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they didn't talk about that when I did NOLS
seventhson 3624 reads
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although I could have been ready for Navy SEALS basic training when NOLS got done with me. Back then they taught usable outdoor skills that hold up for extended forays into wilderness. Good map reading skills too... pity these fools that are lost without a GPS, and a helluva lot of mental toughness too... but that was three months in alaska pre exxon valdez..

sounds like NOLS has become infested with former EST types... which isn't an altogether bad thing, but the ESToids love nothing better than reductivist oversimplification and stirring phraseology with insufficient theoretical structure behind it...

having been there and done that as well.

jackvance4201 reads

So I'm doing my usual leadership reading, relating it my own experiences, and I come across some interesting stuff that somehow makes me think of the TER folks as much as makes me think of the climbers I lead. It's from the National Outdoor Leadership School's 2001 "Leadership Education Toolbox":

"One of the most powerful changes a leader can make is to become a more differentiated self.  There is no substitute for bettering overall group health than to have a highly differentiated leader at the helm.

The theory of self differentiation says that we all operate under an interplay of desires for individuality and for togetherness.  We are spread out on a continuum with how we balance these forces in relationship, which in turn helps or hinders how we deal with life's stresses and challenges.  On one end of the continuum are those who are very stuck together in relationship and less differentiated as people.  On this end, a person's emotional reactions are easily triggered, intense and prolonged.  In relationships, whatever one does, says or believes, radically affects the other person and vice versa.  This may show up in total agreement, constant arguing, reactive distancing, or extreme independence.

On the other end of the continuum are individuals who are described as well differentiated, emotionally mature, and who can bring a lot of self to any relationship.  A person is comfortable being who one is, and saying or doing what he or she thinks he or she needs to say or do, in any relationship.  The togetherness forces are not felt as deep longings or intense reactions, but as basic attention, care and interest in one's fellow human beings.  This allows someone more choices about when to go along with others and when to be an individual.  Reactivity decreases markedly with each step along the continuum of self-differentiation.  Highly differentiated leaders maintain a good deal of calm even when people are disagreeing with them or resisting their ideas.  They keep things in perspective, seeing both paradox and humor in themselves and life.  They can be very emotional - but they have more choice about it.  People generally have more connected relationships, make better choices and are more effective leaders when they have greater self-differentiation."

This is good stuff.  Many of the TER guys and some of the gals too do tend to feel the togetherness forces as deep longings and intense reactions, when a healthier approach would be to feel these forces more as basic attention, care and interest in the other person as a fellow human being.  Less intensity, more calmness, more distance. (And more calmness also, for example, when you disagree strongly with someone on this board).  A calm and deep understanding of who we are, a high comfort level with ourselves, a very positive feeling of being in control of our lives - these are what I try to teach people how to experience through climbing mountains.  



seventhson3625 reads

although I could have been ready for Navy SEALS basic training when NOLS got done with me. Back then they taught usable outdoor skills that hold up for extended forays into wilderness. Good map reading skills too... pity these fools that are lost without a GPS, and a helluva lot of mental toughness too... but that was three months in alaska pre exxon valdez..

sounds like NOLS has become infested with former EST types... which isn't an altogether bad thing, but the ESToids love nothing better than reductivist oversimplification and stirring phraseology with insufficient theoretical structure behind it...

having been there and done that as well.

jackvance3626 reads

to send several shuttle crews to them for custom team-building wilderness trips.  The crew lost on the Columbia did one of these.

Not aware of any EST influence on NOLS - not into pop psychology myself.

seventhson3298 reads

EST had an advanced 6 day long residential training for those of us who wanted to take it to another level. Their thought processes were, emmm, unique. One evening they had us gather in the training room where three movie projectors were set up in the rear and three movie screens were side by side in the front of the room. When we were all obidiently seated and the lights turned off they proceeded to show three hard core porn movies simultaneously, the works, gay fisting, a vintage b+w of a whippet having sex with a chinese woman, on and on and on, the whole magillah short of kiddie porn (thank heavens we were spared that)... a Kubrickian sex spectacular that put frat parties to shame...  in the "discussion" period that followed, the trainer requested things like all those in this room who have had anal sex please stand up. Everybody in the room stood up, housewives, straightlaced types... maybe some of the group didn't want to look uptight and stood up out of conformity...
it may have been more enlightening to ask for all those who had anal sex and liked it enough to do it regularly to please stand up. A lot of people say they've tried it once but it hurt and they didn't want to do it again...

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