i will have to relay this theory to Brianna and get her opinion..
Posted By: PhilQ
I found this in porn and dating civies before I started seeing providers. If you watch porn and find an actress you think is really hot, you fast forward to the end of the clip and find that she does one whopping minute of bj, no anal, cum on belly and no other bells or whistles. That happens for all of her movies through most of her career. On the other hand, you find the ugly girl on the site or whatever does cum drinking, quadruple penetration gang bang, squirting with sparklers in her ass while whistling Dixie. Of course there are exceptions to this, like Eva Angelina as of late and prude honor students but generally speaking I find it to be true. It can also expressed on a graph with the top pointing left to right for better performance and the bottom pointing right to left for worse appearance.
I also find this true for strippers and providers. The hot women know know that they will attract clients based on their appearance and don't need to put effort into performance. The homely women know they need to offer dirty, skillful extras to attract and retain clients. Make sense to anyone else?
I found this in porn and dating civies before I started seeing providers. If you watch porn and find an actress you think is really hot, you fast forward to the end of the clip and find that she does one whopping minute of bj, no anal, cum on belly and no other bells or whistles. That happens for all of her movies through most of her career. On the other hand, you find the ugly girl on the site or whatever does cum drinking, quadruple penetration gang bang, squirting with sparklers in her ass while whistling Dixie. Of course there are exceptions to this, like Eva Angelina as of late and prude honor students but generally speaking I find it to be true. It can also expressed on a graph with the top pointing left to right for better performance and the bottom pointing right to left for worse appearance.
I also find this true for strippers and providers. The hot women know know that they will attract clients based on their appearance and don't need to put effort into performance. The homely women know they need to offer dirty, skillful extras to attract and retain clients. Make sense to anyone else?
what you're trying to suggest, and true more in the real world and porn than here. If you look at most of the highest rated escorts, you will find they are both very attractive and most offer cim with swallow, privates to privates massage, rimming, etc. I just took a peek at a list, and most ALL of them swallow and do privates to privates massage in addition to being hot as hell. I don't look as good as many providers, and I am still not doing that crap.
I will agree, there seems to be a pattern of the hottest girls automatically getting high performance scores, so there is some truth to that statement "hot girls have it easier." SO many wives are hot as hell, miss charity, and suzie homemaker, but they might not be rocking the guy's world in the sack...still, he married her. I find many times when you are super hot, you get more credit in other things when in reality there is nothing so exceptional about the performance.
Performance and looks have NO nexus. I used to think so and then I grew up through my 20s and had sex with LA 10a civvies and providers and I have been with a lot of HOT women that rocked my world in bed. CIM, cum anywhere, fuck everywhere and just crazy shit
i will have to relay this theory to Brianna and get her opinion..
Posted By: PhilQ
I found this in porn and dating civies before I started seeing providers. If you watch porn and find an actress you think is really hot, you fast forward to the end of the clip and find that she does one whopping minute of bj, no anal, cum on belly and no other bells or whistles. That happens for all of her movies through most of her career. On the other hand, you find the ugly girl on the site or whatever does cum drinking, quadruple penetration gang bang, squirting with sparklers in her ass while whistling Dixie. Of course there are exceptions to this, like Eva Angelina as of late and prude honor students but generally speaking I find it to be true. It can also expressed on a graph with the top pointing left to right for better performance and the bottom pointing right to left for worse appearance.
I also find this true for strippers and providers. The hot women know know that they will attract clients based on their appearance and don't need to put effort into performance. The homely women know they need to offer dirty, skillful extras to attract and retain clients. Make sense to anyone else?
I've had very attractive providers give GREAT service that would be classified as PSE. On the other hand, I've had not so attractive, but still good looking give me PSE type of service.
Same thing goes for the attractive and not so attractive ones giving me poor service.
All it boils down to is the ladies' self-esteem, personality and her experience in the business that goes a long way in the provider's performance. Those ladies, attractive or not are the ones that guys keep going back to.
As they say... 'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder'... then... 'Performance is in the eye of the beholder'.
