I am not asking "how much" you make, but how much you need to make. I don't want another thread about IRS bs, so I am more wondering about how much it takes to live in certain areas. For instance, if you live in Manhattan, you might need 2k a week just to pay your bills. whereas in New Orleans, it may only be 2k a month in addition to your other income.
Honestly, if I make 8-1200 a week from "just providing as London Rayne" that's a rap for me. That is not what it takes to "live on" but just from this one avenue of income, I don't need all that much.
I would like to know where you live, and how much it takes you to do so..i.e. monthly expenses. I have a mortgage, incall rents, student loans, car insurance, health insurance, cc payments, and then of course, food, gas, and smokes lol. I would imagine most people are the same with little variation for maybe rent and a car note.
I am not asking for a breakdown of what you have to pay lol, just a general idea. If I wanted to move to Chicago tomorrow, what would I need to make a month to have at least a 3 bedroom home and preferably on the water? How about LA? I would assume at least 500 per hour, at 10 clients a week, if this is your ONLY source of income?
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Because I don't play well with others lol. I never go in there...ever. You guys can use an alias to respond, but as I said, I am NOT asking how much you make. I am asking how much it takes to live in your area per month, and how much of your provider income supports that. That is not admitting how much you make as a provider, but as a whole. One could make 10k from another job.
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Sorry, but this is not something any smart provider would want to brag about on any public board.
Yea, smart providers just brag about bs whilst guys are laughing at them back channel. I did not ask how much a woman actually makes, in case you missed that. If you pay your taxes, you've got nothing to worry about.
Maybe a per diem handbook could help answer many of your questions. That or common sense; if you're in HongKong it's expensive as it gets and if you're in Haiti it isn't . Everywhere else falls in between .
The only prices I deal with whilst "touring" those cities are hotel, flights, and food costs...everything else is a non issue to me. I am just trying to see how a provider in say LA could be charging the same rate as one in Alabama, and still make it.
I know from common sense that LA, D.C. and NYC are very expensive to live in, but I did not go research average monthly mortgages because I would never move there. The only places I have spent time researching were in Georgia and Florida, because I certainly am contemplating a move to one of those states in the next two years.
So, I am not asking only about the cost of living, but how these women survive on providing at a given rate, per area. If ALL I wanted to know was the cost of living, I could certainly find that out. I didn't ask that. I asked what it takes to be a HOOKER in a certain area. One would assume a provider living in LA at a rate of only 300, would either have to have another income or she would be fkin 20 guys a week. In New Orleans, at that same rate, a provider could get by only seeing about 4 clients. That is my point..thanks.
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i have all the regular bills, plus a 47' Sailboat so 2k a week for me. if i wanted a simple life I could get by with 8-1200 a week in this area. Although i have other income and dont pull all my $$ as a provider.
That's what I was getting at. Your area and cost of living determine your rate, and the overall quota you must meet.
your welcome London. yes cost of living and the # of jobs i take. I prefer low volume. i'm still not sure where my # needs to be yet tho. But i'm working on it.
You could have a pretty nice life at those numbers but more like $400 to $500 hour. Especially if you are creative on taxes.
I have a friend in the Carolinas who charges 250, and lives in a huge two story home with a pool, bought a luxury vehicle cash, and only sees about 5 guys a week providing. It is cheaper than Nola to live there.
Sounds like a good reason to move to NC then 
Within 2 blocks of the beach or closer. Nothing fancy but still 2 or 3 bedrooms.
I know you like the water 
Posted By: SonnyNC
Within 2 blocks of the beach or closer. Nothing fancy but still 2 or 3 bedrooms.
I know you like the water
Rents are very high and if you want to be close to the water forget about it. LA is worse. I'm actually taking a client out to look at rentals this morning and I'm thinking $1500 to $2000 per month for a 2 BR apartment. And this is 5 miles from the ocean.
I know in NYC you're looking at 5k for even a one bedroom apt. and it's less than 1000 sq. feet. In Nola, you can live it up for cheap bwahahhaa. We like our swamp!
Cleveland under 1000 for 2-3 BR Loft Apt downtown but there is very litle waterfront rental property and it is freakin' cold here. Lakefront real estate east and west of town is expensive and it is just Lake Erie
So, a woman living in Cleveland could see maybe 3-5 guys a week and live really well, but one in D.C. at that rate would have to see double or triple that amount, if she did not have another income.
