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The 80's were so awful I got married! EOM.
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I started 15 yrs ago..unless I missed something..DFK and BBBJTC was hardly ever available..Visited many different incall establishments in the late 80's ..the days of 100-135/hr FS.. almost always CBJ and definitely no kissing (a taboo)..If you were lucky..with a promised tip you got BBBJ..but always "don't cum in my mouth"..see many reviews nowadays from independent providers  offering PSE and GFE..incall service I recently experienced GFE was great..Want comments and experiences from us old timers..guys and gals...

GirlCrazy5619 reads

in San Francisco and Los Angeles.  The rate was about 300/hr in SF and 500/hr in Century City/Beverly Hills.  Kissing was a no-no and CBJ was the norm.  I went on a long hiatus and had only recently started visiting the ladies again.

May be ads by independents on the internet and reviews on sites like TER tear down the inhibitions ladies had about this business.  Pop cultures and TV shows like Melrose Place, Ally McBeal and Sex and the City advocated the idea of multiple partners and frank sex talks for women.  Female sexual needs became open topics.  I guess all these precipitate the lowering of the barrier erected by ladies in the 80s.

Can’t wait to read comments from the ladies.

The market adapts, because the girls read the reviews just as the guys and they see what guys are looking for. I've been asked numerous times by a provider, who wants to know what was in her review. So they market themselves to attract business. Those that don't do that, loose clientel pretty fast.

-SF-

The first time a professional girl kissed me, I was stunned. Here in SF, GFE is still a rare commodity, but I figure with the cost inflation, the service offering should expand as well.

To me GFE is not much more than an indication that a girl likes her work. I'm always looking for special ladies who truly enjoys the time they spend with people. Now if you're having a good time, why not kiss? Why not express the kind of passion and affection you might experience with a girlfriend?

If you don't enjoy your work, what the hell are you doing it for? Money? That's pathetic. It seems to me that all companions should be GFE, or not at all.

Love your answer and agree..but years ago ..I was told by providers that kissing was taboo and was always thought of as an intimate thing..reserved for that special person in their life..Also I always wondered ...can a provider really enjoy giving CJB?..I mean..the girls are really blowing latex..not your cock..how can a provider that really loves oral enjoy CJB?I've never used a dental dam(not sure if that's what it's called) to eat pussy..that would give me no pleasure at all..and I agree that providers giving GFE enjoy their work..are hotter in general..rather than others that just go through the motions for pay..

very well said couldnt agree with you more

fortitude3728 reads

I started "hobbying" 30 years ago.  And back then, before HIV, there were no holds barred, although I can only recall one provider that allowed kissing, and only for regulars.  But BBBJTC was standard operating procedure at that time, as was DATY and Greek.  Things changed about 10 years later, when HIV and AIDS became known as an STD.  Girls (and most guys) opted to protect themselves, and rightfully so.  For many years we didn't really know much about these diseases other than it was an STD that killed you.  I was married and faithful for a period of time, and about 4 years ago took up this hobby again.  The whole "GFE" experience is new, and a marketing necessity. Since the Internet and boards like these allow the client to more selectivey choose their next date, and they have the ability to find providers that offer what they want, the provider must market as much of herself as she feels comfortable with to stay in business.  Also, and more importantly, today's provider has grown up in a less sexually repressed society (except for certain Republicans and the Moral Right), and want to enjoy what they do as well as earn a good living.  That's why the consistently GFE-rated providers thrive, have large numbers of great reviews up on TER and the like, and are tough to book.  But we still have the Cash-and-Dash, Bait-and-Switch, etc. non-providers that figure they can fool anyone at least one time.

fortitude..good to hear from an old timer..older than me ..and I'm 46..thirty yrs. ago ..wow..that was the early 70's..were condoms in use back then with providers? or was that the  sexual revolution time when anything went..even BBF??

fortitude3952 reads

...........and condoms were not yet invented.

They placed a sock,
upon their cock,
And disease was thusly prevented!


I'm old enought to remember!   :-D

and toilets weren't invented,

they dumped a load upon the road
and thus they were contented.

(Alternate version - what's up, Westsiiiide!)

Saw streetwalkers 3 times in NYC around 1974-5. You paid for a single "act". Uncovered 69 with HJTC; uncovered mish (she must have just got her period cuz there was some blood on my cock - YUK); covered mish (just as well cuz she smelled like a fish market when I pulled out - YUK). Wham bam, thank you ma'am. Those were the days, ugh. What was I thinking back then?

The internet-based hobby is a whole 'nother thing compared to my early "pro" experiences.

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Guess that is something you do not  forget..but at least you did not have to worry about AIDS..

fortitude5252 reads

I'm a New Yorker, and the few times I tried out the streets I tried to be careful about looking for a "clean looking" girl.  I had one similar experience with that time of the month, and one experience that was so good I actually saw the girl on and off for about a year.  Then I discovered nuce little houses 'round town and those got me off the streets.

fortitude3796 reads

BBFS was as common back then as BBBJ is nowadays.  In fact, I would venture to say that if there was an Internet back then with boards like this, BBFS would have been the hot topic, like you would have to do that to be considered GFE.  Interestingly, with the spectre of AIDS in the early 80's, when fears were almost irrational at times, it wasn't uncommon amongst providers to cover EVERYTHING.  Including CHJ, if you can imagine.  That's when I got married for a second time :-)  LOL.

I am a relative newcomer to the hobby - 2.5 years - It has only been in the past year I have found the "true GFE" experiences. IMHO, DFK is in indication that the woman truly likes what she does and DFK is just a part of that and helps her to "get into the enjoyment mode". It certainly makes for a much more enjoyable experience.
As to BBBJ's I have expounded on this before - that is fine for those that want it,(I prefer not) but I do not believe it is a mandatory part of a true GFE in the profession. Let's face it she is not your own personal lover! If she goes out of her way to make you feel special, shows that she truly enjoys being with you (read real orgasms) IMHO she deserves high ratings and classification as a GFE. To me this is someone who you look forward to visiting again soon.

When I first started in this hobby about 2 yrs ago, I didn't have a clue what GFE meant. My first experiences were in Bangkok and over there kissing is taboo (the places I went to anyway) and everything is covered.

Then I start getting into the scene here (LA) and found that almost anything goes (even some uncovered vaginal sex as discussed here ocassionally - very scary). My initial notions were to play it very safe and have the kind of experiences that I had in Bangkok. But then almost the first escort I saw here kissed me better than any GF I ever had and I was hooked.

I now tend to seek only those ladies that are willing to put  passion into what they do. For me it is not really about sex. It is about passionate sex and having the kind of experience that you would get from a lover (maybe not even GF).

I think I'll try to coin a new acronym--- LE (Lover Experience). Come to think of it, something about that just doesn't work!

I've been in the hobby since 1983.  Until Y2K, I had exactly one BBBJ from a provider.  Since then, it seems more than half of the providers out there will do it.  I think the boards have driven a lot of this - the girls just know what they have to do to get the phone to ring.

I also think it has a lot to do with the sexual attitudes of the girls coming into this business.  About 20 years ago, it seems that if a girl (non-pro) had 15 partners in college, she was a slut.  I suspect having 15 partners now would be pretty common.  Since people seem to be having more (and better) sex these days, it's natural that some of the benefit would flow up to the hobby.

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