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A provider I've seen on/off for a year texts me out of the blue with a 'lets get together' msg. I agree to book a place where we've met before & we agree on a time after I get off work.  I book the place--it's a hot room.  I turn on the AC full blast & take a shower.  She texts that she'll be 15 min late.  I'm a bit irked by this--I just got off work and it's been a long day.  But I reply 'Ok'.  

It's still a hot room--the hotel AC is shit. 15 minutes pass, she's still not there.  I wait another 10 minutes and now its 25 minutes past the appt time & oh fuck it. I send her a one word text 'cancel'.  I throw my shit together and get out of that fucking hotel room.  I just want to go home now.  As I'm pulling out of the hotel lot my cell rings and it's her.  I don't answer.  She calls again, but I'm pissed & I'm not taking that fucking call.   She sends a text that she was just pulling into the hotel when I left. Sure, ok. It doesn't matter now.
 
Question for the board: how long should a client hang around for a late provider?  I just have a low tolerance for this bullshit--it didn't help that I was tired & the room was hot.  But when a provider contacts me out of the blue for an appt, she needs to be ON FUCKING TIME. I'M NOT WAITING.  
lol.   --z

   
 

You're probably very punctual and that is good to be considerate like that. But there might have been a reason why she was late. Maybe she got lost or maybe she got stuck in traffic. Both have happened to me on my way to see providers. I've  ever had a provider tell me to forget it if I'm running late to the session and I've let them know.

While I called them to let them know, she texted you in this case. It sounds like you were already a bit irked but I think that you pulled the plug on the date way too early.

She had an even greater obligation to be on time.  Having said that, who knows what kind of traffic jam may have popped up unexpectedly.  I probably would have cut her a bit more slack.  Perhaps the shitty AC made you cranky?  That wasn't her fault, though, was it?  I mean, you picked the room.  Spring for a classier place next time, maybe.  Or ask the hotel to change your room.

preference.  That said, if time was that important to me, I would make SURE that I let her know that in advance - in other words, I'd tell her when setting it up that I was on a tight schedule and if she can't be there on time I wasn't going to wait.

It sounds like you waited about 1/2 hour - I'd probably wait at least an hour, but, if my schedule was tight to begin with and I only had about an hour to spare to begin with, I might not even wait more than 15 minutes - but, again, if that was the case I'd make sure she knew that up front.

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If have something else scheduled, and it's not this work related, it's my other work related, I will be explicit and say that I don't have much of a window for lateness and to prepare ahead of time, they have been great about it. On the flip side, if I have time and they are running late, I just tell them to relax, don't speed or get into an accident and get here when they can...no problem.

I am a stickler for punctuality  but do see the unforeseen cropping up. Only on I think about 2 occasions  have I had to cancel a guy that was running way too late because I had to be somewhere else to be.

as you were leaving the hotel parking lot. If I didn't like what she was saying, I would've told her that I was leaving. As far as waiting, every situation is different. If the provider is texting me updates, I'll go a little longer, than if I'm waiting in silence.  If I'm in a Starbucks, again I"ll wait longer, just depends. Max wait however, probably an hour, also depends on the reviews, great reviews maybe longer.

...I don't know where you are located, but traffic in DC area is horrendous. A friend of mine, recently, got late for his own wedding. :D.  Traffic delays are common as common cold. If I had a room at disposal, I would have certainly waited 1 to 1.5 hrs. Whats to lose? Watch some TV. Enjoy a hot or cold beverage.

Now, if I were waiting in parking lot, that's another story.  I expect incalls to start on time, as I don't want to be seen hanging out and attracting unwanted attention. With outcalls, I have more flexibility.

If its outcall to my room, since I'm divorced and on my own schedule, I would be inclined to wait quite awhile ... at least an hour. Especially if the lady was keeping me updated on her situation. I can always just watch the TV or read something. Of course, my schedule or plans may be very different from day to day and I might not be able to wait around on any given day.

If its incall, then I would probably say a 1/2 hour, but once again it depends on so many things. My schedule that day, how far I had to drive (I live in Tampa but sometimes drive to Orlando area for meetings ... I would be inclined to wait longer there since I drove for an hour+), my mood, my relationship with the provider, has she let me know what is happening, etc. I always bring something to read with me just in case I have to wait some.

Regardless, it doesn't matter what any of us would do. If 25 minutes was too long to wait for you that day under those circumstances, then it it simply was. There is no set time to wait that can be applied to every person for every situation. I hate it when people are late as well, but unfortunately I can't say I've never been guilty of it either. I look at patterns from people instead of one particular occurence.

