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Can you love both your wife and hooker?
DT_lover 188 Reviews 26 reads
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1 / 26

That tells me I'm not a polymorhpo.  

Once I find "the best" I want to keep it exclusively...until a better one comes along.

HarleySullivan 124 Reviews 13 reads
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2 / 26

I guess it depends on your definition of "love". I love a lot of people, but in different ways. There are about a dozen women here that I love to spend time with every chance I get. I think about all of them frequently.  

Now, what I think you're struggling with is the deeper meaning of "love" that society promotes that you should forsake all others. This happens, I'm sure, but I expect it is rare.

micktoz 43 Reviews 12 reads
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4 / 26

My second marriage was just about done when I started P4P and I ended it a couple of months after. As to being able to love more than one at a time, I am very much poly amorous.  

I'm not talking about infatuation or cock getting hard attraction. I'm talking about being happy hanging out when the makeup is off, when my beard is stubbly, when she farts in bed, in love.  Yes, I have proven that to myself that I can.

The problem happens when the longing to be around the women gets overwhelming and poor decisions get made. It takes some emotional maturity and consciousness about caring for the other person. How to love without demanding attention or how to react to being jealous. The emotional ups and downs can be very strong. That's why so many strongly suggest to not get that deep into a relationship with a hooker, or for a hooker to not get involved with a monger.

All very complex and can be pretty amazing too.
I have noticed that I am really good at allowing myself to fall for women that really aren't fully available. A lot of self preservation, I guess.  
What i do know is that I would never ask a partner to change for me. If she isn't perfect now, she won't be perfect later.  
The greatest way of showing love is being willing to let someone go when they want change. Real love isn't possesion.

To the ladies that I love (you know who you are)  I LOVE YOU!  ALWAYS!

Dunderheaded 24 reads
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5 / 26

I have definitely thought I could fall in love with a hooker. Only twice, and they were both extraordinary people.  I took a sincere interest in them and they showed their affection in the only genuine way a hooker can, by banging you off the clock until your dick falls off.  I didn't get past the whistful daydreaming stage, and definitely didn't tell them. If only my wife would bang me off the clock. That would be nice.

souls_harbor 26 reads
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6 / 26

When I became a young man I fell in love with whoever was in front of me.  Later I would form longer term infatuations.  But somebody new could still walk in at any moment.  When I got married the first time, I still had two females on the side, one of whom I carried on a long term affair until I was caught and divorced.   Foolishly I got married a second time.  Now regret that error.  My wife is a friend (kind of a bitchy friend, but oh well) rather than my "love."   The impulse to "love" has dwindled as I've gotten older.  Now I form intimate friendships.  I just happen to like to keep friends forever.  That's a sort of love, I guess.  I don't need or want a million friends.  I've never kicked a friend out who wasn't exploitative.  So once they're friends, they're friends as long as they want to be.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 16 reads
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7 / 26

before my wife passed.  However, if you want to include the question of whether a man can love more than one hooker at a time, I would say in my case, a definite YES.  

 
As to your second question, what business is it of a hooker who (else) a customer loves?  Your post makes it sound like its easy for you to slip into stalker mode.  When you love someone and they love someone else, its called a "love triangle" and there is usually an odd man out in the end, which will be the person with whom you have the least emotional investment.  Most times I think that is going to be the hooker.  I know that's not what you're hoping to hear, but those are the facts, ma'am.  I know several guys who have been caught by their wives having a mistress, sugar baby, or hooker on the side, and in every case, when push came to shove, the guy stayed with his wife . . . .  . and after a suitable hiatus, started over again with another woman on the side once his wife was no longer suspicious.  

kylalavi See my TER Reviews 32 reads
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8 / 26
lopaw 29 Reviews 25 reads
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9 / 26
vantheman666 10 Reviews 25 reads
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10 / 26

We love all our children, all our nieces and nephews, all our dogs and cats. Why would spouses, mistresses, girlfriends and hookers work differently?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 26 reads
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11 / 26
1980STT 69 Reviews 27 reads
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12 / 26

There is this lady who is one of the most gorgeous, sexy and prettiest women I have ever seen in my over four decades on this earth.   Wha amazes me is she's a provider and is what what low volume now.  I was insanely lucky to meet her and wow...I can't stop thinking about her.  She's amazing and in reality if she moved to my area and wanted to try a relationship I would at least try it.  Plus, the sex with her was just amazing.  When we are together it's pure sexual pleasure, but not in a porn style way.  More of a passionate type.  But, she's the only one.

NoGreenBorderedEnvelope 11 reads
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13 / 26

... there's only one word for "love". Greek, for example, has four distinct words for love:  agápe, éros, philía, and storgē.  

So to answer your questions:  I love my wife, and I also love multiple providers.  But the forms of love are different with different people.  With my wife, it's agápe mostly. There was éros in the past, but...  Anyway, with the providers I love, it's mostly éros, but there's a few providers I consider friends and with them there's philía too.

