Hitting it off, and seeking it out. Are fairly different events.
Sure it's cool if a client and provider really hit it off, and the relationship becomes more than what was expected.
I'm curious as to know why a gentleman would seek out a relationship in this arena?
EGO
One of the many attractive aspects of the hobby is that you have fun, hopefully both of you, and then she leaves (or you leave if it's incall). That in itself is fucking beautiful, no bullshit or fighting or any of the crap that comes along with dating or a relationship. You both know what the motivation is and then you say your goodbyes. Why anyone would want to mess with a good thing is beyond me. This is not to say I wouldn't date a provider if I was interested in dating. I think providers or past providers would make good SO's, I just personally can't see the upside of a dating relationship now that I have the hobby. Fun for a known cost and then "have a nice day", you can't improve on that, in my mind anyway and I understand everyone is different.
I'm curious as to know why a gentleman would seek out a relationship in this arena?
1. Submissive - attracted to a cuckold relationship as a fetish.
2. They want to feel like they've rescued someone.
3. Sexually insatiable so if you can get to the open mindedness of monogamy not being right for everyone, then an escort seems like a fit, she's already open to sex.
Just a couple of scenarios, interesting question though, because there are definitely men who do "seek" it.
1. The guy is an idiot and thinks that it's going to be just like the sessions all-day everyday, and won't turn into a typical relationship and all its attendant baggage.
2. From my (limited) experience, the ladies who are into this are generally more free-spirited and open-minded and certainly amongst the coolest people I've ever met. Why wouldn't I want to get to know them better?
So I go out on a date, and we stop for drinks.
Two conflicting questions start coming at me.
My date says, "Don't you think you've had enough?"
And the cocktail waitress says, "Would you like another?
so why wouldn't you want to get to know them better?
It may not be the best idea for a lot of reasons, but the attraction is easy enough to understand.
Very true.
My question should have asked, Why do guys want to date providers, when the guy knows nothing of the provider?
Sure you could say "to get too know her" Why would you want to get to know her, just because you think you like her, based on her career choice?
as a lover and companion. I find that providers let their hair down and share a lot very quickly, more so than when people first meet in the civie world, and that apparent intimacy fans the fires of desire to date. I speak of personal experience here
Successfully for more than the expiration of a prenup.
Otherwise, it sounds like most of you are absolutely clueless. With all due respect, the funniest is The Cos's pseudo psychological intellectualism. The irony of the need to rescue comment literally caused to snort my expresso. It's no different than my supposing you needs to provide over poor self esteem and the need to feel wanted. I'm saying this knowing that we generally have seen more eye-to-eye lately.
You can conjecture we all saw Pretty Woman and dreamed of being Richard Gere. The real answer: it's none of your fukking business. Lol.
In reality, it's not worth telling people the real answer..More than half the guys here can't pull a civvie woman from a bar, if he ever knew how to, or commit to an average civvie woman, not to mention conceive of a relationship that values a woman for her present and future potential, not her past, which invariably includes sex abuse, drugs, and bad decisions of youth. IDK, maybe try renting Chasing Amy and watching it with someone smarter than you. Lol.
You silly son of a bitch, you're dating finger cuffs?
Otherwise, it sounds like most of you are absolutely clueless. With all due respect, the funniest is The Cos's pseudo psychological intellectualism. The irony of the need to rescue comment literally caused to snort my expresso. It's no different than my supposing you needs to provide over poor self esteem and the need to feel wanted. I'm saying this knowing that we generally have seen more eye-to-eye lately.
You can conjecture we all saw Pretty Woman and dreamed of being Richard Gere. The real answer: it's none of your fukking business. Lol.
In reality, it's not worth telling people the real answer..More than half the guys here can't pull a civvie woman from a bar, if he ever knew how to, or commit to an average civvie woman, not to mention conceive of a relationship that values a woman for her present and future potential, not her past, which invariably includes sex abuse, drugs, and bad decisions of youth. IDK, maybe try renting Chasing Amy and watching it with someone smarter than you. Lol.
You are from Jersey? I thought that's where JLA went to school. Jersey Shore biaatch lol.
