class difference between Ter providers, switter providers and SWers in general. It's safe to say that Ter providers are classy. I think that the review process weeds out the bottom of the barrel SWers on ter. I also had no idea of the whole findom niche and I've found that it's nearly impossible to block them all on switter.
To begin with I want preface this with I love idea of a platform that allows mostly any free exchange of ideas and thoughts. I still prefer TER for a few reasons. And I am still hoping TER is able to fid a solution and rise from its current form.
Switter continues to evolve. That is great, but its also a huge issue. Switter is a mess of good and bad. As more and more SW find it, it becomes a platform of diverse yet uncategorized posts. It needs coordination and organization. Letting all SW no matter their area of SW post same area create either an opportunity or a hindrance. Depends on your opinion. In honesty I learned two whole different areas of SW exist that I never heard of before.
I am not going to try to make a case for, or against, is all SW really SW. That is for the more knowing people to discuss. I am not going make a case for Elite vs Car Date should be in same category, again more knowing people should decide. I do think myself that all are SW. On Switter you will see post from International TOP 10 and Miss TER posts sandwich between SW offering car dates and SW offering nothing but send her money because you are worthless FinDom. Obviously very much the range.
One friend tell me they think its wild wild west. I dont mind my post sandwich between anyone. It is what it is. But its an issue that it is a post. There is a dedicated section for Ads, but again everyone is sandwich between everyone no matter what type.Its called a listing. To make your listing more findable you put words with a hashtag like #christine or #playswithall or whatever you like. Of course in my listing I would have a #manila.
There actually are moderator other than the developers. There are several that are well know on these boards and members of TER. How that develops I have no idea. But since I am a no drama person it really I hope never have an affect on me.
It is a still developing process. However here i can say the following. I have NEVER had an issue with what i call hit and run inquiries From TER. The experience of many potential clients from Switter has been very lacking or downright lower class. I have had many good inquiry, but the stupid far outweigh the good. Inexperience with understand even a medium level of screening.
In the end, I hope my TER comes back. But also I am interested to see how Switter continue to grow and how it comes to terms of organization and maybe even segregation.
Christine=
class difference between Ter providers, switter providers and SWers in general. It's safe to say that Ter providers are classy. I think that the review process weeds out the bottom of the barrel SWers on ter. I also had no idea of the whole findom niche and I've found that it's nearly impossible to block them all on switter.
I was able to block all findom, Paypig, camgirl, etc to make my local feed much more enjoyable. If you read @omgheatherjana 's feed you can get step by step instructions on muting posts with content you don't want to see.
Also your home feed is where you will spend most of your time anyway and that is just people you follow.
When I first got on Switter I was put off by the amount of adds from people I didn't want to see. Once I found out how to manage the feed it is much nicer to read.
Yes I start muting almost within my first hour there. I just check, I have over 900 mute addresses. I just don't want see ads to buy pee and poop. And honest I would be ashamed. Some of those cam girls so cute I could eat them up, and then some just horrible. But they make money I guess so some men must like.
Christine
Worked perfectly. @omgheatherjana definitely has a wealth of information as do you. I was able to clean up my feed with a few simple clicks. @turrent88 Happy hunting.
I did the same.. blocking posts from folks that post way to much or things I'm not interested in..
My issue now with Switter is error after error.. so it's unusable.. no idea what the issue is..
I am so careful to not try make a class distinction or judgement for fear of getting flame.
But I must agree that the FinDom thing just really shock me. It was just wow. I guess there is someone for everything.
I do know there simply is no way deny the difference in people who contact me from switter vs those that usually come from TER. Switter seems be easier a short notice thing. Something that does not fit well in my lifestyle. However it seems to work for and maybe even preferable to many others.
Christine
It's early days on switter and it's going to take a while (and some concerted attention) to get things sorted out (if ever). With TER being in much reduced circumstances, it's a good idea to have a Plan B (as well as a Plan C, Plan D, etc.). I'm not sure if switter is going to be a viable Plan B but it will do for now -- we'll see how things sort themselves out in the near future.
If anyone seeks to use switter, make sure you have time and take an extra dose of patience. if nothing else, it's a good way to stay in touch with others that you might have become familiar with in other venues.
Buena suerte!
I truly hope TER will make some adjustments and come back on top. I'm also new to switter and don't post too much. The feeds are mainly jumbled and not easy to navigate to what you want or are looking for. Everything takes some time to get use to but I honestly miss TER. Still happy I can log on....somewhat of a ghost town here but I appreciate it.
What you see depends on what/who you follow.
I'm having good luck following providers I know. Have only found a few so far, but my network will grow.
