: TER General Board Discussion : The face? Hmmm... How strong is the correlation Fishbro?

octavia.lexa See my TER Reviews 1295 reads

posted 11 years ago

1 / 30

Is there direct correlation between the hourly fee of the provider and the quality of the session?

at what price point does the straight line starts to curve?)

some guys won't book an escort that charges less than certain amount because they only want what they perceive to be the best and exclusive? But do you really get the most bang for your buck when you book a super high end escort? or is it just perception of quality just like with some other high end brands of tangible goods?

Are there really many guys out there who think they are too good to see escorts below certain price point despite good reviews?

-- Modified on 11/15/2015 10:50:07 PM

Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 490 reads

posted 11 years ago

2 / 30

Not in my experience.

Some guys will only drive a Benz while others don't care about transportation one bit. I have found that price does NOT mean quality in P4P at all.

Posted By: octavia.lexa

at what price point does the straight line starts to curve?

)

some guys won't book an escort that charges less than certain amount because they only want what they perceive to be the best and exclusive? But do you really get the most bang for your buck when you book a super high end escort? or is it just perception of quality just like with some other high end brands of tangible goods?

Are there really many guys out there who think they are too good to see escorts below certain price point despite good reviews?

-- Modified on 11/15/2015 10:50:07 PM

hiddenhills 143 Reviews 459 reads

posted 11 years ago

3 / 30

Not really

The lingerie and shoes may be pricier, as well as the incall hotel may be 4 star, but the quality of the session isn't dependent on the rate.

Posted By: octavia.lexa

at what price point does the straight line starts to curve?

)

some guys won't book an escort that charges less than certain amount because they only want what they perceive to be the best and exclusive? But do you really get the most bang for your buck when you book a super high end escort? or is it just perception of quality just like with some other high end brands of tangible goods?

Are there really many guys out there who think they are too good to see escorts below certain price point despite good reviews?

-- Modified on 11/15/2015 10:50:07 PM

Dr. joe 32 Reviews 534 reads

posted 11 years ago

4 / 30

I think there is a minimum below which it is not safe to go.

END OF MESSAGE

Intrigued* 424 reads

posted 11 years ago

5 / 30

200+ ph...NO -e-

END OF MESSAGE

mrfisher 115 Reviews 502 reads

posted 11 years ago

6 / 30

Price correlates more closely to age and condition of the body

as well as perceived beauty of the face than quality of the session in terms of the providers skill and attitude.

Also the more expensive providers might have a more extensive menu.

But it is hardly a strict linear progression, and outliers abound in both directions

Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 432 reads

posted 11 years ago

7 / 30

Re: I think there is a minimum below which it is not safe to go.

Or desirable

Gypsy2184 See my TER Reviews 537 reads

posted 11 years ago

8 / 30

My $0.02 as a provider

I definitely understand why going under a certain price point can be sketchy because from what I've seen the providers that do very cheap service are generally a bit desperate there for maybe using drugs etc or overall do not have high standards which includes safety whether it be law enforcement or sexual heaIth.i think most of it has to do with how much you invest into yourself and into yourtincall location or transportation.whomever stated that it is dependent upon age body type etc.I disagree I am a bigger woman and by no means a barbie ha! But i will not low ball myself on my rates because of that if anything I would go higher because it's a niche market. Even if you are an older woman you may be highly reviewed and good at what you do and again a niche market. So overall I think that if you go to a super high price point you will be at a five star hotel and your escort will be probably wearing thousands worth of to lingerie ect.you are paying for high class experience not necessarily a++ service....imo...

lopaw 29 Reviews 330 reads

posted 11 years ago

9 / 30

Yes. -e-

END OF MESSAGE

Senator.Blutarsky 388 reads

posted 11 years ago

10 / 30

You sure do ask a lot of questions...

Based on my experience, I'd say there is no correlation. Also, since there is no correlation IMO, the second question doesn't apply.

I'm sure there are guys who buy based on high end and perceived exclusivity.... And no, you don't get the most 'bang' for your buck when you book a super high end escort. Those that play there are buying more than sex.

When guys don't go below a certain price, it has nothing to do with them thinking they are 'too good' but more that they have learned that to get what they are looking for requires a certain minimum...

Solo mis dos centavos...

skarphedin 375 reads

posted 11 years ago

11 / 30

The face? Hmmm... How strong is the correlation Fishbro?

And what is the mechanism since most faces are blurred.... not disagreeing. Just never considered it before.

