Is older than ter, I think. It's a monger-oriented site. There are a lot of mongers specifically looking for bb. Many look for creampies. A lot of them post pics too.
Here's my question, if you were to abstract and put yourself as an observer, why do you think his post should be taken down? How do we know he's lying and you're not? We don't.
It's a his word VS your word situation. And on monger-oriented sites like that, providers do not have the tiebreaker. It's a forum for consumers, so to speak. I think you're free to go on the forum and post a post how you never provided such service, as to let others know they won't be getting it from you. Trying to get the post removed is not a good strategy,as it would be employed by providers to remove any posts they don't potentially like. Good luck.
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I am not sure if you are familiar with a site called USAGuide . I had never heard of it. Until one of my most regular clients texted me quite upset what he read about me on on a thread. A person had asked a question if anyone had seen me . Someone responded saying I provided bbfs WHICH I DO NOT.
I contacted the moderator and he was rude in his email basically saying i could post a disclaimer but that he would not take the thread down. This site will take your post down if you use too many Capital letters but not if you slander someone. My first response he said was too argumentative I had to jump through hoops to get my disclaimer up but not him with his lie. Is anyone familiar with this site. I am afraid that this post will put me at risk physically from people who might expect more than i am willing to provide
I pride myself on providing a great encounter just read my many excellent reviews but i do not offer BBFS ever! Any thoughts on what i should do. I am beside myself
thank you
adeline xoxo
But the moderators there are hard ass. They don't put up with much shit. Shit that flys here won't pass the smell test there.
I doubt that the post you're referring to will EVER be taken down.
Post the disclaimer and hope for the best and just ignore the gawdy calls....Good Luck
I wouldn't be surprised if this post here is removed soon but in the hopes it remains.... please email me.
I've had quite a bit of experience with that site. 
it attracts mostly low-end mongers. BBFS is one of the specialties there and the members are obsessed with it. Its a lose-lose for providers. If you give a guy BBFS and wanted to stay UTR, forget it. You will be outed so fast it will make your head spin. If you refuse BBFS, many posters will put up a retaliatory post saying they received it, simply because you refused their request. This happens almost weekly on the LA board, but most of the girls give up after the management push back like you described, so you don't hear about a lot of it until another poster said he saw the same girl and she DOES NOT offer BBFS. Of course, then the first guy with the fake BBFS claim says its YMMV. There have been many times when providers have tried to correct the record and the censorship policies by management requires a Herculean effort by the provider to get it corrected. The guy that runs the boards is a complete asshole.
It’s worse than that. The guys on there try to flig their shit on other boards. BB is out there now. I get it. But why do they destroy a good thing by posting it? I’ve reach a level of intamecy with a few ladies, but never have I betrayed that trust. I hate the locker room jock slapping.
Excuse me? BB is a good thing? Are you serious? Yikes!
You said, "BB is out there now. I get it. But why do they destroy a good by posting it." A good thing? really?
Is that there has always been BBFS between SOME providers and SOME of their customers, but it was always UTR and a taboo subject to discuss on boards like this. However, a few years ago, it has become the norm for a significant number, but still a clear minority, of providers to advertise bareback sex as available on their regular menu, often at an upcharge. Look for acronyms BBFS or PSE in the ads. So yes, many customers consider BBFS between themselves and a long-term regular who does NOT advertise BBFS or have it on her regular menu an acceptable risk. Risk tolerance is a personal choice, so each monger has to decide what level of risk he/she can live with. I'm not judging for or against, because I understand both sides of the question, just providing info.
Of course it is. One of the best known KGirl agencies in Vegas openly offers bbfs for most if not all of its ladies. It's even discussed in many of their ladies' reviews on this site. Not saying it's a good thing (it's not), but it's definitely out there.
Similar experience in Vegas. The forums are rife with bbfs and streetwalker topics. I don't find it helpful. If anything I feel disinclined to see ladies who are discussed/reviewed on that site. Some of the most prominent forum contributors also occasionally post on TER under the same or similar screen name about Vegas KGirls, but I'm inclined not to trust their reviews or see the agencies or ladies they review. I don't see them in our forums.
Most of Vegas kgirl info on those forums, just as on LA forums, is pretty accurate (shills and advertisers aside, of course)
I would even say the information on there is more accurate than from many posters on here, who tend to protect the providers as opposed to fellow mongers.
and playing the same part of your record over and over. You should have it checked out. Lol
My needle is working just fine. If it struck your nerve, not really my problem.
just getting boring hearing the same old rant. You must think the people here are too stupid to remember you already said this 50 times.
