I recently had an INDE girl tell me that she had to pick up her daughter from preschool in 10 min. Not realizing that we had gone about 15 minutes over the hour appointment, I immediately got the picture. She even tied me a double-winsor for me as I got dressed. I think I went on to see her possibly 20 more times before she quit the industry. In a later appointment I found out that she did not have any kids. Then again the way she tactfully ended the first  appointment was well done and I commend her for it.

Then again I had an Agency girl tell me at the 30-min mark (of a 90-min appointment) that she had to catch a cab in 5 minutes to go to an outcall. She then said "Lets get it overwith," put a cover on me and got into K9 position. It was such a turnoff but it got worse when she kept asking me "How much longer before you cum" while texting on her I-phone. Needless to say I never used that agency again. Normally, I would not be mad if she was a streetwalker but this was a very well reviewed and expensive girl from a very popular agency in DC.

One lady I see monthly for a two hour session will get up a few minutes after the end of the second hour and put on her robe, pour the rest of the wine (if there is any), start to blow out the candles and help me get dressed. She likes to tie my shoes. But it is all slow and takes a few minutes for things to amp up.

Another that I see at my place doesn't drive, so her driver hangs around. We do the two hour thing, and damned if at 120 minutes her driver doesn't call, and regardless of what we are doing, she takes the call and is out the door in less than a minute. She always wears a sundress, flip-flops and goes commando. It's a quick hug and out the door. I hate that, but if she weren't so great otherwise, I wouldn't put up with it. What I started to do is set my alarm for 5 minutes early. At least then there is bit of time to prepare for her departure.

As the saying goes; 'I don't pay them to fuck, I pay them to go away when I'm done.' When I'm done there is no reason to linger.

Most polite:  I knew the hour was up, and totally exhausted anyway.  Got up to get dressed, and the girl would not stop kissing me…even while I was getting dressed.  She helped me button my shirt in between kisses, then when I put on my pants she pulled out Mr J and kissed him goodbye. Again at the door a hug and few more minutes of DFK were forced upon me.

Least polite:  Doing doggie and she simply shoved me away from her, put on her bathrobe, and went to sit at the desk in the corner of the room.  She lit up a cigarette, stared at me, and blew smoke at me without saying a word.

I really can't think of any really bad endings except for one time many years ago at the onset of my hobbying career, I was with one gal who seemed like a pretty sad figure, but was also quite sexy nonetheless.  I suppose she'd be considered a suicide type gal in today's parlance but back in the 1970s, she'd just be considered a sad case.

In any case, at the end of the session, she started to muse about what might happen if her boyfriend suddenly popped in and found us.

I learned that I had an ability to get dressed very quickly at that point.  It's not till now that I wonder if she was just trying to hurry me out the door.

In nearly every case I can think of, I've always kept an eye on the clock and started to prepare to be out by the appointed time unless the gal insisted we stay longer - which most times is just fine by me.

Always assume with agencies that their policy is one and done regardless of your time requested. I make it a point to ask if it is MSOG before the appt is made. The nicest way if for them to get up and begin cleaning up or something that lets me know the time is up. The worst thing to do is get on the phone and start yapping with another client.

I had one provider announce the 30 minutes mark remaining and ask me if I was "ready to fuck me now." This was after an extended DATY session where she squirmed and screamed many times soaking the sheets.

Needless to saw, it was our last session together.

came first with a bbbj. then we went at it for about hh. still had 15minutes left, i tell her to switch to rcg and she takes the opportunity to  pull the cover off and starts a hj. that was a mood killer. didn't finish. needless to say, i wont be going back. not sure if i would label it least or most polite.

A gentle reminder is in order and not the buzz kill that so many providers practice. Simply: "Its time to clean up, I have other appointments."

One time I saw a gal who I had seen a few times before.

It was an outcall to my house.

When I called her to confirm, about an hour ahead of time, she mentioned that she had not eaten dinner.

So I went out and got some take out for her.

When she came over I had a plate of ribs/potatoes/veggies ready for her.

She devoured the food and then laid down on the sofa and said she wanted to nap for 10 minutes before beginning our session. This was a REAL GFE experience!

She was OUT. I tried waking her up a few times but she was sound asleep.

Finally, after lying next to her for a couple of hours watching TV, I got up and went to bed. She remained sound asleep on the sofa.

Some time in the middle of the night she awoke and climbed into the bed with me.