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The time is really dependent on the individual, their tolerance level for lateness and what other things are going on that day.

I have an issue with people who are constantly late, because they just don't give a crap about other people's time. Pure laziness and inconsideration. And what's worse, if everyone around them waits and doesn't say anything, well, we/they are perpetuating that.

When she texted & you accepted the delay, I feel you extended your obiligation.  I would have allowed another 30 beyond the delay...  meanwhile, figure out how to cool the room or get a room change.   Did you bring cold beverages in with you?  I'd be pissed at the hotel, not at her.  If you honestly passed in the driveway, I'd have turned around...  
It's your decision, but this is someone you've seen before & apparently liked enough to agree in the first place.  I'd have cut more slack.

I think you let your ego get in the way of what might have been a nice encounter.

If a lady is keeping in touch I can be pretty patient . I probably would have text her back after 1/2 hr and ask..."hey, what's the status".  If I did not hear back rather quickly I would send an additional text " last I heard you were running late. If I don't hear back from you in 10 minutes I'm gonna assume you are not coming and I"m making other plans for the evening".


If I had been you I would have been there when she arrived. When she entered my room she would have been all aplogetic about being late. I would have assured her I understood...just glad she was OK and how great it is to see her again. Then I would have banged her every way possible using every piece of furniture in my nice room.  She would have been very accomodating and generous with her time due to her tardiness and my good natured response.

I would have eventually sent her off....took a nice shower...go to the hotel bar and have a glass of wine and then head home to the comfort of my own bed a vary satisfied gent who had experienced a delightful evening.   But, that's just me.  I'm sure you approach has it's merits as well.

In the future, if they are running late but still coming to see you, get out of the room and go to the local sports bar or hotel bar and relax.  Shit happens and she is coming to make your coming. Don't sweat the light stuff, there is already enough heavy stuff to worry about.  You knew the deal when she contacted you, so she obviously needed to met.  And as someone else said, she would definitely make it up to you to keep you happy.  I suspect that there was something else working on you.  Search youself for what was really bothering you as your action seem out of place for what you were there for.

think to call the front desk to switch rooms. I mean it's not like you had 3 suitcases to unpack and then pack up again like a touring provider does. Don't get me wrong...I am not siding with her, because I feel if she was tacky enough to send a random "I need business" text to you out of the blue, she should really be appreciative that you even said yes and then booked the room to boot. I would have picked up the phone, and said "Sorry, too late. In the future if you want my business, try being professional."

Posted By: Zangari

A provider I've seen on/off for a year texts me out of the blue with a 'lets get together' msg. I agree to book a place where we've met before & we agree on a time after I get off work.  I book the place--it's a hot room.  I turn on the AC full blast & take a shower.  She texts that she'll be 15 min late.  I'm a bit irked by this--I just got off work and it's been a long day.  But I reply 'Ok'.  

It's still a hot room--the hotel AC is shit. 15 minutes pass, she's still not there.  I wait another 10 minutes and now its 25 minutes past the appt time & oh fuck it. I send her a one word text 'cancel'.  I throw my shit together and get out of that fucking hotel room.  I just want to go home now.  As I'm pulling out of the hotel lot my cell rings and it's her.  I don't answer.  She calls again, but I'm pissed & I'm not taking that fucking call.   She sends a text that she was just pulling into the hotel when I left. Sure, ok. It doesn't matter now.
 
Question for the board: how long should a client hang around for a late provider?  I just have a low tolerance for this bullshit--it didn't help that I was tired & the room was hot.  But when a provider contacts me out of the blue for an appt, she needs to be ON FUCKING TIME. I'M NOT WAITING.  
lol.   --z

   
 

Posted By: London Rayne
think to call the front desk to switch rooms. I mean it's not like you had 3 suitcases to unpack and then pack up again like a touring provider does. Don't get me wrong...I am not siding with her, because I feel if she was tacky enough to send a random "I need business" text to you out of the blue, she should really be appreciative that you even said yes and then booked the room to boot. I would have picked up the phone, and said "Sorry, too late. In the future if you want my business, try being professional."
Posted By: Zangari

A provider I've seen on/off for a year texts me out of the blue with a 'lets get together' msg. I agree to book a place where we've met before & we agree on a time after I get off work.  I book the place--it's a hot room.  I turn on the AC full blast & take a shower.  She texts that she'll be 15 min late.  I'm a bit irked by this--I just got off work and it's been a long day.  But I reply 'Ok'.  