I'm pretty sure this was my first time directly comparing posts on the "std board" and on here.
Since I have no horse in the "race" and I started actively reading/posting on both boards at around the same time, I thought I'd compare and contrast the two forums from "accurate info about girls" point of view (and obviously from a consumer's point view)
Your needle comment makes little sense here.
It's also pretty ironic, considering in how much redundant back and forth you engage with bp damn nearly every day.
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you "don't have a horse in the race" when your "mission" here from day one has been to convince people that YOU look out for fellow mongers while the majority of mongers here take the "side" of the providers or orgs over their fellow mongers. Its a false narrative to claim there are "two sides." In reality, most of the time, the interests of your two "sides" are the same. Reviews drive business to the ladies. Writing a review is going to help the lady and at the same time shows mongers what a session with a particular lady is going to be like, so he will make an informed decision about seeing her. Whole many reviews have scant details, they may still have some substantive info that can corroborate statements made in more comprehensive reviews. Its a win-win. In YOUR world, ONE side is the winner and the other is the loser. News flash . . . . You CAN have it both ways. The same thing applies to discussion board commentary. TER is the grande dame of review sites. Everything else is a wannabe by comparison.
Before you come here with spurious conclusions from a few months as a TER member, you should read back for several years and you will see that most of the mongers here don't have a problem disagreeing with a provider POV if they think she is out to lunch, so its historically not like you think it is.
You wrote all that, not even understanding the race I was talking about was ter board VS "std board". I am able to compare and contrast the situations on both boards and I have little reason to say one or other site is "better".
As far as topic on hand, it's easy. Just look at yelp. A consumer writes a review in which he claims restaurant served him pork chops. The restaurant sees this and says we don't serve porkchops,remove this review. Yelp says lol no, you have a chance to write rebuttal and both sides can be heard. A restaurant does not have the power to remove any review they want. And rightfully so.
Regarding your comments, my mission was never to convince anyone about anything. It was about pointing out fake reviews, false advertisements, deceptive practices and looking out for fellow mongers. Nothing more, nothing less. Not my fault someone like you wanted to argue fake reviews by orgs don't exist here. We all know how that ended up, lol.
90% of the KGirl info on that site focuses on the ladies at CLL which specializes in bbfs and doesn’t interest me. Much less on VAC, GFLV, or Little Tokyo. Personally I don’t find those reviews dependable based upon the way they’re written. Just my $0.02. I’m happy that they are of benefit to you.
You won't see a lady who is simply "discussed" in the BBFS forum when nobody said she did BBFS? Do you also believe some random guy there when he "reviewed" a lady as allowing BBFS?
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I feel sorry for ladies like Adeline if that's the case.
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One of the reasons to lie about getting BBFS is to have more BBFS hounds coming to pressure a lady while driving away her safe clients. The hope is that she will succumb when she loses too many businesses or when she is battered down by too many BBFS demands. This was why I advised Adeline to take a stronger stance if she feels the need.
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As of now, Adeline's disclaimer should be enough. Kudos to Adeline for doing that. Those guys will have to think twice if they knew a provider is reading that forum. There are two other guys confirming Adeline is NOT BBFS. Other guys can still try to lie about Adeline but that would be pointless now.
I don’t know Adeline, but I believe her. The ladies discussed in the Vegas bareback and Kgirl threads on that other site openly advertise PSE/bbfs. Also, the agency in question seems to be pretty high volume. So as to them I choose not to partake. I made no reference to Adeline or ladies like her who are falsely accused of offering bbfs.
I didn't know you meant ladies who openly advertise PSE/BBFS.
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I have seen one too many mongers believing in BBFS guys. One even asked on that site if anyone had BBFS with his regular so he would stop seeing her. I think of those mongers the same way as those who think "Guilty until Proven Innocent". It's as if they never heard of the phrase "Talk is cheap".
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BBFS seekers need result. When one is not a BBFS seeker one cannot truly know about the results.
I'm not going to search for or look at the site just yet, but ... Do they have copies of your ads from other sites? With your pics?
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Search both General AND Newbie for "Takedown Notice" or "DMCA Takedown Notice" (and maybe "Take Down Notice"?). If the criteria are there, you can do everything yourself w/o having to hire a lawyer. If they do not comply to a legit Notice, their ISP will totally cut them off from the internet.