I think DC area is more like $2100 a week if you want easy living. so 7 jobs a week at $300. you could get by with 3-5
Interesting thread on many levels. LR, I suppose it boils down to "where do you want to live and how many guys do you want to see on a weekly basis to enable you to live there?" A condo on Newport beach would be pretty awesome but....
Two, As a guy I'm a little jealous of the possibilities..
for less than 3k a month. That is a mortgage, not rent, and that's at least 2500 sq. feet. You can rent waterfront, for about 1200, with the same access. We are not talking the Bayou either lol. Our most expensive areas are the Garden District, Warehouse, and French Quarter. You actually save over a grand by moving to the lake, which is exactly what I did ha ha.
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and hurricanes, bugs and ungodly heat and humidity
I'd say Milwaukee is similar to yours LR as far as needs with some extras to live nicely. Don't have to see many to get to that point... Can truly be low, low volume in my area and still do well (if one choses that path). Plus, easy to visit Chicago for more and just head back home (easy commute).
I go down to Kentucky often and you could live nicely down there... 3 bedroom houses rent there for under 650$ and almost everything is cheaper there compared with other cities. It is as if your money doubles living there, for what you can get etc.
Why, you trying to relocate or just curious? Will there be a LR sighting in my town? lol.
I am actually looking to move to Florida in the next two years, but I doubt I will still be "London Rayne" when that happens. 
I just find some of the posts humorous with the attacks on women, who really do NOT have to work much, because of where they live. As if being low volume, is suddenly a BAD thing lol.
I don't think some realize how little money one can need from providing, if they have another income or live in a place with a low cost of living. Florida (especially North Florida) is about the same cost of living on the beach, as what you pay to live on the water here. That is appealing to me in more ways than one, but I noticed the provider rates are also lower, which does NOT appeal to me.
(just kidding)
... and Southern Florida will cost you up the butt. I'd love to live in Boca Raton, but it is expensive, may even be worse than CA and NYC! Sometimes you can live in one city (that you get excellent value for) and work in a bigger, nearby city (that has higher rates). Best of both worlds. In fact I will be doing that shortly (1st time "visiting", decided to try touring). You think Kentucky is cheap- Upper Michigan is even cheaper than that, but good luck with work (let alone basement level rates).
That's my home state (FL), and I lived in KY for several years. She's correct about real estate, it is, outside of Louisville, very reasonable.
Reasons to move to Louisville: You love fishing for carp, people from Ohio, and ice storms.
In Florida, my home that I have watched deteriorate over the years:
Areas to avoid: Anywhere there is a douchebag with a sunburn and a University of Michigan shirt.
Anywhere that there are multiple elderly diners in a Cadillac at 4:00 heading for the early bird to use an out of date coupon- and driving 26 MPH.
If you can find the oases of sanity amongst all of that, congrats, you've arrived. Say hello to me either at St. Augustine/Crescent Beach or Fernandina, both of which are my selected locations for the second half of my life. I grew up in the Keys, but I'll never return to live because it's too close to the armpit that I call Miami.
Oh, and my incall rate will be reasonable for friends I've met before ( I provide light housework while shirtless. You're welcome in advance, LR).
Yea, it's redneck, but so is Nola lol.
You're such a 'neck, but a 'neck with a killer rack.
Posted By: London Rayne
Yea, it's redneck, but so is Nola lol.
added up too 2,100.oo a month, which includes: cable, internet , landline and work cell, and electric.
That is not factoring in ter membership, dc memebrship , p 411 membership, maintenence{waxing , nails , ect} or food or student loan payments. . That just my rent n utilites n phone cost per month, I am in Boston. I dont think of what I need to make a week i just work n then live off what i made til i run out, then work again once I run out .
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a mortgage and utilities, but my sugar daddy, helps out ha ha.
would be far more predictive than a random answer by some gal living in another city and you know NOTHING of her life style.... She a student, likes a house as opposed to an apartment, does she have a kid, a low-life SO? what kind of car does she drive - what are the insurance rates, (remember in Manhatten, a car may not fit your needs).
Really go to other sites for this kind of financial info. To quote a sage advisor on this board... GOOGLE it.
