There has to be a legitimate way to make BBFS, part of the Hobby and have it done safely.
Not all of us can get women pregnant and have pus oozing from our dicks.
Paying out hard earned cash, I want my money's worth and that's skin to skin. ( anything less, is kind of a rip-off and not GFE, IMHO )
Please, instead of a bunch of lame ass flaming and snide remarks, how about some intelligent comments and ideas.
(ok, flame away, but i do expect a few, to atleast be HONEST and agree with me )
Use an alias to respond. Everybody already knows who i am and i really don't care...this is an issue.

Hi,

... have life altering circumstances) There, I fixed the it for you!!  The ONLY way BBFS will be safe w/ the women in this profession, Is if the scourge of HIV & STD's are eliminated off the face of the earth!! Unfortunately, that's not going to happen, soon!! Be safe, man!!  Use the big head instead of the small one!! Your life may depend on it!!  RANT OVER!! Back to my favorite past time... perusing TER!! ;o)

email address and phone number. I will be sure to pass it along to every provider that I can. So that she can avoid you and believe me most of them will...

why did you hide behind an allies??
Hum....???

You come accorss as the kind of gentleman. ( inserting nice words here) who thinks a lady should jump through hoops for you. spend extra time with you and allow you to as you obviously stated do anythng you want with her. If that is the case they aren't charging you enough!! 300 bucks is cheap...

But, on a bright note. there are several ladies on BP that will accomodate your every need and for as low as 40 bucks.. no questions asked..

Go have yourself a jolly ol time....
and stop complaining.. you are getting what you asked for....................

... that BBFS can be used in a hobbyist / provider settings if that if BOTH were tested prior to the meeting and shared the results with each other.

Othewise, the risk is way too high for STD and pregnancy.

Yea, you said that you can't get a woman pregnant, that's one less thing to worry about.

The fact that STD can be transmitted so easily and many times you do NOT know if the other one is a carrier of something until it's too late.

Then what?

IMHO, I'd leave the BBFS to the wives or SO. Outside of that, no.

I do understand completely that doing BBFS is the best way to enjoy sex, especially for the male, but not while doing the hobby business.

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it need to be discussed?  You want it, you will try to get it, and if you do, you'll be happy.  Most others don't want it, don''t have to try anything to avoid it, and are happy with the way we hobby.

What, do you think you'll convert us if it's discussed?  Or do you think somehow it will be less disdained if you get to explain why you like it?

Get this.  The ONLY reason you can give for it is that it makes YOU feel more.  So fucking what?  Why would ANY of us care if YOU feel more?  We don't, so quit trying to convince us that we should hobby like you just because you like your way better.

Give me an objective reason for BBFS in the hobby, and I'll discuss it.  You can't, so why not just STFU?

First, you book a provider, who's willing to go along with your plan, for 1 week of her time. Second, both of you get STD tested. Third, stay with each other the entire time without sex. Last, enjoy yourself after you get your test result back. It's just an idea, but I think it has a reasonable chance to work. I don't have that much a hangup with condom so it's not worth the trouble for me.

The kind of volume they do is just not safe... this isn't the wild west lmao

Now I will say yes... condoms destroy a lot of the experience... but I take that into account when booking... it's why I personally prefer BBJ to intercourse... hard to keep it up with a condom on when you can't feel anything.

That being said... BBFS is still a terrible idea.

However I would like to try a lady that uses female condoms and see if the sensation is better than rubbers.

WRONG on all accounts my dear.
Jump through hoops, NO, fuck them without a rubber, YES!!
BTW, i'm a gentleman that has never stuck my dick into one of you, uncovered !!
Extra time with me? Where the hell did u come up with that?
Remind me to mark u off my list, i was gonna stop buy, bearing gifts and a tip...but, u blew it.
I also avoid women who suffer from BWS.

There are so many other SAFER things to do sexually that can be equally enjoyable that I don;t even care if I get FS or not, let alone BBFS. You just have to be creative and have fun. Why would you ever want to put yourself at risk with BBFS?

Thanks and i agree with you and it can be done, if done as you stated.

TUDE, wow, you definetly picked the right handle.
Besides, you probably suffer from BWS also.
Which means, if you are a female, my dick isn't going in you, covered or uncovered.

YES BBBJ's are awesome, but, i want my naked dick in that hot little kitty. ( and bung-hole )
It's friggen terrible when your with a hot little 20 something provider and can't get a vaginal nut because of rubber. Covered is not GFE. NEVER fucked a GF with a condom.
Not gross at at all....it's called real sex!!
Oh, believe me, it's out there, just wanted to discuss how to make it safer.
If ya don't wanna jump on board ( to some of the other negative posters ) and have an intelligent discussion...then, go away!!

I have used female condoms during a number of sessions, it's not bad!

It is one thing to be with one woman in a SD type deal and not fk anyone else, but are you seriously suggesting that we all start upping our real info. blood tests included, so we can bang strangers without a condom? I have no interest in it with just anyone I meet, and certainly not for the rates being quoted for it. If you want BBFS get a sugar baby or a girlfriend, but I highly doubt every woman here is going to jump at the chance for some guy to spooge in her. Even if I could not get pregnant and were not afraid of getting an STD, I would still NEVER let some random stranger cum inside of me. Your spunk does nothing for my PH down there..thanks.