We woke around 6-7 am and joked about how tired she must have been the previous night.

I started to get up and get ready to go to the office.

She started to get playful and wanted to begin the session.

I said we'ed have to try again some other night because I really needed to get ready for work.

She then said she was sorry about what happened and wasn't going to charge me an overnight fee, just the regular session fee.

And she said this with a straight face.

When I told her that I wasn't going to pay her, she said, ( are you ready for this?) "OK, if you're not going to give me anything, then I think you should leave right now."

I reminded her that we were in my house. She got up and left.

It was the strangest end to a session I've ever had.

By the way, I saw her a couple of times after that. She never mentioned the incident again.

going to happen next. Same way with a lady. She has her ways of subtly communicating when you're transitioning to the next scene, especially the final scene.

I always book enough time to cover the activities that I intend to indulge in. If a provider even mentions time , I dont see her again!

why did you see her again? I believe in second chances, too, so there was apparently something that made you decide to give her another chance. What was it?

from the bed after chatting (which was after cup #2) and put on her robe.  She would then ask me if she should start the shower for me.

The only bad experiences have been with some agency girls when the phone would ring at 5 minutes before the hour was up.

That would annoy me.  I know that the meter is running but I don't want to hear ticking in my ear.  Any reference to time ending before it's up will insure I don't return.

want to know that you can stay a little longer?

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Did you call her a silly romantic?

I have had more then not providers go beyond the allotted time with me.  I am usually between their legs so the pleasure is all theirs!
I had one asian girl stop in the middle of a BBBJ and said,"maybe next time"
A few use the 'can i start the shower for you?' which is most polite.

Chances are if I'm leaving that early, I'm not attracted to the lady I'm with and have opted to blow & go.  In that case, I'm going to feel like I should lie to you so I don't sound like a heartless bastard.  Far less likely is that my socks have been knocked off, in which case I'd like to hear that we have time for a bit more.  In my personal experience, that's about 10:1 odds

I like the polite gambits to get started and pace the session on 1hour GFE's.  I'm moping and yapping about how no one understands me, while she nods with great interest, taking my poker out of my pants...

they looked at me and said, "Really? I thought it was one shot and go!" (Yeah, these guys have become my favorites because they come back again and again.) LOL Ah well... live and learn. Just when I think I've heard most of it, something else comes up and reminds me how naive I still am about this hobby.

Back when I starting hobbying, right after my divorce, I had a good time with the first girl I saw.  (The internet was in its infancy, and it was pre-TER.)  So, about a month later I contacted her again.  The second time, not so good.  She was an hour and a half late to the appointment (outcall at my place).  She came in right away bitching about how busy she was and how she couldn't possibly keep up with all the appointment requests she was getting.  She wanted to get started right away because she was behind schedule.  Her phone was ringing constantly, and she was answering it.  40 minutes in to the one hour session, I'm pounding her in doggie and she just pulls away and stands up and says "that's it, I've got to go, I'm too far behind schedule."  As she quickly got dressed I reminded her that I booked and paid for one hour, but she basically said "too bad, I've got other guys waiting for me."  

Needless to say, she was crossed off of my list.  A few months later I got an e-mail from her stating she was retiring soon and I would have the opportunity to see her one last time.  I ignored the e-mail.  Well, like a lot of girls, she didn't stay retired, because low and behold I happened to run in to her at a meet and greet party about 5 years later.  She came up to me and said "have we seen each other before, because you look familiar?"  I said "yes we have, and you owe me 20 minutes."  She thought I was joking about the 20 minutes, but I wasn't.

For polite, I'll just comment in general terms.  Just quitely standing up, then giving me a kiss, and getting dressed will do just fine.  If she wants to take a shower before leaving, she can say "I would like to take a shower, would you like to join me?" is perfect.  Of course, all this assumes that the vigorous physical activity has ceased.

One more thing.  This whole issue brings up a sore subject with me.  When a girl is doing an outcall to my home, I really don't like it when she thinks a one hour session means exactly 60 minutes from the time she walks through the door on her arrival to the time she walks out the door to leave.  After the drive to my place, a lot of girls, shall we say, have to answer the call of nature.  So, she goes in to the bathroom, shuts the door, and does whatever a girl does when she's alone in the bathroom with the door closed.  Come on, does that count as "session time?"  The same thing could be said if she goes in to the bathroom to change in to lingerie, or combines the two activities.  Some girls can spend an awful lot of time in the bathroom.  What about getting dressed afterward and touching up her make-up so she'll look good for the next appointment?  Do I have to pay for that?  