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As I recall, your photos do not need to show "copyright" on them; they do not need to be officially copyrighted with the US copyright office; but you have to be able to prove that they are "you." That's another reason for Providers to watermark their photos. "Adeline Dare" watermarked across your butt pretty much proves the photos are YOURS!
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See also Newbie and General threads on "watermarking." Do NOT put the watermark across your butt. A little lower or a little higher is preferred. 
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Good luck!
I am not sure if you are familiar with a site called USAGuide . I had never heard of it. Until one of my most regular clients texted me quite upset what he read about me on on a thread. A person had asked a question if anyone had seen me . Someone responded saying I provided bbfs WHICH I DO NOT.
I contacted the moderator and he was rude in his email basically saying i could post a disclaimer but that he would not take the thread down. This site will take your post down if you use too many Capital letters but not if you slander someone. My first response he said was too argumentative I had to jump through hoops to get my disclaimer up but not him with his lie. Is anyone familiar with this site. I am afraid that this post will put me at risk physically from people who might expect more than i am willing to provide
I pride myself on providing a great encounter just read my many excellent reviews but i do not offer BBFS ever! Any thoughts on what i should do. I am beside myself
Thanks for sharing that!
xoxo
KT
She’s asking about a review that mentions BB, not stolen pics.
IF they have any of her personal, proprietary data (photos; "copyrighted" text taken from her website ads; etc.), she can order that the proprietary info be taken down. The website might tell her to take a flying leap, but ISPs take DMCA seriously and shut them down if they do not comply.
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If any TER reviews have been copied there, TER can step in, too. If, after all that, the site wants to keep a disembodied review, they can still do so. ... Although, she might be able to sue them for libel but that will be much more costly (time, money, public disclosure of court documents) than a DMCA Takedown Notice.
She’s asking about a review that mentions BB, not stolen pics.
As for TER stepping in on stolen reviews doubt that it will happen
Another site has many of mine from here using this handle and three others that are not mine using this handle which I could not get on that site. To my knowledge they never made an effort to get rid of any of the “scraped” reviews from here .
To chase down copied reviews. One person, stole my TER handle and quite a few of my reviews and posted them. On top of that this person created other reviews using my handle...I bitched but nothing ever came of it so it is what it is,
And I don't see where legally if TER can do anything.
This is what i emailed him today:
I just read your initial email again and I did realize that you would allow a false post to remain. You would not allow my initial response to this person’s lie because it was too argumentative but you are okay with him posting a lie that could put me at risk. How is that fair? I see that you will delete a post that has all capital letters but you are allowing a person to post falsehoods about me. You could ask him to provide details of where we met. That is how ter handles such issues.
You will allow fake reviews and slanderous remarks to protect your integrity? Really. i am now going to have to fight off new clients who will read that lie and think it is okay to try to make me behave in an unsafe manner.
Without women providers your site would not exist it would have been nice if you would try to protect or at least provide a minimum standard of what people can post about the women that give your site purpose. I find it ridiculously absurd that you would say I am harassing him. He posted on a public forum lies about me that are dangerous. I emailed him privately and I am harassing him. His response was "see you soon" mocking me.”
In the Trump era I guess the bullies always win.
I would like to ask you again to reconsider and take his post down. It puts me at risk physically.
thank you for your assistance in this matter
Adeline Dare
His response:
I appended your comments to the post as I told you I would. No words on this forum puts you physically at risk. I know that you are accustomed to getting whatever you wish by using that phrase but it is not true and we both know it. If a post is written entirely in caps that is an objective criterion, Judging the veracity of a report on a forum like our is a subjective decision, you say it's a lie, he says it's not which is why I appended your remarks to the post.
By resorting to name calling you have become the bully. I will not respond to you again.
That guy is not even a senior member and has only 16 posts. The hard core guys on that site would not be too quick to believe him. They will believe him even less now with your disclaimer on his post. They would be wasting their money and time if they are that gullible. Your regular client is too gullible.
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Admin won't take that post down no matter what you say. Having your disclaimer is enough to discredit that guy. You can also ask your regular clients to confirm you always use cover to make your case stronger.
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You can try to take a stronger stance. State on your ad that you always use cover and that you will blacklist people for even asking for it. You can also use #nobbfs on Switter.
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Best of luck and stay strong. Some people will always have doubt in their head. You can't do anything about that.
Fortunately, I haven't had anyone claiming I do BBFS on that site (or to my knowledge, anywhere else) but there have been multiple inaccuracies about me posted there. However, what's generally said about me there is GPS, which I personally find hilarious.