Serpius
Posted By: PhilQ
I found this in porn and dating civies before I started seeing providers. If you watch porn and find an actress you think is really hot, you fast forward to the end of the clip and find that she does one whopping minute of bj, no anal, cum on belly and no other bells or whistles. That happens for all of her movies through most of her career. On the other hand, you find the ugly girl on the site or whatever does cum drinking, quadruple penetration gang bang, squirting with sparklers in her ass while whistling Dixie. Of course there are exceptions to this, like Eva Angelina as of late and prude honor students but generally speaking I find it to be true. It can also expressed on a graph with the top pointing left to right for better performance and the bottom pointing right to left for worse appearance.
I also find this true for strippers and providers. The hot women know know that they will attract clients based on their appearance and don't need to put effort into performance. The homely women know they need to offer dirty, skillful extras to attract and retain clients. Make sense to anyone else?
... especially in the porn world. You are either out of your mind or not watching the right pornstars. I could give a huge list of nasty gorgeous girls but won't.
OK First disclaimer: There are exceptions to every rule and blanket statements are rarely if ever true.
Second disclaimer: This is not a comment on civvy girls or providers.
Now as for your statement about porn stars and strippers, I think it is true for the most part (there are always exceptions, remember) A very hot looking stripper, will command good tips just because she is hot. The average or ugly strippers will have to do a lot more (bending or breaking club rules even) to get good tips.
Porn stars can be the same. A really hot looking girl will sell box covers, just because. Producers know this and will pay them just for looking pretty. The not so good looking ones will have to do a lot more in the "performance" side to make any money. The less attractive the lady, the raunchier scenes she will be expected to do.
I found this in porn and dating civies before I started seeing providers. If you watch porn and find an actress you think is really hot, you fast forward to the end of the clip and find that she does one whopping minute of bj, no anal, cum on belly and no other bells or whistles. That happens for all of her movies through most of her career. On the other hand, you find the ugly girl on the site or whatever does cum drinking, quadruple penetration gang bang, squirting with sparklers in her ass while whistling Dixie. Of course there are exceptions to this, like Eva Angelina as of late and prude honor students but generally speaking I find it to be true. It can also expressed on a graph with the top pointing left to right for better performance and the bottom pointing right to left for worse appearance.
I also find this true for strippers and providers. The hot women know know that they will attract clients based on their appearance and don't need to put effort into performance. The homely women know they need to offer dirty, skillful extras to attract and retain clients. Make sense to anyone else?
If she is in porn, and she is that hot, she doesn't have to do all the nasty, disgusting shit. Guys are happy just to see her and beat off just looking at her. It's so true. If you want to watch a dirty, hardcore porn flick, get ready for plain jane or a girl with zits all over her face strung out on God knows what.
Yes, it's definitely true in the stripper world and the provider world. If girls feel like they can't compete against us prettier girls, they will do every nasty thing in the book to get the guys to see them instead or get lap dances from them. It's cut-throat behavior. That's why I would only dance in clubs that will only hire pretty girls, so generally, you don't have that problem. In the provider world, I definitely get a better class of clientele than a lot of other girls. The clients aren't nearly as sexually demanding or demand risky behaviors from me as they do a lot of other girls, and they treat me very well. It's sad, because a lot of them are married to these plain to ugly, fat women. They are so nice and sweet, and I say, geez, why couldn't they marry me, and have her become a cum-guzzling escort instead. lmao
I hear you, London, about some attractive providers that will cim, do anal, etc. Unfortunately, they are pretty, but either stupid or very desperate. I never had to do it. Don't get me wrong. When I had a husband, I did swallow and experiment quite a bit. But, to do that with stranger after stranger after stranger - nah, not me. I couldn't see where any woman would want to do that - if they had a choice.
That is a pretty bold statement for any HOOKER to make about another woman in this business. Do I do it with anyone? Hell no, which is why I don't have solid 10s. Sorry, but I don't much care how much the rate is, I am not licking a guy's ass or rubbing my bare vagina on his raw dog. I won't call other women "stupid or desperate" for doing such though, because that's a bit weak to put them down to feel better about myself. I also won't sit here and refer to myself as "one of the pretty girls" as you've done more than once, because that screams insecure, and needing approval. Looks are also subjective, so no matter how hot one might think they are, another might find them butt ass ugly.