I will say that I disagree up to $500 hrs....

GaGambler 425 reads

posted 11 years ago

12 / 30

You might not disagree, but I do

Sorry fish, but I think you blew it on this one. Not only have I found very little correlation between price and looks, but once you reach a certain minimum threshold, there is almost no difference in menu. I mean honestly, except for BBFS, just how much more can the typical $3-400 hr provider add to her menu. There are only three holes, and only so many ways to fill them.

The only thing the HDH's bring that the more modestly priced providers don't are amenities like silk sheets, 5 star hotels, and maybe snacks and libations. Other than that, it's all marketing

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 334 reads

posted 11 years ago

13 / 30

No, not really.

I have often said the difference between a $300 provider and a $500 provider is $200.

Now there are a few factors such as location that affect pricing, and there is a lower end where you shouldn't expect the same service (The bp $120 specials, etc), but I think once you hit about the 300 level, it's all the same. (Agsin location related) After that you pay for brand name, and atmosphere.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 351 reads

posted 11 years ago

14 / 30

With regard to face, don't you think a Ginger is worth $100 more....

to the average hobbyist than a Mary Ann?

As for menu, greek is the main reason for another $100 tack on, in fact many do offer it as a trade up.

There are other things that add money: BDSM and fetishes being the main ones

GaGambler 342 reads

posted 11 years ago

15 / 30

That's assuming that the extra $100 gets you an upgrade in looks

and by and large that has NOT been my experience over a certain minimum price point.

as for BDSM and fetishes adding to the price, I would like to point out that especially BDSM providers are rarely in the upper echelons of price. I just did a search using "S&M heavy" as a filter along with a minimum price point of $500 hr. I then removed the S&M filter and got 493 pages of reviews.

No, what you get for the extra money is usually a woman with a healthy sense of self worth, and usually a nicer location. Not a lot more in "Most" cases.

my_dixie_wrecked 335 reads

posted 11 years ago

16 / 30

Re: You might not disagree, but I do

I agree that there are plenty of more modestly priced providers that are just as attractive as the HDH's. However, I still would say that there is at least some correlation between looks and price. While there are plenty out there that could charge as much as the HDH's with the right marketing and geography, there are also plenty that could never charge that much regardless of how they market themselves and where they live. So for that reason I have to say that there is at least some correlation between looks and price. I also agree that there is not much correlation between menu and price, but greek usually has an additional charge. She would also be serving a smaller market if she doesn't offer bbbj.

some-guy 6 Reviews 351 reads

posted 11 years ago

17 / 30

From my experience lower $$ means YMMV. Higher $$ means reliably good.

For less money I'm usually taking a chance. Maybe in a less experienced provider trying to become more established.

The gals who have lots if consistently reliable through-the-roof reviews are less of a crap shoot and 9 times out of 10 wind up being mindblowing.

Unfortunately those are the ones who don't need my business and have the luxury of charging a premium.

scoed 8 Reviews 377 reads

posted 11 years ago

18 / 30

Sex workers are like wine.

Quality is a perception thing. The main difference is often the packaging, and the expectation of superior quality but in the end there isn't much of a difference.

joecarter 307 reads

posted 11 years ago

19 / 30

generally yes

ladies, for the most part, earn their scores. However, I have seen a few (very highly rated) where the scores were not justified but they had really good advertising.

I only see top rated ladies and have settled on the best my area has to offer as regulars and occasionally see a top-shelf traveling girl. There seems to be a break-point for me at $350-400 below which the quality is lacking unless you find a rookie ($300) before their rates go up. I won't go above $500 (with multi-hour discounts) anymore, the cost-benefit just isn't there.

Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 335 reads

posted 11 years ago

20 / 30

No, and I just thought of one more thing ...

Experience. I've seen a few "new" providers in my time and the one thing that is constant is how they compare everything to higher priced providers. "I'm better looking, younger, thinner, than her so I should be charging more" seems to roll off their tongues like a well rehearsed script, but they never bring up the"experience" that the other provider has. They just see dollars. Sure, that "other" provider charges above the average, BUT she's well known for her bbbj skills. While that skill at bbbj may be an innate ability, I highly doubt it. That other provider put a great deal of effort into learning how to give the perfect bbbj and her consistent reviews show it. Far too many "wannabe" providers think its really easy money to be a provider and unfortunately, that may be partially true, but being a GREAT provider takes a real effort, a desire to be good, and lots of experience to get there.

Posted By: octavia.lexa

at what price point does the straight line starts to curve?

