TER General Board

The Ugly Truth
markstamper23 1 Reviews 1173 reads
posted
1 / 29

So, I've been 'stood up' by a provider twice this week. Twice she leads me all the way out to her incall location, then suddenly stops answering my calls and texts. Both times the next day when I get hold of her she gave vs excuses (first time it was a car accident causing serious injuries; second time, just two days later, apparently by a miracle her severe injuries were healed as she didn't recognize me from the first time, and this time her excuse was she 'fell asleep' right after telling me the motel name). And I am enormously frustrated because 1) I can't review her since I never actually saw her, and I don't feel sshe should be able to jerk me around with impunity and 2) because she was actually reviewed and moderately well-reviewed at that, so I can't blame it on my unscrupulousness (though it was my mistake to give her a second chance; will definitely not give any more of those).

I guess my question is, how common is this, especially among well-reviewed providers? And what's the point? Do some providers just get disgruntled and decide to get their rocks off by setting up appointments when they have no intention of delivering?  

I think I'm on the verge of quitting altogether. Even the ones I've seen who do show up (still talking well-reviewed too) are more often than not late, sometimes 1-2 hours. So if reviews can't weed out no-shows or providers with no sense of time, what can? I'm always on time, so do I just tell them over the phone "if you don't answer within 15 minutes of my arrival, forget itf" (or for outcalls, 'if you're more than 20 minutes late, just turn back and go home because I won't even let you in')? I've tried to be nice to and patient with the girls I've seen so far, which, as with non-providers, seems to be the cue for 'ok to treat like shit.' One girl I'd seen before (again, decently reviewed here), i'd tipped very well, was nice to, third time I saw her she shows up at her own incall location over an hour late, late at night, after practically begging me over the phone not to reschedule for tomorrow which I offer to do, then calls off in mid-session saying she's too tired and wants to sleep (no refund for me of course); and has the gall to text me next morning saying 'wanna come by and try again?'  

All I can say is, I'm beginning to understand why some guys are total assholes in this thing. It seems like the only way it makes sense to be. In retrospect I see this is more of a rant than a question, but oh well.

89Springer 1106 reads
posted
2 / 29

I think you're the only person on this forum with worse luck than me.

The only providers who have been punctual with me are ones with ok reviews and scores in the 8's. The ones with the 9 and 10 ratings and rave reviews have been late, have rescheduled me, and have twice not followed through on scheduled appointments. I don't mean they were NCNS,  just that they didn't respond when I called and/or emailed to confirm the day before.

I don't know what the answer is

mrfisher 111 Reviews 911 reads
posted
3 / 29

You knew she had to be lying as she could not be scheduling again if she had such severe injuries.

Yes, this is part of the hobby I'm afraid.  It happens to me now and then, but as I tend to stick to gals who I see regularly, it does not affect me as much.

By the way, while you can not review these gals, there is nothing to keep you from calling them out on your local board and naming names and tell what happened so that other will hopefully avoid the same pit fall.

AnneRoyall 865 reads
posted
4 / 29

The younger ones who are often less professional.  There is a reason the older ones may have lower appearance scores, but they have loyal followings.

markstamper23 1 Reviews 911 reads
posted
5 / 29

I wasn't aware of what the policy was on naming providers in a negative light in discussion boards, but since you assure me it's ok, her name is Vanilla(/Daniella/something else) of Columbus.

Yes, I did make the mistake of giving a provider the benefit of the doubt. Believe me, I won't make that mistake again.

markstamper23 1 Reviews 830 reads
posted
6 / 29

They were indeed younger (20s) which I guess makes sense. I'm pretty young and generally I habitually "date" within my age group, perhaps a policy I should be reconsidering though.

MasterZen 33 Reviews 1040 reads
posted
7 / 29
MasterZen 33 Reviews 899 reads
posted
8 / 29
markstamper23 1 Reviews 178 reads
posted
9 / 29

And why not?

Posted By: I_Am_Legend
 
   
Posted By: markstamper23
I wasn't aware of what the policy was on naming providers in a negative light in discussion boards, but since you assure me it's ok, her name is Vanilla(/Daniella/something else) of Columbus.  
     
  Yes, I did make the mistake of giving a provider the benefit of the doubt. Believe me, I won't make that mistake again.

markstamper23 1 Reviews 1045 reads
posted
10 / 29

Well when 3/4 can't be remotely on time, and it seems to apply as much to high end as low end, maybe it's par for the course here. But I'll probably withhold my pity whenever I hear their sob stories about the profession, because with the absence of mind and dearth organizational skills the ones I've seen have, the highest they'd get in life even in the best of circumstances would've been being a Walmart greeter.

