REALLY awesome for you to put up with that for 2+ years. Holy crap!
Or was pure fear and waiting until she just left on her own? lol
I promise to make this brief and am not certain this is the correct forum but here goes. I'm an older guy who has been hobbying for many decades now and have had numerous long term relationships with providers - some of which have evolved into friendships. I've had two situations with the bi-polar issue in regard to ladies I've seen. One - who I'm still friendly with but haven't seen in quite some time due to COVID who told me she has been diagnosed with the condition and the second who I'm seeing now and I highly suspect may be bi-polar. It's the second (and current) friend I wanted to describe and solicit any input that might be out there. The sex with her is FAN-tastic! She really does incredible things to me that I haven't experienced in a very long time and my sessions with her are 100% 'real' - in other words full GFE and she seems not to be acting (but then again, who knows).
The issue with her is that twice, during extended overnight sessions, she has gone over to the 'dark side' and we've ended up in heated (verbal only) arguments. The first time after we both had had a few drinks and more recently when she showed up in what seemed like a pretty bad mood. I guess I haven't been very good at handling the situation and it somewhat scares me because I start getting a little paranoid since I've only known her about a year or so and we've been together only 4 times. Concerned because I'm not sure what she is capable of (blackmail I guess might be the worst case).
When we're together having great sex, it's all 100% paradise.....but then 
Anyway, curious if others out there have experienced similar situations and how they've chose to handle it. TIA for any help at all and also feel free to PM. Cheers and stay safe and healthy!
"The best sex in the world is with a crazy woman"
"Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself?
I have to admit, I briefly dated a certifiably crazy hooker a few years back, I don't mean "bi-polar" I mean a woman who had repeatedly been involuntarily committed to the fucking loony bin and who always traveled with a small duffel bag of meds, mainly anti-psychotics that would probably stop a rhino in it's tracks. lol I Googled her once and found out all the good stuff, and there was a lot of that, but all the bad stuff too, including multiple arrests and long stays in the loony bin.
This woman when she was "on" was the hottest woman on the planet (Atlanta Falcons cheerleader, semi finalist in Miss Georgia among other accomplishments) but when the "dark side" came over her she was an absolute wreck. It took her three hours once to find her way out of the airport after landing one day, and this was a domestic flight. lol
Yes, crazy can be fun, but it's also a LOT of work and quite frankly not worth it if you ask me.
a few times also. In an overnight, its sometimes easy to blur the lines between fantasy and reality, and many providers just can't keep their head in the game once NORMAL working hours end. I will gently remind them that if they want to argue, then they should not do it while they are on MY clock, because it was NOT part of MY fantasy date, and could we be a little more professional so that I will want to do this again? This worked every time, but one. On that one, I just excused myself, got dressed at 2:00 in the morning, and left. I had already paid on arrival. The next day she burned up my email and phone with messages apologizing profusely, and I just ghosted her. There was nothing to talk about. Either a provider can maintain a professional demeanor during a session or she can't. If she can't, its on me that I selected her, but I'm under no obligation to endure her once I stop enjoying myself.
Very wise advice - thanks. Funny that you mention the apology because my friend did that as well after the second time but who knows if it was sincere. I should have mentioned in the original post that she usually vapes some weed when we're together. I have never objected to it even though I don't partake.
sessions early for other reasons as well. I'm always amused at guys that will find they made a terrible choice, are having a terrible time, yet stick it out because they already paid up front for the time. For me, that's like telling a Dentist to "take you time, drill as slowly as you want." LOL
I've had way more experience with this than I ever wanted. I had a sugar baby who moved in with me and only then let on she was not only bi-polar, but an alcoholic as well. It was a 2+ year nightmare. To be sure, when she was "up" it was like having a super-happy-sexy-horny-excited-passionate woman who will do anything you want (and some things you didn't even know you want) with you and to you. But when she cycled into the depths, it was like trying to love and live with a self-destructive, narcissistic, self-absorbed, erratic, unpredictable demon who would be just as likely to disappear for 7-10 days as she was to show up at 3 am (by breaking in through your window because she's lost her keys) and try to burn your house and you while you sleep, because, well, why not?
Arguments, many. Tantrums, lots. Empty bottles of booze showing up in your closet, shower, cat litter box, etc., yep. There's more - after 2 years I thought she was finally going to find a path to wellness when she took on an AA (that's Alcoholics Anonymous) Sponsor. Unfortunately my hopes were dashed when I came home form work early and found her and the sponsor (who I did not know was male) banging on my sofa.
The point is, you can be her supportive friend and try to help her with patient guidance, understanding and providing a fully accepting safe space.
OR
You can try to have a romantic (or casual friends) relationship. But the latter will only end in you being dragged down into the abyss with her. Why? Because a Bi-Polar is in no shape to be in a relationship unless and until she embraces her disease AND starts taking and keeps taking her meds and therapy treatments.
So pick a side and good luck.
Life is good
The Cat
and the Cat's advice is spot on.
There is no cure for this disease, and it worsens with time. If you have the will to make it work, you may succeed.
If you do decide to work it out, there are many very good books out that give advice on how to work out a relationship with a bi-polar person, and I strongly suggest you start reading them.
is getting the right meds. They make a big difference.
I’ve known sex worker for many years. A couple of times after I first met her, we had some especially wild and crazy sex. She’s always great, but this was more than that—over the top. Awhile later she told me she’s bi-polar and had had some rough times, but got on a new treatment plan and was sticking to it, and was doing much better. And she’s seemed “normal” since then.