It's still a hot room--the hotel AC is shit. 15 minutes pass, she's still not there.  I wait another 10 minutes and now its 25 minutes past the appt time & oh fuck it. I send her a one word text 'cancel'.  I throw my shit together and get out of that fucking hotel room.  I just want to go home now.  As I'm pulling out of the hotel lot my cell rings and it's her.  I don't answer.  She calls again, but I'm pissed & I'm not taking that fucking call.   She sends a text that she was just pulling into the hotel when I left. Sure, ok. It doesn't matter now.
 
Question for the board: how long should a client hang around for a late provider?  I just have a low tolerance for this bullshit--it didn't help that I was tired & the room was hot.  But when a provider contacts me out of the blue for an appt, she needs to be ON FUCKING TIME. I'M NOT WAITING.  
lol.   --z

   
 

...cuz every time I looked out my window I was staring at the back kitchen entrance and a nasty dumpster!  No way I would've put up with no a/c!

Ok let me see if I can get a clear picture here?

You get a solicitation out of the blue, from someone you have seen before.

You go PAY for a room, and the A/C does not work.

She is late and you leave.

Either we are all idiots or your just trolling for whatever. Nobody PAYS for a room, and then bails and does not use it. Nobody PAYS for a room to meet a person with the intent of a temperature raising experience, only to keep it when the a/c does not work. They ask for another room.

If you had called the front desk, I am sure they would have been happy to move you and your condoms to a better room. Worst case, you could have gotten your money back on your way out the door, by complaining ( in most respectable places anyways ).

I think most guys would just use Plan B. Call someone who is predictable. But just walking away from a room you paid for without trying to get your money back or a better room does not pass the sniff test.

You could text her but you cant call her? And she calls you and you wont answer? Personally I call BS on this one and think it should be sent to Snopes.

Just my $.02

And, by gum, there it was!  The joker really did do it!  But you know what's really funny?  In his OP he seemed to be soliciting honest answers.  But when he got some he didn't like, he got all huffy and suggested those of us who disagreed should "grow a pair."  What a douche.  He should have grown a pair and asked for a room with working AC.
Personally, I have never paid for the room and have no plans to (though, for you, I might if you asked nicely).
PS: The Cunning Linguist asked me to tell you the correct word is "drivel," meaning childish babble, or a baby's drool.  Dribble is what LeBron does with his balls.

Posted By: inicky46
And, by gum, there it was!  The joker really did do it!  But you know what's really funny?  In his OP he seemed to be soliciting honest answers.  But when he got some he didn't like, he got all huffy and suggested those of us who disagreed should "grow a pair."  What a douche.  He should have grown a pair and asked for a room with working AC.
Personally, I have never paid for the room and have no plans to (though, for you, I might if you asked nicely).
PS: The Cunning Linguist asked me to tell you the correct word is "drivel," meaning childish babble, or a baby's drool.  Dribble is what LeBron does with his balls.
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When The Cunning Linguist or Conan The Grammarian request I post something, I just can't help myself.  Gawd, I miss my old aliases!

Yet it is rare anyone calls me on them anymore. I guess no one has that kind of time. LOL :D

We all know what was meant, so does the rare error really matter?

And The Cunning Linguist has other tasks to fulfill.  So he limits himself to correcting hot ladies and making them laugh.  They tend to treat him very well.

Yes, but now you are free from correction, that's the silver lining.  It's like when I first came on this board, started inventing countless aliases and continually fucked up by posting on the same thread with my handle and then an alias.  Drove Gambler and LP nuts.  Got moderated a bunch of times.  Then I started having what Gambler called "keyboard diarrhea" and drove him nuts having to check dozens of posts a day.  He finally gave up and we had an agreement: he'd let me fuck up occasionally and remain unmoderated as long as it was harmless.  So I kept fucking up occasionally and Gambler/LP would just pull them and let me carry on.  Most of it was stuff where I was just kidding around.

Photo is of Toxic A from Met-Art.com. Sorry for the spelling.

No, dribble is correct. Dribble is also the definition of drool or saliva coming from the mouth. Which is what trolls have that post such threads and wait on the responses. My thoughts were the post is nothing but tainted waste fluid. The fact that it seemed nonsensical was a given in my opinion. That would have been drivel.

As for your and you're.... Guilty as charged. It's a habit I have never been able to get past. Sorry for the confusion it has caused.

How dare you argue with The Cunning Linguist?  I'm warnin' ya, one more snotty remark and TCL and Conan the Gramarian are gonna tag-team your hot ass! LOL!