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The female condom will NOT squeeze your cock and deaden the sensation... You can go from BBBJ to the vag pen with no interruption- if the FC is inserted after you DATY or even up to a few hours before... You can pull out and nut where you want, pending what is permitted by the provider. It's made with polyisoprene and nitrile material which warms and forms to the lady's va jay-jay and you can feel like the man you are; stroke away contently and spew your baby batter deep inside or wherever. IDK why you'd want to be unsafe or risk catching something from a stranger... I get the fact that you're uber clean and get tested often so you're not spreading anything. Yeah right! Some people like what they like, but I don't think the hobby is the best place for BBFS. Maybe an intimate swing/ sex group is what you truly would like or even a poly-amorous/ open relationship with a select few that are cautious, have clearly defined rules for play, and get tested often and are like minded. But seriously dude, you're not going to find strangers that are gonna put that much risk on the line for a good 8-15 minute f*ck unless they're doing the same drugs you are.

I have and it was not as good as a good condom. I am not that knowledge about FC so I don't know how many different varieties are out there. I can only speak from my own limited experience.

In Europe some high end courtesans or escorts do BBFS with their patrons but their rates are way out of your league. Think $20,000/month retainer and yes, you need to get tested monthly. If you could afford to hobby at that level you would already know the sources. The GD board where $500/hr is considered too expensive is not the place. "Safe" BBFS is also expensive BBFS. If not all parties are tested regularly the chances of infection are very high. Providers who charge average rates see too many clients to keep it safe so you are better off not doing it here in the US.

Your other option is the BP crack whore's $80 special. You will still end up paying the same amount of money in after care. Valtrex is expensive and so is the AIDS cocktail. Good luck dude.

I was really not trying to be rude...
You asked for an honest answer and I gave you one.
I first thought your post was in humor and then you stated that you were serious..

So... I gave you the answear that most providers are already thinking..

Thanks for the favor of not seeing me..I do feel blessed..
someone else suggested you get a girlfriend. which is a much more diplomatic answear....

Most folks will tell you I am a gentle soul and a sweetheart but I don't tip toe around your ego...
I guess we both misread each other........

Have a great day.................

Now that is a funny reference to BP.  I haven't come across those women and don't want to in all honesty.  22 yrs in the medical profession and I could tell some horror stories about some of what I have seen.

beached whale syndrome.

post something similar. I was looking at wisconsin ad board and noticed a provider ( who is married) prefers bbfs. She asks the gents to bring the supplies and she doesnt supply. She has more than 10 reviews. I dont know what to say. Not my thing.

your gonna be the 1st to get my bare wiener....Sugar baby !!!
SPOOGE in her ( lmao ).....love the word, never heard it before.
hey, i have an assoc of science degree...don't you worry about that acidic PH of your,s ( down there ) My spunk is a base and will give that acidic little kitty of yours a proper PH of 7.35-7.45.
If not, i will add a little tongue for good measure....

excuse me now...i have a date and if she starts doing that lap dance thing to-nite with her bare kitty inches from my bone....she's getting the naked weiner also.

According to Urban Dictionary, one of its meanings is "Bitch Whore Slut" .... I would hope that is not what the poster intended because that level of name calling would be uncalled for.

Really??? So when you first meet a GF or SO you immediately dip in with no protection??? I get that people in a committed relationship have unprotected sex but not at first. That usually takes time and is built with trust, not to mention having STD/HIV tests prior to having unprotected sex together. As far as BBFS goes, I concur with the other comments. It's just not safe.

because there's no guarantee of exclusive relationship. You can both be cleared by STD test and still have other outside "contact", which will completely invalidate the test result.

I get really nervous and check my wallet.

I feel the same way about anyone who would consider going BB with me. I do have a lady I like who does everything covered, is quite obsessive about it. So much so, that I feel completely safe with her, and would even consider BB if she was open to it. Of course, if she actually suggested that I would see her totally differently and say no.

Catch 22. It is such a stupid idea that anyone who will consider it is, by definition, a bad risk.

Yeah, there are those who do it and just play the odds (I call it Russian Roulette), and others who do it the same way the porn stars do - same doctors, same tests, same certificates. It does reduce the risks somewhat if you are prepared to go to the trouble and expense, but both of you have to do that or you have wasted your time and money. Or you can explore other ways to have more fun without taking those risks. Your choice. I vote for variety and adventures in safe sex.

Because BBFS in this high risk community is not a question of if you lose the bet, just when.

zig

how do spell RABBLE ROUSER..that is all this is..he is getting good at it because you all take the bait..

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I use covers for everything and many friends enjoy the female condom... many ladies have FCs on supply just ask!

But even porn stars know that the testing isn't 100% safe.  Even if you are using the PCR-DNA methods, you can still very well end up with a window where it isn't safe.  And of course, you don't know if your partner is also being safe when he/she isn't around you.

Having said that, if you really want BBFS and BBA, then there are porn stars who will do it for a pretty hefty price tag.