Meds for bi-polar and depression, while they CAN control the condition to an extent, often come with a price. They also tend to suppress normal emotions and make the sufferer not feel like themselves. As a result, many of them go off their meds and go nuts again. Many get caught in an endless cycle of going on and off, crashing and going back again. They also sometimes cause suicidal thoughts.
It's a miserable existence. If you're married to one and they're in your family, you kind of have to put up with it. If you're not, better stay away.
are making those taking them not feel like themselves and have suicidal thoughts, I’d question that they’re the “right” meds.
One of my best friends is bi-polar. I didn’t know she was bi-polar when I met her, but the fact she’s bi-polar won’t make me stay away from her. And she has lots of other friends who love her, plus her family that supports her.
Because it's a matter of brain chemistry and no one knows the right drug for an individual going in. Sometimes it's a case of trial and error. But if I suggested people simply "stay away" from those with the disorder I should not have. It's more in the context of a hooker/John situation that's the case. I have family members with the disorder as well as a very dear friend who ended up killing himself. I was deeply involved in that situation and am completely convinced that, while it was the drug that made him suicidal, the real culprit was an incompetent shrink.
I hope that clarifies.
REALLY awesome for you to put up with that for 2+ years. Holy crap!
Or was pure fear and waiting until she just left on her own? lol
If she knows a lot, a direct break may be a bad idea. Find a way to distance yourself and ultimately end it. Carefully.
How much does she know about me? A little too much, I'm afraid to say and that's why I'm a bit uncomfortable.
back away cautiously.
Worst thing that could happen is that she gets hungry and sleepy. Best thing is that she’ll be in good spirits and more likely to stay in a chill mood. Then again, this is total bro advice. I don’t know how psychoactives like THC might effect that condition. My assumption is that it’s definitely safer than drinking for someone like her.
....you have seen her 4 times and this happened twice, seriously. I can't see where any pussy or cock, no matter how much money changes hands, could ever be that good.
Suzee
and they already said it. I too was a victim of a crazy woman. She wasn't actually a provider but took the money to buy Christmas or whenever presents to her taken away kids. She was completely crazy and addicted to crystal.
I had to run away. I met her by mistake and had to literally, as they say, run away.
She had a FB account but hasn't posted in years, probably in jail or dead, not that I care.
I've known other mildly crazy. But that was one of the worse experiences ever.
A good friend explained to me that all women are 100% bat shit crazy, their sanity is a factor of how well the governor works (carburetor reference to the new folks).
Karen's are the first steps to crazy. Never had an issue with bi-polar women, but I run, not walk, from the crazies.
That's why we hobby and pay them to go away.
Ok, OK not in my case. I couldn't get it for free. But now I can pretend and say it like the serious hobbyists do.
Over a decade ago when I still lived in SoCal, and before my TER days, I had both the pleasure and the displeasure of what's it's like to hang out with a bi-polar escort. This woman was gorgeous, with an amazing dancer's body, which she was, on again/off again. She just really turned me on. But, I never knew from one session to the next which one of her personalities I was going to be hooking up with. When she was level, she was insatiable and playful and well...just so fucking amazing. But when she was off kilter, she was withdrawn and moody and frustrating to be around. I'll admit to letting the little head run a lot of my game back then, something that rarely happens anymore. But dang, I've got some amazing memories of some wild parties with her.
I would recommend not doing overnights with your bipolar gf's for your healthy & safety. If the sex is good maybe just stick to a quick visit. Be safe!
I'm thinking that's very good advice - thank you! Our other visits (always set at 2 hours) have never been problematic and she seems to be 'up' and [prepared for the session.
... I hung out with a provider on a fairly regular basis for a couple of years. We only saw each other during the day. She had told me she was bi-polar but on medication and each time we met was good -- this girl would do anything.
Then one time we arranged to meet late at night. She showed up off her meds and it was a mini-nightmare. After having some snacks here, she was clearly BSC. We went to bed anyway and it was not great, especially as it turned out she was just starting her period and made a bit of a mess. We both agreed she should leave. I got her dressed and out the door.
We did see each other a couple of other times after that but it was daytime and she was safely on her meds. She moved out of town a few months and recently was back in New York. We tried to make a date but couldn't align our schedules.
Which is to say I WOULD see her again because the sex was THAT GOOD. 
I was in a 2 1/2 year relationship with a former live-in GF a decade ago.
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" is all I can say about those 30 months.
As others have noted, I never knew who I'd be going to sleep with, or who I'd wake up with.
If there was a way to insure which personality of hers was "in charge" when you showed up, you'd be golden, right?
Sadly, I can't think of a way to insure this without probably pissing her off -- even on a "good" day.
Buena suerte!
Hi all,
Remember they are not crazy just need help. But along that line they do give some of the best times . But remember they have issues and treat them as such. Mental issues is same as cancer or any other diseases.
Interesting thread, but I find myself asking does the hobby attract people with this condition or is the number just representative of the general population?
I guess I am not as compassionate as some, since my only experience with what I describe as a "bat-shit crazy" provider who was absolutely stellar the first time we met, was to run away and never turn back. Don't need none of that in my life.
True fact, one in four women is on psych meds. This means the rest are running around untreated!!!
How are the bi-polar clients managing during the time with us ladies?
AA
Just like all people who are bi-polar. lol