I didnt go to her HS and I'm not from joi-sey but I watched Don John so I know how a guido is supposed to act.
The Cos would say I wanted to be at the business end of the infamous Finger Cuffs, out of a need to rescue Alyssa. Lol.
I'm only on coffee 2... Who's JLA?
Don out.
Her real name is Joey Lauren Adams, you goof.
The movie took place at the Jersey Shore, where Kevin Smith is from. The actress is from Little Rock, AK. Great movie!
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Rescuing people is a human need...financially, emotionally, psychologically.
The sex industry allows for that. Otherwise you can rescue someone from a bad relationship, a bad home, etc
And I'll happily "verify" it. Lol.
Even if someone naive is in the neighborhood, I can't condone the idea.
It's analogous to a fake review of a provider or saying you know what it's like to drive an Aston-Martin Vanquish at 150 mph on the autobahn, when you haven't. Sure you can fake it... Lol.
since Tobi said she wouldn't do me. She really hurt my feelings. I even nominated her for "rookie of the year"! I did sign a prenup once and it was worth every penny!!! She was a fucking knockout. The nup said she gets everything I own now and in the future. No wait, that wasn't in the prenup, that was in the divorce decree. I had one shit lawyer for both! But I still love my brother.
I "dated" my tantric partner. She was not a GFE escort, and our Tantra sessions were only partially about "having sex". Over those years we routinely went to dinners alone or in social groups at some of LA's finest restaurants. Circe de Soliel and the opera were frequent "dates" as we'll as tons of films because we had per-release invites, several plays, again many because we had comps, and a lot of casual time together at lowmarket establishments. I even let her talk me into going to church once, at Rev. Al Green's church. Aside from that, most things were mutually agreed on and very enjoyable for both. I continued to leave donations for the Tantra sessions, but otherwise there no exchange of money for our time together.
So yes, the relationship was very rewarding. Eventually we went our separate ways, but we never wanted it to become a marriage, so... It was what it was. Such things happen.
Now, after having experienced that, I have from time to time "hit it off" with others in the life, and naively asked if they wanted to "go out" and gotten very different responses, mostly SD expectations, et al. So it's rare, but you meet people in the course of living your life, and some friendships develop. That my masseuse became a friend didn't strike me as all that significant. That this particular woman allowed me into her life was a blessing I have always been grateful for.
Again (we had this conversation before) what are the odds that you'll wind up dating the woman who sells you coffee at your favorite local coffeehouse? The odds, for me, turned out to be the same. Once in each category.
I can't pick a woman up in a bar, not one that I would be attracted to anyway. But, I also don't want to. I don't want to go through all that bullshit, I want to get laid. It's going to cost me one way or the other, so I have the perfect answer, pay a provider. A lady that I am attracted to and that is there to make me happy. Another bonus is watching the women in the bar when they realize I have their kryptonite. Why isn't this guy responding and falling all over himself to try to get in my pants. No thanks, I'm going to get my world rocked by a 9 later and you're a 6 at best and I don't have to listen to your bullshit to get it either, it pissed them off.
Otherwise, it sounds like most of you are absolutely clueless. With all due respect, the funniest is The Cos's pseudo psychological intellectualism. The irony of the need to rescue comment literally caused to snort my expresso. It's no different than my supposing you needs to provide over poor self esteem and the need to feel wanted. I'm saying this knowing that we generally have seen more eye-to-eye lately.
You can conjecture we all saw Pretty Woman and dreamed of being Richard Gere. The real answer: it's none of your fukking business. Lol.
In reality, it's not worth telling people the real answer..More than half the guys here can't pull a civvie woman from a bar, if he ever knew how to, or commit to an average civvie woman, not to mention conceive of a relationship that values a woman for her present and future potential, not her past, which invariably includes sex abuse, drugs, and bad decisions of youth. IDK, maybe try renting Chasing Amy and watching it with someone smarter than you. Lol.
Every female I've ever dated, or been intimate with outside of pfp has been a little loopy.
Crazy is hot, talk about a two way street. lol
I know you could not pick up a chick if your life depended on it and I can see why
Your not exactly a very handsome fellow lol!!!