So, would you concede that just because you're a hooker banging random strangers regardless of what alphabet soup you offer, that you too "have to do it?" Why would you assume any other woman here "has to do" anything she does not want to? Most of us provide as a side job, not full time so it stands to reason we "don't have to do shit." If I "had to provide every day to make a living," I might spend more time on my knees vs being on TER all day.
I need a shower to wash off some of the pretense that rubbed off from your post.
The big swinging dick on the trading desk on Wall Street doesn't need to tell you that he make eight figures. You just know that his dick is massive from the way he walks.
Has to refer to herself as one of the "prettier" girls (this just in, no one here cares). Has to make herself feel better by accusing gals who offer certain services as "desperate."
So not attractive. I think I'd rather stick my thingy in some hot brie as opposed to spending some time with hott_brie.
I certainly hope you are as pretty as you say and the mere sight of you causes guys to just beat off instead of having to partake in any of the activities that repulse you.
I for one would hope that not all the ladies in the hobby are there as a last resort. I would never make a generalization like that. I am sure some even enjoy the acts you consider nasty and disgusting.
And assume other women who perform them are ugly, stupid or desparate. I have seen many top providers including Edrienne Cole, Chloe Carter, Adrienna Deville, Cara St James, Valarie International, etc. They gladly performed these 'disgusting' acts without me even asking. They happen to be beautiful, intelligent and in plenty of demand so your generalization is way off base in my humble opinion.
Appearance and Performance work together - whatever works for that girl is perfect for how she feels with her body and how she enjoys her company. I never have thought that I had to be the best looking girl or even the best performance; I just be ME. Maybe some do play on their looks but sometimes they just are not comfortable with certain aspects in the bedroom. No biggie. Everyone has their shtick and not everyone is a 10 - we women need to stick together and love who we are - physically and sexually. No one has the right to judge or decide who is good or bad - the fact is that we women should love ourselves no matter what. Namaste. xoxox Chloe ps. there is nothing 'disgusting' about how a woman pleases her self - whether she does 'this' or 'that' it is her prerogative....
Posted By: hott_brie
Posted By: PhilQ
I found this in porn and dating civies before I started seeing providers. If you watch porn and find an actress you think is really hot, you fast forward to the end of the clip and find that she does one whopping minute of bj, no anal, cum on belly and no other bells or whistles. That happens for all of her movies through most of her career. On the other hand, you find the ugly girl on the site or whatever does cum drinking, quadruple penetration gang bang, squirting with sparklers in her ass while whistling Dixie. Of course there are exceptions to this, like Eva Angelina as of late and prude honor students but generally speaking I find it to be true. It can also expressed on a graph with the top pointing left to right for better performance and the bottom pointing right to left for worse appearance.
I also find this true for strippers and providers. The hot women know know that they will attract clients based on their appearance and don't need to put effort into performance. The homely women know they need to offer dirty, skillful extras to attract and retain clients. Make sense to anyone else?
If she is in porn, and she is that hot, she doesn't have to do all the nasty, disgusting shit. Guys are happy just to see her and beat off just looking at her. It's so true. If you want to watch a dirty, hardcore porn flick, get ready for plain jane or a girl with zits all over her face strung out on God knows what.
Yes, it's definitely true in the stripper world and the provider world. If girls feel like they can't compete against us prettier girls, they will do every nasty thing in the book to get the guys to see them instead or get lap dances from them. It's cut-throat behavior. That's why I would only dance in clubs that will only hire pretty girls, so generally, you don't have that problem. In the provider world, I definitely get a better class of clientele than a lot of other girls. The clients aren't nearly as sexually demanding or demand risky behaviors from me as they do a lot of other girls, and they treat me very well. It's sad, because a lot of them are married to these plain to ugly, fat women. They are so nice and sweet, and I say, geez, why couldn't they marry me, and have her become a cum-guzzling escort instead. lmao
I hear you, London, about some attractive providers that will cim, do anal, etc. Unfortunately, they are pretty, but either stupid or very desperate. I never had to do it. Don't get me wrong. When I had a husband, I did swallow and experiment quite a bit. But, to do that with stranger after stranger after stranger - nah, not me. I couldn't see where any woman would want to do that - if they had a choice.