)

some guys won't book an escort that charges less than certain amount because they only want what they perceive to be the best and exclusive? But do you really get the most bang for your buck when you book a super high end escort? or is it just perception of quality just like with some other high end brands of tangible goods?

Are there really many guys out there who think they are too good to see escorts below certain price point despite good reviews?

-- Modified on 11/15/2015 10:50:07 PM

octavia.lexa See my TER Reviews 342 reads

posted 11 years ago

21 / 30

Re: My $0.02 as a provider

you make sense. loved your your post

Posted By: Gypsy2184

I definitely understand why going under a certain price point can be sketchy because from what I've seen the providers that do very cheap service are generally a bit desperate there for maybe using drugs etc or overall do not have high standards which includes safety whether it be law enforcement or sexual heaIth.i think most of it has to do with how much you invest into yourself and into yourtincall location or transportation.whomever stated that it is dependent upon age body type etc.I disagree I am a bigger woman and by no means a barbie ha! But i will not low ball myself on my rates because of that if anything I would go higher because it's a niche market. Even if you are an older woman you may be highly reviewed and good at what you do and again a niche market. So overall I think that if you go to a super high price point you will be at a five star hotel and your escort will be probably wearing thousands worth of to lingerie ect.you are paying for high class experience not necessarily a++ service....imo...

octavia.lexa See my TER Reviews 329 reads

posted 11 years ago

22 / 30

Re: "High-end brands of tangible goods"

Thanks for the input. Everything you said makes sense.

Posted By: ToriValentine

As far as high-end brands of tangible goods go, its hard to argue that they aren't of better quality ... shoes made by hand by skilled workers in Europe are simply better made than shoes produced by machines tended to by wage-slaves in poor countries.

I'm not sure how that correlates to the service industry, though.

I will say that my Chanel pumps have outlasted and outperformed my Steve Maddens so many times over its hard to count. And my Wolfords simply wear better than my Leg Avenues.

I have what I perceive to be high rates (though many would disagree). I have extremely loyal and wonderful clientele who come to see me specifically to enjoy my specialities.

It wasn't that way when I was more of a bargain provider with what constitutes bargain-hunting pricing. I saw guys who liked what I looked like and weren't coming for what I like to serve. They were also people who liked to try whatever caught their eye and lord reviews girls (as if TER scores are the be-all end-all) - and that's not exactly the business that I'm trying to create (hence the high minimum booking).

Generally the men who are looking for stellar services for specific niches are not the same men that hang out on TER boards bemoaning the rates that us professionals have the gall to charge (not that this is happening in this thread yet, but it happens weekly on the GD board). The guys I see are thrilled to be seeing me, they book longer sessions than they need sometimes (i.e. they wouldn't dream of overstaying and if they want to chit-chat they make sure they book time for that or they EXTEND in order to go get a nightcap) and they tip. They are hardly concerned about price. That's the kind of suitor I'm calling to me with my marketing.

If you ask hobbyists and board mongers, of course they are going to say that price has nothing to do with quality of service. But if you ask my loyal suitors, or really any clientele of high-end niche service providers, they will tell you that they wouldn't have it any other way.

The choice is yours. Have fun!

*edited for a typo

-- Modified on 11/16/2015 12:57:11 PM

Larissa_Sweets See my TER Reviews 334 reads

posted 11 years ago

23 / 30

Good to see you are not being attacked....

I posted a similar question a while back, I've heard both good and bad. A lot of people tend to stay in the 300 and on. Some say those providers are great and others dont. A lot of people that see 800+ providers often complain that they are so self-centered that it's almost like you should be honored to be in their presence. I don't know. I'm personally am not that expensive but I am a gift. It all depends on the provider.

mojojo 1 Reviews 330 reads

posted 11 years ago

24 / 30

The curve is relative to how each lady fits my perception.

In my many years as a gentleman caller, I've experienced pretty much anything, and everything. There are some absolutely wonderful sessions to be had for a very low price. There are also some beautiful sessions to be had at high end rates, and every price in between. But also, at every single price point, the sessions can be average to horrible. It all depends on how any given lady naturally matches what I perceive to be a great session.

Naughtyfrederica See my TER Reviews 329 reads

posted 11 years ago

25 / 30

It also depends on her clientele..

I raised my rates when I started having clients spend more on me besides my donation, that is giving me a $ 9000 Cartier bracelet after paying for a $500 session or flying my around the world for outcalls....so I got smart!