As to "your" and "you're," I'll give you a pass too, but I might correct you in the future. Don't take offense;)

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I knew this post was coming, comments below:

Posted By: ReaganMoore
Ok let me see if I can get a clear picture here? You get a solicitation out of the blue, from someone you have seen before.  You go PAY for a room, and the A/C does not work.  She is late and you leave.  Either we are all idiots or your just trolling for whatever.
What part of the above is so unbelievable?  I'm not the only guy on this board who gets unsolicited text msgs.  The A/C was working, but it wasn't powerful enough to cool the room quickly.  It was at the end of a blistering hot day.  If I had traded rooms, it's fair to say I would've gotten another hot room.  
Posted By: ReaganMoore
Nobody PAYS for a room, and then bails and does not use it. Nobody PAYS for a room to meet a person with the intent of a temperature raising experience, only to keep it when the a/c does not work. They ask for another room.
Are you kidding?  This is illegal activity & I don't want to attract attention to myself.  Or maybe you're so brazen that you don't care about appearances.  Here's some new math: I lost $60 on the room but saved $300 for the session.  
Posted By: ReaganMoore
If you had called the front desk, I am sure they would have been happy to move you and your condoms to a better room
My advice to you: instead of preaching about condoms and room swaps, just be on fucking time & maybe you won't get cancelled on.  --z

just to drive a few hours. I am sorry, but it sounds like you booked a shit hole. I am still agreeing you did the right thing to leave, but I would never visit such a low budget hotel. If you think the entire hotel was just as hot in every room, you should have not booked to begin with. There are hotels out there with working ACs that are actually set on 70 when you walk in. The hotels I use are normally freezing when I enter the room.

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Motto:  We'll leave the cross burning for you.

:o)

But seriously, I had to eat the cost of a room once.  I took the afternoon off to see a gal, and then she cancelled.  This was pre-internet so I grabbed the Yellow Page and tried and tried but no nice.

I was married and had to be home by 6, so I hung my head and headed on home.

Oh, and it was a nice four star too, no Priceline back then, so I paid the rack rate, maybe $200 back around 1990.

I agree he had the right to leave when she did not answer the phone to begin with, and in the future if this woman or any other provider spams for business, make THEM pay for the room!

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London & Fisher: this was a short-fuse appt, so I didn't have time to shop around for a nicer place.  The provider texted me right when I got off work.  I thought I'd be a gentleman & book the room.

Since London only does incalls, I'm sure she wouldn't book a cheap place.  BUT I'd  be really skeptical if you guys start making claims that  you've never booked a cheap hotel on the fly.  Don't even try that bullshit.   --z

You tried to blame the "hot room" on her being late and the reason you did not want to wait around longer...that is not her fault, it's yours! The other parts I said I totally agreed with, and still do. I would have left as well even if the room was perfect in condition. You had a hard day at work and rushed to book a room. All you wanted to do was take a shower, and get off and your provider was flaky...that part I get.

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London: i'm not blaming "the hot room on her being late".  Let's not make this complicated.

1.  The room was hot.  It's my room, so that's on me.

2.  The provider was 25 minutes late.  That's on her.

3.  If the provider had showed up on-time, I would have quickly forgotten about the hot room.

4.  If the provider didn't want to be in the hot room, I would have given her gas money & split.  

--z


Posted By: London Rayne
You tried to blame the "hot room" on her being late and the reason you did not want to wait around longer...that is not her fault, it's yours! The other parts I said I totally agreed with, and still do. I would have left as well even if the room was perfect in condition. You had a hard day at work and rushed to book a room. All you wanted to do was take a shower, and get off and your provider was flaky...that part I get.

I guarantee you I've never booked a cheap hotel on the fly, at least not to use for a session.
PS: I've been to the Raphael a couple of times.  Nice.  The lobby is full of very expensive tail.

..meet the provider in public and then go the room together. Already have the room booked, but don't check in until the provider shows up. That way you can cancel the room, and get all your money back if she doesn't show up - as long as you cancel before 6:00 PM. If you are doing an afternoon rendezvous, this should work like a charm....

I've done this couple of times successfully, when the provider couldn't show up...

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Plus flip it on the guy like he did something wrong.  I will say I don't blame you one bit.  She was late,  it had been a long week, and it was hot in the room further fueling his annoyance.  Sometimes you just say fuck it and go home.  I dont see it being weird that he bailed on a room that he paid for if he was pissed.  Lesson learned though.  You should of let her get the room.

Especially, since she was in touch.