I've only told one provider (whom consider a friend) that I love her. I only told her because I knew she'd understand what I meant (she did a lot of Bible study in her youth and knows about the Greek terms for love).  And I understood what she meant when she told me she loves me.  I haven't told other providers that I "love" them because, as evidenced by this thread and similar threads, that kind of proclamation could be misconstrued.  

starstuff 16 Reviews 28 reads
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14 / 26

You can love whoever you want.

It's totally ok.

Crazy Diamond 12 Reviews 19 reads
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15 / 26

I am single, no children, never married.  Not involved in a serious civvie relationship in over a decade.  I have several current ATF's, and several others I see less often, or don't feel quite the same about, plus a number who have left the game.  Do I love them?  Yes, all of them.  Would I enter into a serious relationship with any of them transcending the hobby?   Maybe.  Then again, I am definitely polyamorous.   I like it, because that's who and what I am, at the present time.    

eroticspirit 27 Reviews 37 reads
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16 / 26

This was a great quote by Micktoz that bears repeating: "The greatest way of showing love is being willing to let someone go when they want change. Real love isn't possession."

I truly believe society at large would be so much happier and freer if we lived on a more communal, polyamorous level. Nobody "owns" or "possesses" anyone---we are all inhabiting this planet together. Everything is so "territorial"---which creates all sorts of division, jealousy, etc etc etc. I do believe the late 60's counterculture tried hard to seek out more communal lifestyle arrangements---sadly those experiments by and large disintegrated due to over-indulgences and a lack of structure.

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loon38 24 reads
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17 / 26

I would offer the opinion that we could all "go the bank" with Melissa's observations and advice.  From my own personal experience, her advice about expressing "love" to a provider is "death on wheels" if you want to maintain an ongoing  relationship with her!  

passionpal 19 Reviews 25 reads
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18 / 26

Tried to love two at once nearly killed me.  Felt so damn guilty. Nope, not for me.

impposter 49 Reviews 77 reads
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19 / 26

Various philosophers and theologians slice and dice it even more finely. Their writings can be quite extensive, but here's the short version:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hide-and-seek/201606/these-are-the-7-types-love
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These Are the 7 Types of Love
Eros, Philia, Storge, Agape, Ludus, Pragma, Philautia  
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(Seriously: there is a huge bibliography of 1000s of years of writings on the topic.)

blue5361 157 Reviews 27 reads
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20 / 26

Come on! Spending an hour or two once or twice a week inside four walls is hardly enough time to fall truly in love! Even if you throw in a little bit of OTC time on top! That’s a lusty friendship with good sex!  In my opinion, it takes a year of almost constantly being together to Fall fully in love with someone. My philosophy comes from living in a four season climate, and I think you need to see that persons holiday family interactions etc. before truly knowing them and being fully in love! That’s loving a wife versus loving a provider! How about Arie on the Batchelor? Any true love there? Not!!

souls_harbor 18 reads
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21 / 26

Lots of definitions for love, but the key thing is how one behaves.  

These behaviors would evidence romantic love ...  concern and interest in your well being, interest in what's going on in your life, a sympathetic ear, a desire to share their own thoughts and feelings. Yes, some jealousy and possessiveness (it's hard to eliminate all traces of it.)

There is a constant desire for contact (physical and emotional) and a sadness at parting for extended periods.

If you or someone you know exhibits these symptoms, seek professional care.  You or they are probably in love.

MassagebyM 28 reads
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22 / 26

It I see very easy and natural to fall for someone you get intimate with. I'd love a secret rendezvous with a married guy, I'm a weirdo 🙃

theoldcavalier 2 Reviews 30 reads
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23 / 26

Human, yes. Complicated, yes. I think I have some of that same conflict.

souls_harbor 72 reads
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24 / 26

If you google the question you'll find that some women prefer the feelings of no condom.  Part of it is psychological, of course.  Many say condoms dry them out quicker.  Some really get turned on by the thought of a man cumming inside them.  A large percentage also say they really can't feel the difference.  And a few prefer the feeling of condoms. So of course it is going to vary.

souls_harbor 32 reads
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25 / 26

I was never able to talk myself out of being in love.  But as they say, time heals all wounds.  

I was once madly in love with the office secretary.  But she was reticent to date.  I would see her every day.  It was debilitating.  Of course over the years I'd mostly forgotten about her.   Reflecting back, there was nothing particularly special about this chick.  Her personality would have been incompatible with mine -- it would have been a disastrous relationship.

That's why I don't put much stock into biologically driven love.  It's really just trying to propagate the species.  It's very intense (drives a lot of people to suicide or murder out of jealousy or despair.)  But it is very irrational as far as matching for compatibility.

There is a postscript twist to this story ... I found out only recently she died of a weird disease 15 years ago.  

NoGreenBorderedEnvelope 25 reads
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26 / 26
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