Posted By: MasterZen
we bring the pain upon ourselves. Sheesh!

MasterZen 33 Reviews 958 reads
posted
11 / 29

not stay and actually become an asshole.  :D

My experience isn't anywhere near 3/4. More like less than 5%. I don't know why there is such a discrepancy.  

BTW, being a HDH is probably a few steps above being a Walmart greeter - assuming money talks and bullshit walks

markstamper23 1 Reviews 784 reads
posted
12 / 29

I am considering quitting, but also of course considering staying and becoming an asshole just out of spite as a close second.

As for the discrepancy, do you always see providers at the same time of day? If so may I suggest that your watch is broken.

And I have no idea what HDH stands for, but if what you say is true, then I am correct to save my pity for the Walmart greeters and providers should be thankful for the career opportunities they have.
Posted By: MasterZen
not stay and actually become an asshole.  :D  
   
 My experience isn't anywhere near 3/4. More like less than 5%. I don't know why there is such a discrepancy.  
   
 BTW, being a HDH is probably a few steps above being a Walmart greeter - assuming money talks and bullshit walks.  
   
 

HookerWithAHeartOfTinFoil 848 reads
posted
13 / 29

Furthermore, she lists her age as 19.

And her ads contain numerous selfies at the Motel 6.

One ad says, and I quote, "ARRIVE IN 20 MINUTES 15 ROSES will be taken OFF OF YOUR DONATION."  

 
Your experience was less than stellar, you say? I am SHOCKED, SIMPLY SHOCKED!

Instead of trotting out that tired old canard that all providers are dim witted and lacking in any meaningful lifeskills other than the innate ability to count money while passively accepting dicks into their holes... perhaps instead you should be turning those smug, self-righteous eyes towards the nearest mirror and, from here on out, employ some deductive reasoning/reading comprehension skills of your own.

Or just continue to go around randomly insulting all providers and Walmart employees, with impunity, in an attempt to make yourself feel big.  Whatever works.  
Posted By: markstamper23
Well when 3/4 can't be remotely on time, and it seems to apply as much to high end as low end, maybe it's par for the course here. But I'll probably withhold my pity whenever I hear their sob stories about the profession, because with the absence of mind and dearth organizational skills the ones I've seen have, the highest they'd get in life even in the best of circumstances would've been being a Walmart greeter.


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Fridays117 27 Reviews 905 reads
posted
14 / 29

Into Almost every appointment.  While I have had some punctual providers, the vast majority make you wait.  I've only had one refuse to answer my calls after getting directions to her incall and sitting in the parking lot call for the room number and get absolutely no response.  after an hour of waiting/ trying I resorted to BP for the "quick fix" and lo and behold that second provider was in the same location and I was already at the incall!!  So I got her room number and had my fun anyway, but not the way I expected.  being a BP gal she was a wham bam thank you ma'am sort with no GFE and wasn't really my type anyway, but hey, any port in a storm as they say.  Anyway, as I am walking out I see the gal I had originally booked kissing a guy goodbye at her door three doors down.  She had double booked and I guess the guy got there first.  When he left I knocked on her door and asked what the deal was.  she apologized and said... "Well, we're both here, let's go now."  my reply was "Nope, I just dumped two loads down the hall and triple tipped her with the money you could have gotten." And walked out. she calls out after me to call her tomorrow but I ignored it and headed home.  It burned me that she just was so awful to a client like that as to ignore a booking that had not only be made 72 hours ahead, but confirmed and given the address to and known I was on my way!

keystonekid 114 Reviews 796 reads
posted
15 / 29

either looking in the wrong place or not reading reviews carefully.

Fridays117 27 Reviews 911 reads
posted
16 / 29

Once this happens in 20+ years of seeing providers and my process needs improvement?  That's like saying no one should ever work in Manhattan because 13 years ago somebody destroyed two buildings.  As for the lateness thing, I don't think it's just providers, most women are habitually late IMHO.

cocktail-party 1014 reads
posted
17 / 29

The fact is that this is not a career, just a route to quick money for most providers. They can feel burned out but need the money so they book. It can take a lot of effort to put on a good show, so sometimes when the appointment time comes, they just decide to pass rather than grit their teeth through it. Or, one of their favorites came a-calling and you just got bumped. I'm not saying it's right, it's just how it is (of course it sucks getting the shit end of the stick!). You win some, you lose some.  