Yes, but I am in fact asking about the provider's lifestyle. If she rents or owns, does she have a car note, kid in private school, etc. I don't need an exact dollar amount, as I would never ask that type of question knowing the risks, but just a general idea of a provider's lifestyle, and what she can afford working as a provider in her area. Not being nosy, just writing a book bwahhahaa.
LR,
I live alone and don't have kids or pets to consider. My time is split between Atlanta, Florida and NYC. My website list Atlanta and NY as my base cities, but also I have a civvie business in Florida. Most of my appointments are extended engagements (unless I'm touring). Off the top of my head, I like to clear 7-10K a month from providing alone.
your description reminds me very much of a lady I saw for a time - she too had other businesses, and was very attractive. We had much in common - alas twas I who ended the liaisons... which were fun -
I tour Philly from time to time. Just due to the nature of my civvie business, its hard for me to disappear a week or two and tour. I'm working on a few things and it should free up a lot of my civvie time this spring.
You are hilarious! Thanks doll. I love NOLA! I was just there for the Super Bowl. I gave up booze for Lent. Perhaps I could arrange a visit after Easter. ; )
Stay righteous!
I would be more than happy to "hook you up" when you're in town, as well. Obviously, I don't work much lol. I have admired your figure for some time now...nice!!
Guilty as charged. Lol. I just like giving up something for 40 days every year. Last year it was bread.
The cost of living there is staggering. My cheapest rent was 2000/mo, most expensive over 4k/month. Getting around was a huge expense. Taking advantage of the city's opportunities (cultural, nightlife, educational, culinary) even more $$. I always had my hair and nails done professionally in those days, too (for escorting, not because I really wanted it). But my SLOWEST *week* as an independent was 2500, so the investment was worth it.
I'm no longer living in NYC, so my expenses are low. I could pay all of my bills, save $, and still have some extra left over with 2500/month. That's pretty easily covered by my other work...so I don't really need the escorting money, as far as my basic expenses go. But I take classes, have my car serviced by the dealer, eat organic, and go skiing. I have several hobbies. I donate to charities and tip generously at local establishments. I care for a pet. Most importantly, I invest in my business AND I save. All of those things I can probably do without, except the last two. $500-1000/wk probably covers all of those things. I don't really have a budget...I do what I can with what I have. If I only make $1000 from escorting in January, I'm probably not thinking about a trip to Florida. A really good streak will put ideas into my head, lol.
anything over there. I remember in 2005 just running an agency, I made more money than I do now and my bills were a third less. Now, my money is a third less and my bills are 3 times higher lol.
I drive a used car that I paid cash for, and I my home is a very small studio apartment ($450 per month, including utilities), even though I could definitely afford much more. I spend way more on hotels (a tax deductible expense) than I do on rent. I pay cash for almost everything, except hotels, which I put on my credit card, and I pay off my credit card every month. I'd rather spend my money on experiences than living expenses. This weekend I'll be taking a hot air balloon trip. That is a much better use of my money than rent or a new car.
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I remember you saying that before, and that's the ticket girl. I've always been pretty spoiled and admit for 10 years, I literally "blew" through a lot of money, but once you have a child, that changes. Now, I would never piss away a grand on a pair of shoes (will take them as a gift lol) or a new handbag. If you don't OWN your home, you have no business leasing a damn car you can't afford to buy cash lol. That is ghetto rich, and I can see the 18-25 crowd doing it, but that won't last forever if you have no education to back you up. Dummies.
Good points LR. This is why I started a business three years ago in Florida. I'm in my mid 30's now and don't plan on being in the biz until I'm 65. I save my provider money every month and live off of my civvie business. This is why I don't tour 2-3 weeks at a time. It feels good to be virtually debt free.
I am actually contemplating going back to school again (just the min. of 12 hours to be considered full time) so I can buy myself another 3 years of those loans being deferred. Hopefully, at the end of that 3 years I bought, I will be making enough money at a professional job, providing on the side, or not at all, to be able to pay that back and still live comfortably. This is why so many providers rent. vs. having a mortgage...the govt. can actually seize your home if you can't pay back those student loans. YIKES! Luckily, that's not gonna happen to me, because I have a lien on everything already ha ha. I look totally broke and dependent.