In my opinion, a good one hour session does not include those preliminaries (and post-liminaries if that's even a word).  That is, total time (if we are counting) she is at my place will be about an hour and 10 minutes or an hour and 15 minutes.  The whole taxi meter mentality really bugs me.  The "one hour" in a one hour session should mean the quality time: conversation, warm up, cardio work-out, and snuggle time.  Anything else is just overhead on her part.  That's what not being a clock watcher is all about.

We shouldn't have to remind you...YOU booked the amount of time with US

I like to get up and head for the shower with about 20 minutes or so left in my standard two hour appointment, usually after pop number two. Take 10 minutes or so to wash away any ah, evidence, my wife might notice, a few minutes to get dressed and say goodbye, and out the door a couple minutes early. I don't have any interest in meeting her next appointment in the elevator or lobby...

The correct response would have been to say something like:  "Oh, I see we are way overtime, but I really enjoy having you with me, but that's up to you."

Then if she stayed, you would have gotten a more accurate response.

I think she felt somewhat compelled to stay on her dime out of fear of not offending you.

I am still a novice at this, but I hosted a provider (outcall) and things seemed to be going great, we had a wonderful session and the conversation was still going strong way beyond our scheduled time.  Finally she said, "It's getting late.  Should I go?"  I was having a wonderful time, so of course I said, "No, you can stay as long as you like."  We kept talking and she left maybe an hour later.  I'm still not sure if her question was meant to be a subtle hint or some kind of polite way of excusing herself.

But also since the session went so vastly over-time (as in, more than double what we originally planned, which was already a slightly discounted longer arrangement to begin with) I also partly wonder if she was hinting for more money.  I don't think so, because for what it's worth, from my perspective it seemed like she genuinely wanted to keep talking but not overstay her welcome (it was about 3am and she knew I had work the next day).  But I'm new at this and bad at reading hints, so I don't know.

As I still wonder about what she meant, I am comforted when I remind myself that if a provider wants to leave, she will find a way to leave.  So I guess she genuinely did not mind staying, otc.  (shrug)  Is that common?

Jay's outcall provider said
 "It's getting late.  SHOULD I go?"  

 There is only one short answer, unless you want her to leave. NO  
If she wanted to leave she would have said, it's time to mosey on, or simply leave.
I would have replied, I am broke with no extra donation, if you would like to spend the night I'm  game.
 
 The hobbyist should leave her incall on time,unless she asks him to stay.

 Outcall is different. Why put words in her mouth if she's being  receptive, or take the chance on insulting,or offending, if she truly desired to stay?

sure,keep thinking that they get pleasure from you.lol

When you meet in person,my number 1 rule , NEVER negotiate or mention money
Some people have different rules.
 If I book her for a hour or two outcall the correct donation is clearly visible when she enters. She picks it up behind my eyes,when I go to the bathroom, a minute or two after she enters.
When I come out of the bathroom the donation is usually gone, never to be mentioned in any  way, whether subtle silent eye, or finger pointing.
If she's acting like she wants to stay after the session,I make it clear she is welcome and I am broke, insuring I won't wake up with a 2 K bill.
If she is incall I have different rules.
I leave when my time is up, unless she tells me its not time to go and asks me to stay. If I am putting on my coat, almost out the door, and she struggles to mention,  she is hungry but tired of room service, thats my cue to ask if she would like to go out, and grab some grub at Burger King or the Strip club.
If I wasn't a broke cowboy, I might operate differently.
A rich impulse shopper would have completely different rules. Thats not me.

I'm still unsure about money-related etiquette, so your reply is interesting.  The (very helpful!) advice I've read has all been directed to money-related etiquette before and during the session, mostly motivated by avoiding LE (and, to a lesser degree, respecting the profession).  But what about after the session, when LE concerns are somewhat alleviated and the mutual respect has been established?

You said in your reply that you would say, at that point, that you don't have enough for an additional donation, but she's welcome to stay.  That's really what I wanted to say, but I wasn't sure if it was a breach of etiquette.  I was basically playing by the rule of never mentioning donation at all.  But does there come a point where there's enough trust and respect that a more open negotiation of terms is normal?  This is getting away from my previous question a bit, but I'm curious about this too.

Thanks for the help, BTW.