Presupposes that you are not a variable in the equation and that the provider's appearance is a constant. Instead, take the square root of the average of the squared difference between a numerical appearance score for the provider and an objective appearance score you assign to yourself. You may find that there is a direct relationship between performance and the standard deviation of provider-client attractiveness, rather than the simple inverse of provider appearance to performance.
I simply applied the formula for variance to calculate the standard deviation from an assigned set of specified values for appearance. Basic hooker math.
MY (8) guy house we lived in (yeah in a big house). Roommate had a good perspective. Said overweight girls that tend to not get a lot of Action. They'll do everything they can to please you.
The *REAL* DIMES---tend to Rush/Etc. Probably cause they can--and perceive you're not their league (despite what you look like).
Take a risk though---might not be as experienced as most. I had one girl literally try to suck my *ick *OFF MY BODY* ---said WHOA girl....that's now how it goes...treat it like licking an ice cream cone--take your time...Look me in the eyes while doing in....we're in now rush..as an act of kindness--I'll let you know when I'm about t Pop--up to you if you how you act next.
His theory was you learn something new every girl you're with (true)---and don't waste the chance on a girl that *ONLY* wants to PLEASE YOU. I've had my Dimes--back in college---(even Rolling)---like a dead fish. (and to quote Eddy Murphy--back then I could "bust diamonds with it)--unless PSE--about as boring as it gets.
MAN, I miss the days of AOL---was like shooting fish in a barrel--all across the board--....
MY (8) guy house we lived in (yeah in a big house). Roommate had a good perspective. Said overweight girls that tend to not get a lot of Action. They'll do everything they can to please you.
The *REAL* DIMES---tend to Rush/Etc. Probably cause they can--and perceive you're not their league (despite what you look like).
Take a risk though---might not be as experienced as most. I had one girl literally try to suck my *ick *OFF MY BODY* ---said WHOA girl....that's now how it goes...treat it like licking an ice cream cone--take your time...Look me in the eyes while doing in....we're in now rush..as an act of kindness--I'll let you know when I'm about t Pop--up to you if you how you act next.
His theory was you learn something new every girl you're with (true)---and don't waste the chance on a girl that *ONLY* wants to PLEASE YOU. I've had my Dimes--back in college---(even Rolling)---like a dead fish. (and to quote Eddy Murphy--back then I could "bust diamonds with it)--unless PSE--about as boring as it gets.
MAN, I miss the days of AOL---was like shooting fish in a barrel--all across the board--....
An attractive woman can be attractive because of what she was born with or because of what she does with what she has. The more attractive a man is, the more he finds attractive women are nicer to him than the plain or ugly ones are. It makes more sense to me that a woman is going to give good service if she also optimizes her physical appearance because both take effort.
You might be right, though, that there are ladies who compensate for the looks they just can't attain through going the extra mile on service(s). What they have for personalities, though, I have no idea.
Of course there are exceptions to this, like Eva Angelina as of late and prude honor students but generally speaking I find it to be true.
I did originally post the above for all the women saying "I'm hot but I go the extra."
I realize clients' attractiveness factors into things but shouldn't. Attractive men can get crazy sex with civvies. Shouldn't seeing an escort for service get you what you want if you aren't cranky and nasty and tip well? It should be a different playing field than the civilian world where a guy who sets aside a few bucks can get a good lay by a hot girl.
As a second illustration, when I go to a strip club, the bartenders are invariably hotter than the dancers. Because they are hotter, they can do a "regular job" with whatever difficulties may come with bartending. The slightly less attractive range to just there to fill the stage range girls are the ones busting their ass on the pole and champagne room.
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