Any provider who has met me, please follow me, and I will follow you in return.
-- Modified on 4/18/2018 3:18:56 PM
"sandwiched" a few times, and I can't complain at all about it.
I also feel that switter is like "The Wild Wild West", since it's still evolving and appears to be experiencing growing pains. I get the impression that the group that launched switter probably never expected a mass migration from not only our hobbying community (i.e. providers, clients), but from other sectors of the audit industry and the fetish communities that you see on FetLife, for example.
Needless to say, if it weren't for the use of hashtag filters, muting, etc., my local feed would be a total mess. Although as I follow more providers that I know from TER and other hobby sites, I tend to focus on my home feed more often.
I also saw one of your toots which you suggested that clients fill in their switter profile with pertinent info like their board affiliations, hobbying city, verification membership, etc. so providers will know that we are real clients. I think that's a good idea considering the current nature of switter.
Glad you saw my suggestion. It was retoot about 20 times over 4 days. I think you and maybe 5 other people saw it, and actually pay attention to it. Make no mistake i am very serious. there are I am sure many kids, idiots, dumbass and idiots on Switter. Its going to need some form of regulation and enforcement of it.
Makes you think just how much you complain TER, then see what its like to have no rules. Scary,
Christine
I saw it, did it, and retooted it. It was excellent advice for a client.
Christine, thanks for taking the time to give us an update and your views on Switter. I'm still on the fence of whether or not to join and posts like this one is helpful.
I've been using switter since it was mentioned here.
My big takeaway is that there is a TON of man-hate, and a ton of pseudo-man-hate going on in the form of poorly done findom (I haven't seen one 'findom' on switter that didn't just come across as a vapid, entitled brat). Neither are my cup of tea, so I wind up blocking around 50% of my "local" feed.
The "federated" feed is completely worthless.
The "home" feed is somewhat useful after you wade through the mountain of shit and follow people you're interested in.
The Listings page is useful for finding people you're interested in, or interested in seeing, but is poorly moderated.
Overall, what bothers me the most is that providers on switter are much like providers on twitter in that they're not putting a professional face out there, and they're typically very, very anti-review. I don't get the feeling that most of them truly enjoy the line of work that they're in, but are instead doing it because they have no other marketable skills.
I don't think it could get more different, or more incompatible with, providers on TER. At this point, I'm only using because the listings page could turn into the new ad board and coupled with some site that offers reviews it could turn into a good thing.
Outside of all that, I agree with the previous posts in this thread. It's the wild west, and not in a romanticized fun way, but more of a "you may get shot" kind of way.
"There's a million ways to die in the West."
Girls fro.m Places several thousand miles away
just for distance. They might be "Fly Me To You" girls.
I need to see reviews in order to determine whether or not I am making a good investment, given the high prices in the U.S. and the usual inability to meet providers in person before scheduling an appointment, except for the occasional Meet & Greet. (I do not need reviews when I go mongering overseas, where I can meet them in person before sealing the deal, and the prices are lower). I am not interested in ads, I am interested in reviews, and Switter would be useless to me without them. Have any appeared on Switter thus far? I expect that the character limitation would make the format too short for any meaningful reviews.
Without reviews, I am better off with sugar babies, and perhaps the occasional visit to my local cheapo brothels, where I can at least view a line-up before deciding to shell out a large chunk of change on an unknown quantity.
How does a client know I’m worth my asking price? I feel my reviews are a direct correlation I’m worth every penny. I’m on another site where I have one review so far from a lovely client that referred me there. Im starting to rebuild, but it’s disappointing and I’m one of a small minority of providers that really wants a review system of some sort on switter. I loved my 4 I had for the short time I was valid on this site and I believe they displayed my interest I have for this hobby.
Meanwhile I post ads and funny quips and the banter is fun, but I won’t lie, I miss being here as an actual person and growing provider really building my clientele. Either way we will all figure something out and adapt.
And no, I won’t drop my rates. 
~Arianna Ryan
On a webpage the interface seems very "busy". Multiple sections taking up all this space and yet the only section you are mostly interested in is your main feed. So you end up focusing on only 1/4 of the screen where the main section is. Not a very pleasant way to view a webpage.
I am trying Switter. It's going to evolve and time will tell whether it will be helpful.
I miss being able to see who's visiting and having reviews on people already in Chicago that I had not seen. Also, being whitelisted and having a long review history helped with verification.
"Life is change" we'll figure it out.
If I figure out cool Switter things that I have not seen here, I'll add them to the list here.
Have a good weekend everyone.
In the nature of the "Toot"storm platform, today's ads for ladies of interest will get to me.