I have waited an hour and 10 minutes for a no show. When I checked my email 70 minutes after what should have been the start of the session, I saw an email from her. She actually cancelled 10 minutes before the start time...by email! This was an outcall and I had booked a room. I was pissed but tried to make the best of it.  I spent the night in the room, used the hotel facilities and walked to a nearby stip bar. Obviously you didn't have that option.

On another occasion the provider was 45 minutes late at an incall. I was downstairs calling, texting and emailing her with no answer. This was not an obvious location like a hotel lobby or I wouldn't have done that. It was a condo, with outside elevators, and several restaurants, night clubs, coffee shops and stores, all tied to the same parking structure, so I didn't look out of place. Anyway the point was that I was about to leave at 45 minutes when she finally called me very apologetic, saying she fell asleep, and did I still want to go through with it. I did and it turned out to be one of my best sessions ever. An initial 2 hour date ended up being about 2 hours and 40 minutes where she rocked my world, then she reached into the envelope and took some money out and gave it back to me, saying there was no way she can accept the full rate because of her tardiness. Then we ended up going to dinner OTC. None of that would have happened if I baled, and of course none of that would have been possible if she or I had other commitments after the date.
I'm glad I waited that time. Sometimes there are legit excuses. And sometimes they more than make it up.

You did what was right for you, and I don't think you were wrong. I would have done it differently.


Ladies, 90% of success is showing up.
right?
I do my best to not be late. Unfortunately, things happen.. traffic, construction, life etc.
Given this scenario... I can understand frustration from a gent's point of view... she calls you, asks to get together, sets up a time, says she's going to be late, even though you're waiting around, she's still not there even 10 minutes after she said she would be there....

This is where communication is key..on both sides. If you sir were pressed for time, maybe you should have let her know.. also, if you have seen her on and off for a year, maybe she has a precedence of being late for appointments? If she is one who is typically punctual... then you should have given the courtesy to wait around a bit longer. If this is unusual behavior for her, it should have signaled that she may have encountered some difficulty in travel. At the very least, place a phone call, not sending a simple text message.

The lady who sent you a message should have also made a point to be on time. If unforseen circumstances (traffic, speeding ticket, blazing school bus full of nuns) impeded her travels, she should have also called you when she noticed that her "fifteen minutes late" was going to be more like a a half hour. This would have given you the opportunity to at least be in the know.
My biggest pet peeve is someone who says "I am almost there" and in fact they are twenty minutes away. Just be honest and the end result is nicer for everyone all the way around.

But truly, it sounds like you are hot and cranky with the heat and a lousy cooling system in your room. This is not her fault. You had a tough day. We have all been there, as well. Just for future reference, when you book your appointments with your girls... if you are pressed for time, you should speak up before you set up the appointment.
And ladies, let's all try to shake a tail feather and be on time :)

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Hi Kate, just to clarify below:

Posted By: Kate Marie
Ladies, 90% of success is showing up. right?
I'll agree with this if you change it to '90% of success is showing up on time'.  

Posted By: Kate Marie
. If you sir were pressed for time, maybe you should have let her know..
No, sorry. You've got it completely backwards now, and this is where problems arise. You're staking out the position that it's unreasonable for me to expect you to be on time.  Here's the deal: just assume that my time is as valuable as your own.  Your client pays you a lot of money for a short period of time.  Be on time.  
Posted By: Kate Marie
 But truly, it sounds like you are hot and cranky with the heat
and a lousy cooling system in your room. This is not her fault.
I never said the hot room was her fault. Even in a perfect room, don't assume your client is happy to sit around when you're 25 minutes late to a one hour appt.  Act like a business woman instead of a high school girl, and you will be treated accordingly.  --z

Showing up late is unprofessional in any occupation.  If there's a legit reason, then that's fine.  However, if she keeps using "stuck in traffic" as the same excuse over and over again, then obviously she either needs to leave earlier to compensate for the traffic, or she's lying.

IMO, anything more than 10 minutes after is late.  If it's 30 minutes late then I will drop the appointment, unless she has been in contact giving me updates and has a legit reason.  Even with a legit reason I would never go past an hour; probably not even 45 minutes.

saying she was going to be late, but the dead silence after she was still not there within the 10 or 15 min. she said she would be. Sounds to me like she might have had another appt. or why could she not answer the phone or text him back when he said "Cancel?"

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Picture of Zangari on his way to the session.  I almost feel sorry for him...

-- Modified on 6/24/2012 10:02:25 PM

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I dont like being made to wait. It gives me the impression that the person I am meeting is irresponsible and doesnt care. That being said 20 to 30 minutes is all I would give a provider, after that I'd leave. Plans should be made taking traffic conditions and possibly other delays and such things into consideration.

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