pictures say a thousand words...for those of you that don't think these things can be spread orally please take not of the pictures that prove otherwise...

Ginger, it's not that people think it can't be spread, they just think it won't happen to them, or the risk is low.

Ginger, Are you fully aware that the "willies" sites and info are based on information from British people's research, their perspectives and moral attitudes that to say the least are pretty warped?  I know because I used to live there.  Do you really think there are providers around who, when they see weeping sores, white lumps, red swollen tissue, and unusually colored discharge anywhere in a hobbyists genital area, are stupid enough to just ignore it?  This is a great example of "don't believe everything you read on the internet, especially if it originates in the UK."

Happy Hobbying to All

... nobody would ever catch an STD.  Problem is, they don't look this bad for quite some time.  In fact, you can be infected (and infectuous) for days, weeks, sometimes months, before anything becomes noticeable.  Then there's AIDS...

That's why countless millions on this planet are infected with mild to major STD's.  Their partner looked "clean" AT THE TIME, so safety wasn't "necessary."

And no, I'm not English.


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What diseases can be spread orally? Most of them can be cured by antibiotics. Aids? Very unlikely.. Not one documented case of it being transmitted orally. Aids is transmitted through the blood. Virus cannot survive outside the human body. If you have open sores in either the mouth or penis, or Vagina, and one of the partners are infected, then there is a risk.

Herpes is another matter. Same with Heptitis C which to me is really the most frightening because that can be spread by other means as well..

For my own part, I don't see the risks of oral sex high..

Mr. serious,
I do not believe in everything i read and or see. I just thought these ics were interesting and es[eically the ones showing oral transmission...since there are so many here that are arguing about that. Perhaps sick willies site is british but i have also taken a human sexuality course in an american college with an american text book based with a section on STD's based on research and info gathered by U.S. studies and yes they had pictures of the same genre there. Sores are not always obvious and the virus for warts HPV can be present on someone with out there being any obvious signs,,,also the warts can be very small and obscured by pubic hair, they can also cause cancer in women and can kill us...men rarely have any major problems associated with them....the person they infect may not react so mildly to the virus. In fact and i have put these examples up before, I have had several friends infected with both warts and herpes by partners that did not appear to be infected at all.

The outbreaks that they themselves had were far more severe than their partners and one of my friends even broke out on her hands and other places over her entire body...she got this from her husband who never appeared to have a lesion. after she contracted it from him she came to find out that he knew he had it but his outbreaks were so slight he thought it wouldn't be a big deal to her.

If it makes you feel better serious to believe things are the way you see them then good for you. Validation as I have stated before is a strict mistress and one that is obeyed my many... I just prefer to see the whole picture without trying to justify my actions.

To be honest, I think it's difficult to know the transmission rates of any of these diseases for particular activities... I mean to really get a ballpark idea, researchers would need to isolate sexual partners and OBSERVE their sexual activities for an extended period of time, and test the results. To ASK someone... "So how did you catch this?" Well, IMO, that's useless...odds are they won't KNOW, for many of the reasons you describe.  And even if they DO know, maybe they will lie for many many various reasons... really one of the first things that needs to happen to battle these diseases is heightened awareness and acceptance and a dropping of all the taboos associated with SEX in general.  

I am not arguing with you... but I will say that shoving scary pics under anyone's nose is a silly form of argument to my mind. I can find scary pics of all kinds of things, including getting hit by a bus if I cross the street... that doesn't mean I won't ever cross the street again. We each determine our own risk levels and what we are comfortable with... I just hope that everyone does all the research to make whatever decision is right for them.

Personally I love sex, and I revel in my sexuality, and that is hard to do wearing a body rubber. I keep myself as safe as I can while being reasonable about enjoying myself and my life. But wouldn't it be great if a bit more effort went into finding vaccines for these diseases, vs. all the effort that goes into lecturing people on how "bad" they are for enjoying sex?

Hugs*
Nicole

I hate to repeat myself but one of my friends has herpes all over her face that has caused scars...she was hospitalized when she had her first outbreak because it was so severe she could barely swallow...she was put on a morphine drip and she got it sucking her boyfriends dick...another contracted herpes on her twat from a guy eating her out...he did however have obvious cold sores...she was just ignorant. None of these women were providers and had very few sexual partners. There is several photos there of orally transmitted herpes including the strain that most typically is contracted on the genitalia. There are also pictures of orally transmitted warts...there are no cures for these. Not to mention the ones that can be cured are also transmitted orally...try explaining to your SO why she has a case of gonorrhea because you gave it to her orally before you had obvious syptoms...Oral transmision become such a problem in military men coming back from leave that the DOD added another section to their 'safe sex manual" dealing with it.

Nicole,

Is letting a man that you do not know, cum in your mouth safe?
What is the risk. What made you decide that it was an acceptable risk. Please don't misunderstand me. I am not judging here. Hell I don't even know if you do that. I think the point being made by this other poster is that we should not delude ourselves into thinking that uncovered oral sex is without risks.  My concern is how significant?  I enjoy Oral sex both ends. I can't imagine doing this covered.