A2 (owner/moderator) will not allow any notes, edits or corrections from me at all so I see it as a positive that he DID add your disclaimer to the original "report". Those who MUST have that will be unlikely to risk their $ on any less than a sure thing. The big posters of that board are notoriously cheap, so that actually works to your benefit in this case.
Honestly..... I believe that site does not represent a majority of the potential clientele for your geographic location so please, try to shake if off as best you can. Concentrate on establishing and developing a strong presence on social media and sites which actually WANT provider-voices, which that site does not.
I wish you the best of luck and please reach out to me anytime!!
Raise you rate 50 dollars and you'll eliminate 99% of people on that board. Heck, I'm guessing you're out of the range of most of the guys on that board. They're all about the $20 BJ and $80 BBFS, so you know what kind of girls they are seeing. And to be honest, if they are playing in that world, you don't want them as clients.
I would ask, "So, where did you hear about me" and if they USAXXXXguide, then ghost them.
Obviously you have at least one client who follows the site. He likely posts there too. His rebuttal of supposed bbfs from you will be stronger than yours.
Unfortunately, otherwise, you can't unring the bell.
Btw, you're f'ing hot. 🤩
And let it run its course. Bad stuff happens here., occasionally. Don’t give the fire any oxygen, and it will extinguish itself. I know it tuff to say that’s not me, but your real clients know who you are, and you don’t want the others anyway.
Is older than ter, I think. It's a monger-oriented site. There are a lot of mongers specifically looking for bb. Many look for creampies. A lot of them post pics too.
Here's my question, if you were to abstract and put yourself as an observer, why do you think his post should be taken down? How do we know he's lying and you're not? We don't.
It's a his word VS your word situation. And on monger-oriented sites like that, providers do not have the tiebreaker. It's a forum for consumers, so to speak. I think you're free to go on the forum and post a post how you never provided such service, as to let others know they won't be getting it from you. Trying to get the post removed is not a good strategy,as it would be employed by providers to remove any posts they don't potentially like.
Good luck.
Actually they don't let you respond to posts so if they are letting her post a disclaimer on the site she is dang lucky. Over the years I have known a few gals who were VERY misrepresented by that site and when they tried to register and reply were banned. There is no recourse as far as I know.
And here is the thing - she is not trying to get a bad review pulled. She is not trying to get report of her being dangerous / rip off pulled. She is trying to get what is probably a fantasy review - cause that site is full of them - pulled because it is inaccurate. Because things like that can be dangerous for a provider. Every bare backing client will hit her up and some won't be so happy once he is there and finds out it's not available.
One time a provider I knew decided to stop seeing a client of hers. He was not happy. He responded by writing a review that said he choked her and slapped her face and she loved it. The rougher the better. She didn't know about the review at first and had some very bad sessions. It was a nightmare
So THAT'S why when it comes down to services provided, you always believe the provider when it comes to this.
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You used anecdotal evidence to say that one must ALWAYS trust the provider in these situations? Huh ?
It doesn't work like that.
Do customers lie ? Sure, they do.
Do providers lie ? You bet they do.
Blindly ALWAYS trusting a provider in such situations, you either have to take customers for idiots or gullible patsies. Or both.
Again, one cannot prove inaccuracy or accuracy, it's just a his vs her word. And if you start removing any review on the grounds of services offered being inaccurate, you can easily censor any real review of extras a provider does not wish to disclose, even though she provides them.
It really sucks for providers who get inaccurate shit said about them, true. Just like it sucks for customers who get inaccurate shit said about them by providers too.
I dont know about usasg's history, so I cant comment about providers' accounts being banned due to disputes, but given the fact that they didnt ban the op and in fact marked the post in question as disputed, is probably an indication that they did the right thing this time.
Here's a thing about services - there are many providers who want to have cake and eat it too. They don't want to appear like they're giving services that might not put them in favorable light (some sex worker sites are really brutal against any mention of BBFS ) either among colleagues or customers, yet they want to make money.
Since you brought up some anecdotal evidence, here is some anecdotal evidence from me - there are streetwalkers in Tijuana who will refuse to negotiate for a BBBJ in front of other girls.
When you pull a girl apart from the group so the others cant hear you, she will most likely easily agree to a BBBJ as long as the other girls don't hear her do it.
This is just an easy example of how it's not the service some girls are afraid of, it's the image or reputation that comes with the said service that they don't want to get.