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I guess it would be nice to not have to lie about seeing escorts.
I hate lieing... So. That would be a huge weight off my shoulders.
Can't say I would be okay with her fucking random guys though.
I don't really know.
I'd rather not find that out the hard way...
I have no trouble giving up the hobby when I date.
You can't ask someone to quit their job, so you would be comfortable dating them.
That's the main reason I highly doubt I would ever date a provider.
I would probably ask her to quit.
I'd like to think I would be able to handle it..
I don't know though
1. Most providers are really hot.
2. Most providers really love sex.
3. See one and two if you still don't get it..
4. Free sex with said hot woman who loves sex.
5. Ego/Narcissism - said guy gets to have lots of sex with really hot women for free while other guys are paying for it.
Any questions?
- Spartan
and there you have it! It is just unexpected, and cool.
PS: Is this really Angel? Are you drinking? not like your normal posts.... but I sort of like it.
Once you weed out the trophy hunters, the would-be pimps, the stalkers and the junior high school crushes it's easy to see that even in P4P sometimes one person will develop a strong liking for another. It happens in offices and in squad cars and on military bases and in showbiz so why not here. Sadly it will sometimes be the case that those feelings are not reciprocated and that the other party wants to keep things on a strictly business basis. In that case it's up to the first person to man up--or woman up--and move on. Just because we're engaged in a business transaction doesn't mean genuine human feelings will not occasionally intrude.
OMG..we actually have an interesting thread with no name calling or bashing..i love TER.
And then the basher gods will pick one of their insecure subjects to come try to pick a fight while they are hiding behind the security of their computer screens. You see their subjects can only feel good about themselves by trying to make others look bad. I've got this all written down, I can show it to you sometime. Oh wait, I already did.
but I guess I wouldn't rule it out either.
I usually end up pretty friendly with most of the girls I meet, but I doubt any would date me in RL, lol
Like I said I'm not against such relationships (why mess up a good thing?) unless you are trying to make it better.
Now as usually, I have to ask. Before you get to know a providers personality, is it her hooker status that is an attractive feature?
Hooker smarts, is definitely a desirable trait.
It depends. .
Some people just hit it off, with no artifice and no agenda...that has happened to me.
Some men are just so lonely and socially awkward that they fall in love with any woman who is nice to them. I have a few clients like that.
Hitting it off, and seeking it out. Are fairly different events.
Were attracted to the idea of dating a provider, even if it wasnt something they consciously sought out.
I think that for the two guys I dated, it was a mixture of great personal chemistry, and the allure of the forbidden...and, the promise (perceived, at least) of sex on demand.
...and I don't seek it out. Very rarely would I be opposed to the idea. I mean what man sees an escort, that he is not attracted to, on some level?
I am interested in why the ones who seek it out do.
Could it be more of a challenge in their eyes?
I know I can be enigmatic at times, but everyone seems to be getting ahead of themselves whilst answering this question. Perhaps one has to, in order to give a genuine response.
...and I know there will never be a one size fits all conclusion.
The vast majority who seek it out are generally failures in multiple senses.
If you're targeting that group for your intelligence, it's an oxymoron.
It has to be purely luck combined with at least not being opposed to the idea.
I am interested in why the ones who seek it out do.
Could it be more of a challenge in their eyes?
I know I can be enigmatic at times, but everyone seems to be getting ahead of themselves whilst answering this question. Perhaps one has to, in order to give a genuine response.
...and I know there will never be a one size fits all conclusion.
They're not necessarily dumb, just desperate.
I believe subconsciously, we all get a vicarious thrill pursuing someone, when we know that outside the hobby, it would not be realistic. Just like the striaight-laced girl from high school wishing she was with the bad boy.
I've said this before. This game works backwards from civvie dating. First you fuck. In the process, after a few times, you get to know one another and a social relationship can develop. It's happened to me several times and it's very rewarding because I really enjoy some of the brave and hot women who have enough balls to make this a profession and not have it eat them up. They can be wonderful friends and companions. But date them? I don't do that in the traditional sense. But who cares about tradition?