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The comparison..
Wow! a man after my own heart....I agree! Are we having fun,yet?!
Sweet tastes better than sour! Don't worry be happy!
of soldiers fighting for freedoms to the Crips and the bloods is the most fucking stupid comparision I have ever heard of in my life. Your an idiot!
You wish well to the fellow citizen who is trying to kill your kid with drugs and gang wars, who is in it only for the sake of padding his own pockets.And in the same breath want to put the burden of Cain on the people protecting your ass.
While the men and women over seas, no matter what we may believe the purpose of this war is about, are putting their lives on the line for you , for YOU, understand that. Not to pad his pocket book.
No doubt that the other side we are fighting have their beliefs about what they do also and I can understand that point well.
To complain that someone doesn't explain what the couple of reasons are that someone goes into the service is really kind of stupid, cause no matter how articulate she maybe there is no way she can be in their head to explain to you why someone would enter into the service. Obiviously there are many reasons that yound men and women enter into the service, all very public and avaialble to you to know if you are as up on things as you seem to try and project. Nobody can speak for someone's moral reasons for what they do so why do you critize her for not giving you info she can't possibly give you.
You say that we need to make sure of the righteousness of the cause before we are ready to kill........maybe these people feel they are sure of it in their minds. Surely you aren't and I would assume that's why you aren't there protecting our freedoms. Or maybe the righteouness of the cause is just simply protecting our freedoms so that we and our children, your children can live free and the way that we so choose.
Freedom is always meaningful, in all senses of the word, just maybe what we have a hard time comprehending is "when, at what point, at what action, is it that we start to lose our freedoms"
Brave US fighting men and women = Crips, Bloods and Mafia. Goddamn that stupid ass statement pisses me off.
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My god people, we're tearing each other apart here. What the hell is happening to us?? I can understand that we are all under a higher level of stress lately due to the obvious, but it seems that everything that is said lately sparks it's own little war of sorts, no matter who says it.
In the grand scheme of things, i know that we that read this board and enjoy it so much(usually anyway) comprise just a minuscule microcosim of society as a whole, but i would hope that there is still a relatively good cross section of people here. That being said, if it's happening here, want's going to start happening on the streets soon??? It kinda makes you wonder alittle before stepping out the door in the morning.
I do support our men and women in all military branches. Not because i do or don't feel any particular way about Iraq. How i feel doesn't come into play. I support them because they deserve it. It's the least i can do for the people that go to places i hope never to have to go and do the things things i hope never to have to do so that i may sit here and write this. Right or wrong has little to do with it to me, they get my neverending support because they chose to give there life for me if that's what it takes. That's all i'm going to say on the issue, and i only said that much to clarify that one thing for everyone who reads this.
Perhaps we could all try to reel ourselves back in alittle, or check our thoughts on certain things at the door alittle more and get back to the basics of what we are all here for in the first place?
While i don't post often, i do very much enjoy my time digging thru the site as a whole. But lately it has become it seems to remind me more of Jerry Springer out takes then The Erotic Review.
Yes,yes, i know......General Discussion should be just that, and maybe if the issues at hand were alot more cut and dried, it would be. We do all have the right to say what we wish, just as i am now. It seems lately that we are being hit with a lack of credible information while at the same time being flooded with so much of it that it's causing sensory overload. I know, that makes no sence at all, but it's the best i can put it at the moment. All of which adds to the confusion which may lead to fear which usually manifests itself as anger.
Maybe we can all try to get back to discussing the thing that brought us all here in the first place. The thing we all look forward to and enjoy so much. Hobbying!!!!! :-P
That being said........let the flaming begin.
Wow! a man after my own heart....I agree! Are we having fun,yet?!
Sweet tastes better than sour! Don't worry be happy!
Passed some young girls on a side walk today, maybe 13-15 years of age, waving peace signs and yelling peace slogans at motorists. Thought I'd give it a try, so asked them what age they thought were the men and women out in the sand going to battle for us. They answered 19-23, which I considered pretty perceptive. I then asked how they will feel when 6-8 years from now their 19-23 year old boy and girl friends (and maybe themselves) might very likely be out in the same sand fighting the same battles against the same but far more technologically destructive enemy. There these girls' perception died and they hemmed and hawed, and as I walked on I sensed a considerable drop in their peace slogan enthusiasm. None of us know for sure the relative risk/reward of this thing and the right answer only will be written in the prognostigators' guesses as to what might be or what might have been, so like most big decisions there's an equally big risk. All I know for sure is that we don't want to be on the losing side because political democracy and economic capitalism are inexorably linked and the former collapses without the latter into class warfare and eventually totalitianism. I'm not a Bushy and believe the coup he and his Repub friends pulled was unforgivable, but on the issue of Iraq and like situations I agree with him. And those young girl;s I passed on the side walk -- I think deep down they also now are more likely to.
Hardly debate, just asking them to think one step further than fashion and popularity. One small step. Interesting that they did it with little more than recognition of enlightened self interest. Just like most of us and most of our leaders and most of other nations' leaders. Sad but true, we must watch out for ourselves as well as being compassionate for others, cause no on is being particularly compassionate toward us.
Correction: With enough heat, and something shiny for the back.
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