So, what I'm trying to say is that for some providers, it's not the fact that theyre engaging in such services, but rather global knowledge of others that they do, is the issue. And that isn't really an 'accuracy' issue, on the contrary it's about withholding information.
When it comes to services the provider is the final word. It may be true the client isn't lying, but all sessions are a your milage may very situation. So his word on what she offers may be inaccurate even if honest. And let's be honest fake reviews are hardly rare. Yes, providers do lie, but if she says a service is of the table, you best believe her on it or you will more often then not be disappointed. The provider sets her menu not her clients.
In addition to the whole YMMV as the provider will decide if they will offer the same to all comers is the whole question of confidentiality of non-public information. If the provider does not want certain services she provides to be public then people should keep their mouth shut.
The only exceptions are activities that actually create a risk to others -- BBFS seems to fit in that but is not a cut and dry case either, nor am I saying only that would be an exception.
This is a world where discretion and judgement are probably a bit more important to most than many other areas of their lives.
As for BBFS, I just assume everyone is bare backing someone. It may not be in this world but a SO or a friends with benefits or maybe other clients/providers. And those people come ld be bare backing others. In fact if a client or provider in bare backing you in this game they are bare backing others, that are also bare backing others.
Good news is condoms (both male and female) are extremely effective in reducing transmission of most sexually transmitted diseases. Since this is the case the information is less important. I think even BBFS should be kept quiet if offered on a YMMV.
I don't really get your point. I agree that provider has the right to dispute a post on the forum as not accurate. That's what the op did and in this case, the said forum did the right thing.
We established that both customers and providers can and do lie. It should go without saying that setting unrealistic expectations relying on someone's reports while provider doesnt advertise such services, is not a good thing for customers.
However, giving provider the power to remove a post at a whim, not only is not wise logic-wise, it also creates a dangerous precedent. As a provider, you have to live with inaccurate reports and 'haters', as long as you can post a rebuttal and make it known to others they wont be getting these services.
if anyone does contact you just ask first from what site they used. if that one, make clear upfront that the guy will have a great time and you are very pampering BUT obviously the guy who posted BBFS confused you with another girl he must have seen. less aggressive than just blurting out i dont do .. XYZ
then again you can say you do ......slapping someone upside his head with your bareback hand !!
Sorry to hear that. As others have already stated, that particular board attracts a rather specific type of clientele. I know it’s easy to say this as I’m not in your shoes, but I would frankly just ignore it. As the saying goes..”never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience...” most moderators (especially on that site) will view it as a he said, she said and you probably won’t get it removed. You probably already do some light screening for newer clients which will give you the opportunity to understand what source any new client found you from so you will be able to screen out those types of requests. Most experienced hobbyists will automatically assume that particular activity isn’t on the menu, especially for a newer client. Most experienced clients will also assume that just because it was posted in a single review, that it’s not a standard activity. If you have 30 reviews and they all said it, maybe that’s different. Probably not worth the brain damage you would go through to most likely end up in the same place.
That site & fourms do attract the low end of hobbyists... I'm so sorry you are going through that & not surprised! But to be fair those hobbyists HAVE talked a few more well known providers into BBFS & know they are more inclined to do it becuase the "cat is out of the bag" which is mind blowing! Hinted to a well known pornstar who provides that they put that out there about her & her reaction confirmed these low end mongers know how to sleaze their way into it!
Then there are the best of provides like yourself who stick to their guns...more providers should be posting rebutals on there as its not cool instead of caving in! At the very least makes them look like fools!
Avoid HX & ALOT of those mongers will be avoided!
But I would ABSOLUTELY post a rebuttal on there just for YOUR piece of mind & be done w/ that garbage...
Just my two cents & why I avoid that site! Good luck!!
It really irks me when someone puts in a review something you don't do. For instance, my last review, i dont allow cim but there it is saying I do. And I am sorry to say it happens here alot. And they may be a good review but I still don't want it. You guys don't realize that saying something untrue is dangerous for us. Or maybe you think it's not a big deal but you aren't the one alone in a room w a guy who read something false and now he feels he's entitled cuz he paid for it.
It is a sad,sad man that has to make up bs about what goes on. That's assuming the reviewer actually saw the gal. Many don't and they just make up reviews for free vip. How about we get free vip for outing those liars. I think it is a stupid policy to give free vip. Everyone should have to pay. Or give for discussion board posts.
Sorry A, I got off track. Hang in there. I still have average for my tits and ask anyone, they are not average. Lol.