As far as the providers here...I think you've heard a good cross-section, and it's just not offered.

I'll humor you for the moment. Putting aside the overwhelming health evidence against bbfs, you have still failed to make even a remotely compelling argument why a provider would offer this service.

This is a business and your pleasure outside the context of profitability is irrelevant. We establish our menu of services based on one or more of the following three factors: 1) It is ticket-of-entry for the price-point and market expectations where we provide. 2) It gives us a competitive advantage in the marketplace. Or 3) It is market expansive.  Bbfs fails all three tests, and does so miserably.  So your tub thumping on the issue not withstanding, your basic premise is that providers should jeopardize their health, the health of their clients and the health of their business for the sole purpose of accommodating your desensitized penis.

The responses are completely spot on, from the providers who are running in the other direction from you to the others saying get a girlfriend...

BBFS is not something you can just say casually and not expect odd looks from a provider (Or others for that matter)...

Can providers ever advertise on here or other reputable places (I.E not BP) that they offer it - not a chance because it would not bode well for them all the way around.... and if you reviewed a girl and said BBFS (first I don't think it would be approved) you would find a majority if not all the "Well Reviewed" ladies to not return your requests for appointment...

I donno but I classify BBFS akin to riding a motorcycle without a helmet and think you will NEVER crash.... meaning if you really think you are that unstoppable, you might find yourself in the ER or dead...


Keep the cover on and pound away!

First of all I'm not advocating BB anything.  Second, everyone who is shocked and posting about
being unsafe is comical...  You are barely any safer with condom.  Yet everyone posting and ripping him apart is making it sound like wearing a condom makes you safe when that is totally false...

I can understand why everyone is ripping him apart as BB is a taboo subject...

Let's all just chill out, it happens more than all of you want to admit, much more...

Stop fooling yourself that wearing a condom is  the be all end all to protection, it's not...

Don't participate then you can give someone shit...

The fact that is, condoms ARE safer.  They DO prevent disease transmission.  

Where I do agree with you is in the assumption that every girl you fuck has a disease.  I live in NYC.  If you date here, you know that many do NOT use condoms even for random hookups.  And it isn't like there is a hotbed of STDs here.

In order to get something, the other person must be infected.

That said, is it really worth the risk?  Magic Johnson probably never thought it would happen to him.

And my ex was a pharmacist at CVS.  Guess what the two most commonly filled prescription classes were?  Anti-depressants and HIV meds.  She said you could never tell the HIV+ patients by looking at them.  

So while it is probably overblown to think everyone has an STD, it isn't as rare as you think.  Ask a doctor or a pharmacist.

Imma gona throw up


Seriously, why do you think you are entitled to anything because of your job?

when I checked out your Backpage ad, something didn't look right to me.

you stated that you have a full time job, but yet, you advertise that you are available between the hours 8 am to 7 pm.

how can that be if you are working full time?

I now work 36 hours per week, but get those hours in 3 days so I say I work "full-time" because to me, that's what it is. I realize it is technically 40 hours a week, but fk it. Anything more than 20 hours a week to a hooker is full time. Why are you stalking her ads as well? Bored much with all your multiple handle issues? Geez dude, get a life!

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Are you sure you still want BBFS? It could be even more dangerous with casual civilian sexual encounters. Please read the link 1st before you decide. I sincerely wish you lots of luck if you still want it.

Well said. I am a pharmacist as well and i have seen all types of people with lot of different STD's. With regards to HIV+, rarely i see a women with HIV+. It is much more in men where i work. Regards to hepatitis i see both in equal numbers. Other common STD's are common in young people in 20's.
I was once offered BBFS for extra charge of $100 which i simply refused. She was upset and left me after one pop. It was supposed to be a 1hr session with multiple pops.  

pregnancy and STDs. That goes for both oral and vaginal sex. I really wish when you people make such claims that you would get educated on such medical facts before you spout off bs. Still today, oral sex is only...wait for it, HALF AS DANGEROUS as BBFS vaginally, and anal sex is by far the MOST risky.  Thank your CDC who knows more than you.

Get an exclusive short-term arrangement with a sugar babe, or a few, as much as your wallet can support.  Find another one when you get tired of her.  NSA companionship without the baggage.  May be safer than BBFS in the hobby world.  

That explains everything, he only has an associates' degree! That explains the terrible spelling AND the urge to have bareback sex! I'm sure he'll have a misspelled response, but I could give a shit what a guy who's mad that beautiful women want a layer of latex between them and him.

Which begs the question, does your idiot stalker really think that by changing his handle, we won't know who he is?

Psycho and STUPID, what a lousy combination.

LR, why don't you make it easy for the little psycho and post your entire schedule for all of us to see, including when you plan on taking your next dump? Hopefully on him. figuratively of course, I know you would never even shit on him in real life. lmao

to take a dumb right about now...on someone's ugly looking mug lol.

I give props to Brianna Banks, and I know just the guy in Chi town to make it happen. E.

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You do know that I am asian, so the chances of my dick being to big are slim. Not non existent, but slim. lol

not just any bung-hole....i want yours!!
tell lawn boy to go away!!