But reviews require a more stable, database-like platform. No matter how the arguments there come out, SWitter will never be a good place for reviews. (Someone could put up a reviews database and link it to the SWitter name, but that's not what I mean.) .
The heated discussion there about reviews had a faction advocating bare-bones checkbox reviews -- Yes I saw her, she was on time, pictures accurate, she did what was promised, end of story.
That would serve one of the two purposes we clients use reviews for, but not the other.
#1 is for Screening. We want to know that the lady is not LE, not a scam, not a skank. This is similar to providers' screening, and most of them get that it is needed by clients.
#2 is for Choosing. Out of the many available (who pass Screening), which will I choose? And this is the thing the SWitter anti-review clique does not get. Because providers don't do Choosing, they can't imagine what is needed for us to do it. They are angrily incredulous that I would have the gall to ask for that. "Just see me to find out if you would want to choose me" is the most coherent reply I saw on this topic. Really?
And there's a strong whiff of providers hating reviews because they don't know how to earn good ones.
But it all doesn't matter because a tootstorm just will not serve as a usable review repository.
Switter is many things, but a safe place to shop, sell or purchase services it is not. I say that meaning in its current form, under the generally accepted norms that are likely to change. Before you flame me , think about what I will say.
One of the biggest hurdle in this profession is a two way street. For clients it is to prove that you are safe, sane and real. Not LE. For providers it is to prove you are real, sane, and deliver as promised and again not LE.
In its current form Switter does not address either of these hurdles. Part of the idea behind Switter was to allow a place for SW ( clients and Providers ) to exchange ideas. Those ideas range from buying and selling a service to simple chat. Since both the client and the provider are full members of Switter with absolutely no verification the credibility level is significantly low. In simple words, you can be anyone you want to be. Signing up and representing yourself is totally anonymous.
Here is a paraphrase of a conversation last week.
Him...I would like to meet you
Me..... Have you read my website
Him...Yes
Me...Can you please fill out my booking form along with your references
Him...I am on TER and have reviews and whitelist
Me...Thats great! I can start with that but will need for you to fill out my booking form
Him...Well all my references are gone this is bullshit.
Me...I can understand how you feel, simply send your references in your booking form and I will contact them.
Him... Great will do.
So what he sends me is very basic information and one reference. The one reference is a lady I have never heard of. That is not uncommon I don't know that many providers. She has no website, she has no email. I find one ad, on Switter in a profile that is in a city 1000 miles from him, It is one photo. It has ad words and says text me. I think myself, this is a BP or CL type ad. This is not the ad of someone who will give a whitelist.
I eMail him back and let him know we cannot meet, his one reference is simply no verifiable as a real reference.
He responds,"of course she isnt verifiable. Nobody is verifiable, I made the ad because i needed to give a reference to meet providers, why are you so picky and what is your fucking problem."
So you see my point. This guy went on internet. Scrape a picture somewhere. Create a profile on switter ( takes 2 minutes ) and now is able give his own references. He was pretty easy catch. I am sure he is not only one. I am sure others are smarter. My point is you can complain the review system all you like. However wrong the system is, its better nothing.
When i was young we were not rich, we may not had a lot, but we always had rice. Always had something to eat. When we would complain that all we had for eat for days was rice my father would say, " you never know how much you miss plain rice, until you have nothing to eat for week, now go help your mother dinner". I miss TER, the people and the safety net it helped provide.
Christine
I feel like going from a Ferrari to a Pinto on Switter but I’m thankful there is some place to go. I was 4 reviews away from being number one of the top 100. I had many reviewers on p411 that were not Ter members and all the others did not like writing reviews but I had all 10/10 and proud of them. I have very high rates and was very busy while using the income to support my teenage daughters. I just started in the Fall from the bottom then this happened. I think things will change and I am optimistic but very stressed as well. I’m debating daily on what to do and make a quick career decision or not. I loved this site and keep hoping...
I've posted listings on there and followed some providers I recognize from TER and Twitter, but honestly I cannot understand the platform enough to even tell if it's useful.
I'm totally confused by the whole thing. It is too wide for my laptop and I have to scroll left and right all the time. I can't make heads or tails out of how it works. I am not a big social media user anyway, but I've been active on Twitter for the last 6 months and that was not hard to learn, Mastodon/Switter seems REALLY confusing to me.
soooooo much easier!
I just kill my 2 blonde neurons
trying figure out........ switter...... smiling
is twitter any better?
thanks
CC
I simply search "Los Angeles", and there's hardly anything.
Try #LA or #LosAngeles and you'll get somewhat better results, although the pickings are pretty slim. Eros and p411 are probably the best places to find quality providers right now.
Slixa seems to have upped there game.