advance!
RedCloak a.k.a. THE GREEN GIANT with a tiny branch LOL!
Me and my friends were all born here, right here in USA. I am graduate of MIT and my friends are either resident doctors or in high paying IT professionals. Each of us have $3000 every month earmarked for this hobby.
"Many of my Asian Indian friends who hobby have no problems making appointments with these girls."
I've heard Indian men have a really tough time in the hobby. Same with Mexicans and Arabs. Are your friends rich? Are they "Americanized"?
This topic fascinates me...you would think providers would only see shades of green.
Thanks in advance!
RedCloak a.k.a. THE GREEN GIANT with a tiny branch LOL!
I was with a provider recently and she told me that she rarely accepted black guys because she was once robbed and beaten by a black guy. She said in her personal life she loved us but that we were bad for business. I'm sure that its different reasons for each individual but she she said that she made majority of her income from older white gentelmen and one of the questions thwy aske her was does she see black guys. She said that black guys are usually hung a little more and the young ones usually put a lot of wear and tear on the body. I can understand because I'm not a very young guy but I do have a decent size member and I if I make a donation for a certain amount of time, I'm going to want to my moneys worth. This particular provider really enjoyed our time and gave me a sweet kiss on the cheek afterwards. However when I called for a second appointment a day or two later she told me that she was asleep. It was 10:30 on a Saturday night......
As distasteful as racism is and since the endeavors we participate here are not of "legal" status (in the US, with a few exceptions), there is no legal protection to make a provider see all without regard to race, color, creed, sexual preference, national origin, weight, handicaps, penis size, and so on ad nausiusm. But on the plus side of a lady stating her preferences (whatever they are), means that the person being excluded will not pay for an experience that they will probably find very lackluster.
There are some people that haven’t learned we are all created equal and still hold on to their old values, their lost. So kids let’s put an end to this before some one says some thing they’ll be sorry for latter.
There are plenty of providers for all of us to see and if one doesn’t want to see us move on to the next one.
Now Allure will you please take a tour to Phoenix and take care of this Old Italian before I get to old to play.