You just have to figure out the limits of your patience and stay within them. If your play schedule is so tight that you can't handle a delay or reschedule of 30 minutes/hour/a day/whatever, then just say "hey, these are my parameters. If I don't hear from you in 10 minutes then I'm gonna jerk off and go home and move on to the next honey." P4P is not worth losing your mind.

2labman 26 Reviews 797 reads
posted
18 / 29

If the lady is well-reviewed on TER, I've had a very low rate of no-shows, as long as our correspondence has been very clear.  I usually try to book about two weeks out (other than my regular) because I enjoy the anticipation and the ritual of getting prepared.

What drives me BSC is when I'm ten minutes early and have enough self control not to call her, but wait until a couple minutes before the hour.  Then she says "Just ten minutes"  and 15 minutes later "Five minutes" and then after 20 minutes after the annointed time, "Come on up, Room xxx".  It's just 20 minutes, and she was communicating, but it still makes me crazy, and not in a good way.  All I can visualize as I sit in my car is the guy before me wiping off his dick and tossing on his pants while she is trying not to look like she just got laid and is doing her quick bathroom chores trying to get his "deposit" out of her to look "fresh".  It cheapens the experience for me when I'm made to wait like that.  I very much appreciate it when a lady is on time and buzzes me up on time.  It gives me the impression that she values my time (and thus me), is not running a congo line of clients through today and starts things off on the right foot.  Maybe it's just me.

bonordonor 710 reads
posted
20 / 29

if it's closed, I feel really good about it. If it's open, I'm pretty sure someone has been in the flower garden fairly recently. lmao

1192967 45 Reviews 781 reads
posted
21 / 29

...it's very common. When considering my own experience it's not common at all. However I need to let you know my first few years of seeing escorts I used an agency exclusively. There were 2 cancellations with plenty of notice during that time but no other late, or no show issues. In the last few years I have seen mostly independents and have had no cases of very late or no shows. I have had a few cancellations but had plenty of notice so I could make other arrangements and a couple of times was asked if a reschedule was possible and did reschedule. I'm lucky I guess but I do check things out thoroughly before deciding to see a particular provider.

Sheermagnetism 9 Reviews 1064 reads
posted
22 / 29

The rate the more punctual they have been, at least in my case. Low rate (beliw 500) usually book several a day so more chances they accumulate delays.

89Springer 817 reads
posted
23 / 29

The rate for the reputable providers in the city I visit is $300 to $350. $400 to $450 are for what are generally regarded as the best. But even they can be unreliable.

earthshined 934 reads
posted
24 / 29

is not enough to quit the hobby. quit trying with her, yes. Move on and don't look back.

russbbj 89 Reviews 835 reads
posted
25 / 29

Fuck me over twice, shame on me for giving you the opportunity to do it a second time. And then wow, factor in her ad and it's tell-tale man.  

A lady being less than punctual is very common place. I've had one, count em, one lady arrive early. And, she texted me to ask if it was ok to come up early. I said of course. I would say close to 50% of the ladies I've seen have been late, or not ready to see me at the designated time, but I'm talking 10-15 minutes and of course we spent the full designated time together. Slightly late doesn't bother me, ladies are notorious for taking a long time to get ready, and when she looks beautiful and sexy I'm ok with that.

No shows is a completely different story, I had that happen once, and I never gave her the chance to stand me up again. There are simply too many wonderful women to choose from to let some woman do that to me. I can completely understand that life happens, but she should have the decency to call me and let me know, I shouldn't have to chase her down.

I am not one to criticize someone's tastes, but honestly I think she may have done you a favor by standing you up. Something about her says to me that I wouldn't jump through any hoops to see her.

hbyist+truth=;( 964 reads
posted
26 / 29

Young,  and very dumb. I am sure he won't mind being insulted as he feels okay doing it.

ROGM 813 reads
posted
27 / 29

Posted By: cocktail-party
The fact is that this is not a career, just a route to quick money for most providers.
 
You'd be surprised how many Girls make this a Career. Sure some do this line of Work for a while then get out. But alot of them, well the ones I know have been doing this well over 10 years. Most lkely my current Gal will probably be doing this for quite a while into the future.

londonheather 1018 reads
posted
29 / 29

Wow that is too long to read

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